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HAHAHA, Dougster thinks he has rights...how cute.The "Bush-Cheney" gang is no worse then most other politicians...it always seems that I am voting for the lesser of two evils, so does it really matter who's in office?

The more countries we bomb, the more governments we overturn, the more the rest of the world's population fears us....GO USA

Sorry MV I didn't know our casualties were so low...I was in 4th grade during that war...all I remember are that they made Topps trading cards out of the war.


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Originally posted by Dougster "]Interesting response...For someone who has their head in the sand.

Don't pick on the man's heritage! Oh wait... you were calling him ignorant... I see. He may live in the desert, but I'm pretty sure the sand is in his shorts... and it's irritating... and its name is Doug.

My point is, don't be a sheep,

Amen.... don't be a sheep... believe what you read in the internet tabloids... and ignore reality. Heaven forbid you get accused of having an INFORMED opinion. :rolleyes

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Sorry, but I think you have swallowed much too much propaganda for one lifetime...Research the subject...Actually the Bush family is the most corrupt in the history of US so-called presidents...Maybe you knew Bush crook #1 started a illegal war and IMPORTED OVER 200 Tons of cocaine into the US? Have you read the Bush Biography? Maybe you just listen to Arie Flesher? Or you could just put your head back in the sand...But don't actually sound like you have a valid or informed comment...Fight for freedom, fight for the truth, because those over 3,000 people Bush let die sure can't.

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Apexi: Why even make a post when you just proved you know NOTHING about the topic???

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Is this about gas prices, or the Bush family? You act like they are the only corrupt family that ever graced the oval office...WAKE UP THIS IS AMERICA, WE THRIVE ON CORRUPTION!

Why are there so many commercials about weed and none about not using cocaine? Personally I believe that the government benefits some way in the importation and illegal sale of cocaine, but that is just a personal, unfounded, belief. But anyway Dougster, what Bush biography....you couldn't be any more vague. You should really stop reading all those political articles in High Times.

But the bottom line is that Bush did not raise prices on oil, the marketplace did. Blame our nutty economy.

I said I didn't know anything about the amount of casualties in the Gulf war. Please read:rolleyes. So how did I prove that??? MV said the casualties were at about 600, then you talk about Bush killing 3,000....who's right? Pick a number.

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Dougster wrote:As for your National Enquirer comment, I take it you have read all its contents? If not, please don't make silly comments until you have. It sounds like you have much to read up on.


No problem, Dougie. I'll read your ragsheet internet tabloid about how the moon landings were faked and George Bush is a Roswell-bred test-tube mutant...

...as soon as you take in the amount of journalism that I do: I'll get you started, as I typically read the following cover-to-cover daily/weekly/monthly depending on the publication:US News&World ReportUSA TodayThe WSJ (skimming the business and tech sections)TIMENewsweekGoverning (a periodical for us bureaucrat basturds)Esquire (thanks, Mom, but I'm not an attorney)Perspectives (a national mag for CJ professionals)Internal Auditor (thank God it only comes quarterly - BORING)New Times (local liberally-slanted antiestablishment ragsheet - but it's free).

There you are - Happy reading! Let me know if you learn anything - I'll be on ww.whatreallyhappened.com checking out "The Moon Really IS made of Cheese!" and "The Government Cloned Me - With My Own Urine Sample" - on your recommendation, of course.

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Yes, its really all a joke I see AZhitman...Only the joke is on "We the people" of America...Really I expected some rational thought from you.Why even make a silly comment until you have read anything that site has?I do take in some of those pubs you mention, but you might want to understand who owns them and why they pull strings in the way they do. Be open to LEARNING! The truth is out there for people who care enough about Freedom to look for it. Don't be a sheep, act in a positive way, for the good of all people...Not the ultra powerful & rich, wishing to take even more freedoms & money from "We the people" Apexi: Its about BOTH, the Bush family has always been about stealing & murder, both were proud members of the ultra secret Skull & Bones...The over 3,000 dead I mentioned were the ones murdered on 9/11, Read the time events of what happened just before and see if you think Bush knew what was going to happen & why he LET IT happen...Then decide for yourself. I know we have NEVER had this much corruption & greed, well at least since Bush crook #1...Greed, the root of all evil!

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Guess what, I read a lot about how we allowed the events of 9/11 to happen. I realize that we invaded Afghanistan to construct oil lines for Russia. I realize that we warned them in August or earlier that we were going to invade. My point is that YOU AND I CAN DO NOTHING. Dozens of countries protesting this war will not stop it...do you think me and you reading about the cocaine industry will do anything?

Just be happy you live in the richest country in the world, that you aren't poor and don't have to suffer like others do. At least be glad we have a government that believes in human rights towards its citizens. Be happy we horde resources like a fat man hides twinkies.

The US props up and takes down governments at its will, without the average Joe not knowing about jack...but this is irrelevant, the gas price will go down once we start killing people.

Oh yeah, and what is so bad about having let everyone die is the WTC bombings? It gave the US a reality check, it brought the savageness of the rest of the world to our doorstep. It is also a means of population control...oh yeah, don't even give me that crap about letting people die or how it affected their families, I'm 15 mins outside of NYC and my friend's lost parents, siblings, friends, ect.

Saddam is bad, worse than the Bush family...I hope they kill him, his two sons, and all the military heads...

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Dougster, George Sr. was head of the CIA for several years, which is not exactly the boy scouts. So it should come as no surprise he has skeletons in his closet. Unfortunately, due to the current polilitical climate and incredibly ambitious press, the best candidates never run for office, leaving us to decide between less desireable candidates. Too bad Pat Paulson is gone, we could use him now..

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Quite true Bubba, MY point will always be however, we must fight for our own freedoms. As they are being taken away more so every day! The so called propaganda Patriot act takes away freedoms while giving Corrupt Bush even more power. They have another so called security bill coming up designed to take even more freedoms! Big brother is here and its the American peoples worst nightmare. Thats why its vital that the truth get out, we must stop the corruption and the robbing of freedoms from "We the people"Apexi: Sorry, I will never just let it ride that people were allowed to die, just like on Pearl Harbor...I will always fight the good fight, for truth & freedom! If you however are happy living with your head in the sand...Thats all on you...

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Originally posted by Dougster "]I do take in some of those pubs you mention, but you might want to understand who owns them and why they pull strings in the way they do.

Hahahaa... and the intelligent people behind your 'source' have no agenda, right!

Be open to LEARNING! The truth is out there for people who care enough about Freedom to look for it.

All this crap you spew forth about your freedom being taken away by the Bush family and the conservative party... the people who wish to put more control back in YOUR hands... what are you thinking. You have obviously fallen prey just as they hoped you would have.

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Quote »No problem, Dougie. I'll read your ragsheet internet tabloid about how the moon landings were faked and George Bush is a Roswell-bred test-tube mutant...

...as soon as you take in the amount of journalism that I do: I'll get you started, as I typically read the following cover-to-cover daily/weekly/monthly depending on the publication:US News&World ReportUSA TodayThe WSJ (skimming the business and tech sections)TIMENewsweekGoverning (a periodical for us bureaucrat basturds)Esquire (thanks, Mom, but I'm not an attorney)Perspectives (a national mag for CJ professionals)Internal Auditor (thank God it only comes quarterly - BORING)New Times (local liberally-slanted antiestablishment ragsheet - but it's free).[/quote]Aside from the ommission of "Easy Rider", anyone notice a theme in AZ's reading list?

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VimyJ wrote:Aside from the ommission of "Easy Rider", anyone notice a theme in AZ's reading list?


I'm going to assume you mean it's somewhat "right-handed". If so, I'd think Esq and the New Times would MORE than balance that out.

Other than that, I can't imagine what you'd be alluding to. Probably some top-secret thing I'd only know if I read "what really happened".

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[quote=" AZhitman

There you are - Happy reading! Let me know if you learn anything - I'll be on ww.whatreallyhappened.com checking out "The Moon Really IS made of Cheese!" [/quote]

Totally off subject, but the mormon bible used to actually say that.

I still think the best news source on the web is http://www.theonion.com Did you know that Willy Wonka has a secret choclate program? And North Dakota has a nuclear weapons program.... all this is going on right in our own backyards. Why don't you stop watching the X-files long enough to go out and protect us from this.

Because we're all obviously far less informed than you are, or maybe we're all "one of them" you better run before Bill Gates trys to steal your brain!

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AZhitman wrote:I'm going to assume you mean it's somewhat "right-handed". If so, I'd think Esq and the New Times would MORE than balance that out.

Other than that, I can't imagine what you'd be alluding to. Probably some top-secret thing I'd only know if I read "what really happened".


Your bibliography is entirely domestic and therefore, by definition, provincial (regional). I previously extolled the benefits of thinking outside the box. I'm assuming that you do access other media outlets such as the BBC, CBC, etc. for English language foreign content. "Know thy enemy." It's the reason I listen to Dimbulb from time to time.;)

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The markets are down, down, down. Crude and NG are up, up, up. Loonie up, up, up. Greenback, down, down, down. Euro, up, up, up. Temps here, down, down, down. Heat bill up, up, up. W's popularity, down, down, down. Outlook for standard of living in the US down, down, down. Living in a place where all the cuties are wearing bikinis up, up, up. ;)

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Movingviolation240 wrote:Totally off subject, but the mormon bible used to actually say that.


There is no such thing as a Mormon Bible. It is called The Book of Mormon and is not a bible at all. It is another testament of Christ. I have read it and there are no references to the moon being made of cheese or anything else for that matter. Please be better informed before posting such nonsense.

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It did, book of momron I know this, we spent the better part of a year studying it.

Since it was written there have been several changes to it, black people are no longer considered evil and cast out of hell, the moon isn't made of cheese anymore, polygamy isn't in vogue anymore, ect. This isn't the place to go into great detail about it all, but unlike our freind here I actually know what I'm talking about when it comes to this.

I'm part of the "evil" right wing christian movement..... it's my job to know these things.

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...AND, truth be told, it's not even another testament of Christ, but Bionic's being politically correct. I have read it as well, and agree with Bionic's admonition. Sorry MV, but that's how fights get started.

Otherwise, your post was spot-on.:D

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I'm not trying to start a fight (well maybe just a little bit) but mearly trying to make a point. I've come up with some really interesting sites on Google, but just out of respect and to keep the fires down I'll just not post them.

anyhow, back to the hippie bashing.....

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LOL - I think we can both agree on where that'd go -

Yes, by all means, let's resume picking on Mr. Mulder (or is it Scully?)

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AZhitman wrote:Yes, by all means, let's resume picking on Mr. Mulder (or is it Scully?)


I'm more like the "Smoking Man".:smoker :D (He's Canadian,BTW)

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Don't flatter yourself, Vim. I was referring to Dougie. :D

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What I don't understand is where were all the protesters when Clinton bombed Iraq back in '98?

And how come they didn't say anything when Clinton sent troops (who are still there by the way) to Bosnia?

And how come you guys didn't want to be human sheilds when Clinton sent troops to Haiti?:confused:

And if this upcoming war is just a oil grab? Why didn't the U.S. just take the Iraqi oil fields back in '91?

Is it me, or is there some hypocrisy here?

Maybe you guys should have protested when Hussein gassed the Kurds?

Maybe you guys should have protested when Hussein started a 10 year war with Iran?

Or maybe you guys should have protested when Hussein first violated the ORIGINAL UN charter that he agreed to at the end of Desert Storm?

Ah hell, what do I know?:rolleyes

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There was a great thing on FOX NEWS lastnight with clinton saying "there are many country's with weapons of mass distruction, but the difference is Sadam has used them"

Billy Bob said that way back in '98 and people loved him for it. Now that GW is trying to fix clinton's 'slap on the wrist' policy mistakes everybody is up in arms against it.

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Gosh, I guess the big Dif is Bush allowed 9/11 to happen in much the same way FDR alowed Pearl Harbor to happen to further his political agenda...Who cares who gets killed along the way...As long as he rapes the Consitution along the way taking freedoms while the ultra rich get richer & more powerful still...Sub" You do know Cheney's company jumped in line to do business with Iraq after 91 Bush's Oil war don't you? & that they lead the world in human rights violations.His company also was frustrated with negotiations with the Taliban, so they planned the war in Afghanistan BEFORE 9/11 but needed a attack on American's to justify a "terror war" for the NG pipelines they will be putting there...The CIA also makes a ton of money from the sale of opium & Cocaine sales and the Talibon had pretty much stopped opium growing there. The CIA needs their drugs sales now! Bush crook #1 has long been a big help in selling illegal drugs here in the good ole US of A! (See Iran/Contra) Maine: Its really not a conservative issue when they take away freedoms (The so called Patriot act) is it? Its an American "WE the people" issue...If thats ok for you to see innocent people allowed to die while our freedoms are taken away then I feel quite sorry for you...Don't be a sheep, do something positive, fight for freedom, fight for justice, fight for those over 3,000 people who no longer have a voice...

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I'm not even gonna respond after that load of crap...

FDR responsible for Pearl Harbor... Bush responsible for the 9/11 murders.... Iraq leads the world in human rights violations.... the CIA are simply a drug cartel....

Somebody else have at it - The delusions will persist until the boy gets back on his meds.

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AZhitman wrote:I'm not even gonna respond after that load of crap...Somebody else have at it - The delusions will persist until the boy gets back on his meds.


Waste of anyone's time... he's too far gone.

If by meds you mean a full frontal lobotomy... then yes... that should do the trick! Or perhaps that's what started his problems. Doug... did you ever spend any time in an insane asylum in the 50's?

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dude, just say "the truth is out there" once for me.... please?

Is Elvis the person helping **** Chenney run the world marketplace? And I supose Bin Laden is the lovechild of Adolf Hittler and Maralin Manroe? Hittler was a holgram, the holicost was made up, and the world is flat..... I've heard it all......

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Quote »Sub" You do know Cheney's company jumped in line to do business with Iraq after 91 Bush's Oil war don't you? & that they lead the world in human rights violations.His company also was frustrated with negotiations with the Taliban...[/quote]I guess he couldn't answer my questions?:rolleyes


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