SRT - 4 (Last Night)

[Jacko3]

On my merry good trip from Walmart, I was behind an small ugly looking car with some huge wings behind it. The guy took off normally while I followed. As I accelerated, i was surprised that car was also accelerating and suddenly I heard this awesome sound of turbo. My G-35 could not keep up as his turbo was just giving me a lot of gap.

But he seemed to have a good bit of a turbo lag. The G-35 was quicker off the lot but ran out of breathe especially when the guys turbo kicked in. So, I magine how silly the dodge SRT-4 would be if I had a S/C. In addition, the dodge SRT- 4 is much lighter.

Remember, this is a straightline movement, which the G-35 Coupe was bound to loose. The story would have been different on curves and tight turns.

He eventually stopped at a traffic light and I asked him what was under the hood. He said he had a stage one single turbo, and his car was a dodge SRT-4. I was impressed. But the guy also was honest and he said, he wished he had a G-35 Coupe. This made me feel good.

Moral of story: Without a turbo charger or Twin turbo, a dodge SRT-4 is a formidable little ride. However, every SRT-4 owner wished they had the slower G-35 Coupe. I cannot say it enough, every G-35 Coupe owner should save up for Twin Turbo or a Supercharger. Our cars a re plenty capable than what Infiniti has made us to beleive, especially knowing that the VQ35DE engine is extremely reliable.


Modified by Jacko3 at 11:33 AM 4/20/2008

[joe603]

There a many cars that are cheaper and faster than the G35...but I wouldn't want any of them! Just know that even with FI, there's ALWAYS someone faster

[TeflonG35]

I'm 6'3 210 LBS. No way am i fitting in some neon.

[infinitgkid]

I'm 6'3 210 LBS. No way am i fitting in some neon.

lol thats a good way of looking at things...

[WhiteyClay]

Can a Srt-4 do 13.8 on a 1/4mile?if not then Fuc* srt-4.i ran my g on track and did 13.8....0-60 in 5.1 secgot some mods tho

[Rivalry]

Always an in-depth play-by-play race post, and always insisting on what others should purchase with their cash.

We all sit in the tremendous shadow that is Jacko.

[smockers83]

I hope you had a good reason to go to Wal Mart to begin with. I hate that store.

[etschell]

the srt-4 is faster than a g by far. it is the sickest speed for your buck car out IMO. seriously you can get one for 13k on ebay with miles.

[zozoka1212]

srt-4 goes 0-60 in 5.4 if I am not mistaken.

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[Beancooker]

Moved from G35.

[HashiriyaS14]

Remember, this is a straightline movement, which the G-35 Coupe was bound to loose. The story would have been different on curves and tight turns.

That's not necessarily true. SRT-4's are considerably lighter than G35's and can be made to handle astonishingly well with the right modifications. Honestly, on twisties, I bet he'd have whupped you assuming you're both equal drivers.

[Mr1der]

ugh...

this shouldn't have been moved anywhere but the moved threads forum.

[Sentientbydesign]

Can a Srt-4 do 13.8 on a 1/4mile?if not then Fuc* srt-4.i ran my g on track and did 13.8....0-60 in 5.1 secgot some mods tho

Yes, actually. Check out dragtimes.com. 13.6 looks to be about where mods are necessary.

There are plenty 10-11 second SRT-4s on there.

Why did this get moved?

[ACoupe]

A fast POS is still just a POS.It could do 0-60 in 2.8 seconds and I'd still rather own what I own.You get to a certain age and realize there is always someone faster out there, and I've said it a million times, anything can be made to go fast, even a sofa with wheels.

Don't get me wrong, I love a quick ride, but I'd rather have an upscale, well built and engineered car, that has a nice touch of speed, than a little tin ****box that can beat me at the lights.

The new 2 door Cobalt SS has some impressive numbers too, especially at the Nürburgring.

[Sentientbydesign]

Don't get me wrong, I love a quick ride, but I'd rather have an upscale, well built and engineered car, that has a nice touch of speed, than a little tin ****box that can beat me at the lights.

I agree, but that's no excuse for a heavy car. Once my carbon fiber and grouding kit projects are done, I'm going to start dissasembling my coupe and weighing parts to find out what needs to be replaced.

I know it's a pipe dream, but a 3000lb coupe sounds awesome (and yes, a diet is in my plan too, but the most I can lose is 30-35lbs without looking scary).

[Jacko3]

HasiriyiS14:

Hahahaha!! I laugh at those mysterious words you have written.

With my Toyo Proxes T1R, an SRT that moves fast, but seems like it is going to fall apart, will not make it. I am talking about multiple twists and turns. My G already comes standard with the suspension to perform. teh SRT wil need multiple and expensive suspension modifications to do what my G-35 does right now. And when that happens, it would add weight to the car, and thus eliminate any advantaghe it already has.

Again, I laugh, hahahahah!!!

[Sentientbydesign]

HasiriyiS14:

Hahahaha!! I laugh at those mysterious words you have written.

With my Toyo Proxes T1R, an SRT that moves fast, but seems like it is going to fall apart, will not make it. I am talking about multiple twists and turns. My G already comes standard with the suspension to perform. teh SRT wil need multiple and expensive suspension modifications to do what my G-35 does right now. And when that happens, it would add weight to the car, and thus eliminate any advantaghe it already has.

Again, I laugh, hahahahah!!!

No offense, but you're out of your realm Jacko. The Neon SRT-4 weighs just under 3000lbs. Coilover suspension should be less than a grand and also save weight.

One of the advantages of a wrong wheeled drive, light weight vehicle is it's ability to fix dumb mistakes. That's not quite as easy with the extra weight/mass of the G and RWD...unless you're an experienced drifter that is.

[Jacko3]

Sentient:

While there maybe some truth to what you said, looking at the dodge neon and how high the car is raised from the ground, would suggest that the design may not necessarily have been geared towards twisty roads. It seem more like a drag car than anything else. And then, why do automakers make the mistakes they make? Is it really a mistake or are their actions driven by cost?

[brizanden]

the moral of the story is simply its a neon. give it much more power and somethins gonna break. yes they are fast for the money but they are unrealiable and overall a ugly azz neon.

[Sentientbydesign]

I think a lot of it has to do with American's need to be unique.

There are plenty high-performance cars out there, but I'd be bored with a Lambo or Ferrari (although they do look very hawt).

The prospect of making improvements is great. I don't however, like that Infiniti could have saved weight in a lot of areas and smoothed out the intake/exhaust.

[Jacko3]

Sentient:

I have the same questions too for Infiniti. Anyway, do you know that the Toyota prius, will flog our G-35 and the Dodge Neon SRT-4 combined on a 0-60 run?

The sippy gas 2008 Prius has about 295lb/ft of torque. I became curious recently because I saw a prius owner flog their car the other day, and I was surprised at its sudden quickness. And it barely has 192 horsepower. But it is extremely good on gas.

[CYO44Baseball32]

Neon will always be a neon

[TeflonG35]

I can't drive down a road without seeing a broken down neon....

[brizanden]

^agreed i lmao the other day when a girl was like wht do u drive (on the phone) and i was like oh u wouldnt know and she was like try me. i said a 240sx and she said oh i know those they look cool, one of the newer ones right? and i was like yeah then i texted her some real quick things about my kouk. then she responded with oh well i dont know much about them im more into racing cars like srt4's and evo's. i about started crying i laughed so hard.

[TeflonG35]

was she blonde?

[CYO44Baseball32]

^agreed i lmao the other day when a girl was like wht do u drive (on the phone) and i was like oh u wouldnt know and she was like try me. i said a 240sx and she said oh i know those they look cool, one of the newer ones right? and i was like yeah then i texted her some real quick things about my kouk. then she responded with oh well i dont know much about them im more into racing cars like srt4's and evo's. i about started crying i laughed so hard.

[brizanden]

was she blonde?

yes very here is a picand as u can tell she is hot so i forgave her.

[Minmey15]

Sentient:

While there maybe some truth to what you said, looking at the dodge neon and how high the car is raised from the ground, would suggest that the design may not necessarily have been geared towards twisty roads. It seem more like a drag car than anything else. And then, why do automakers make the mistakes they make? Is it really a mistake or are their actions driven by cost?

And how heavy your coupe is, would suggest that it is geared toward highway cruise. Why can't you see that? Do you know what really was made for twisty road?? Try Silvia!! Nissan engineers even studied drifting when they developed S15. And from S14 to S15, its size went down. Do you have any idea why?? On twisty, especially downhill, weight means alot. I love my car, but I could drive a Miata faster than my G35 on downhill.

Your V35 coupe is made for highway comfortable cruise. Of course, if the driver you are racing don't know what he or she is doing, then you could beat him or her on twisty road, but your V35 was definitely not made for twisty. There are other cars that are alot more suitable for twisty than V35 coupe and 350Z like you claim.

My 08 V36 sedan 6MT is my second Skyline. My first Skyline was R32, and I love them both. Every day, when I get in my car, I get excited. It is comfortable, powerful, and fun to drive. But is it race car for twisty rod or track use? I have to say no. It is god enough to have fun or beat most of people on the road IF you know what you are doing. But then again, if you are a race car driver, I am sure you could beat anyone driving a Corolla.

"To get to your desitination comfortable and fast."

That was the first Skyline's concept, and I feel like G35 is just that. And I read an interview with the chief engineer who test drove the V36 Skyline and said

"I feel like old Skyline is back!"

[Kenrik]

Jacko, the G35 is Ok as cars go, but nowhere near the best in the turns (it's so dam heavy) also it's kind of slow in the top end.

Where the G35 shines is it's high speed stability.. how many cars can you bring upto 150+MPH and not feel like you're going to **** your pants or have the car fall apart around you? The list is a lot smaller then the list of cars that are faster then the G.

140mph feels very benign..

Also the G35 is very stable and predictable when drifting. it is very different from my 240Sx (2600 lbs +/-) that likes to snap around rather quickly if you're too aggressive.

I personally think that the G needs to loose 400lbs and gain 150 WHP to be considered as anything more then a semi fast Luxury coupe.

Heck my 240sx with 250Whp is faster then my G35.. but would I take it upto 150MPH? hell no.. it starts to scare me at 100mph..

So as was said above... it's a highway car, plain and simple.

References:

drifting my 240sxhttp://videos.streetfire.net/v...1.htm

my 240sx now (Sr20det Turbo)http://youtube.com/watch?v=uCjTzmkzeew

[Sentientbydesign]

Jacko, the G35 is Ok as cars go, but nowhere near the best in the turns (it's so dam heavy) also it's kind of slow in the top end.

Where the G35 shines is it's high speed stability.. how many cars can you bring upto 150+MPH and not feel like you're going to **** your pants or have the car fall apart around you? The list is a lot smaller then the list of cars that are faster then the G.

140mph feels very benign..

Also the G35 is very stable and predictable when drifting. it is very different from my 240Sx (2600 lbs +/-) that likes to snap around rather quickly if you're too aggressive.

I personally think that the G needs to loose 400lbs and gain 150 WHP to be considered as anything more then a semi fast Luxury coupe.

Heck my 240sx with 250Whp is faster then my G35.. but would I take it upto 150MPH? hell no.. it starts to scare me at 100mph..

So as was said above... it's a highway car, plain and simple.

References:

drifting my 240sxhttp://videos.streetfire.net/v...1.htm

my 240sx now (Sr20det Turbo)http://youtube.com/watch?v=uCjTzmkzeew

Very well said. I think 200lbs is doable without tearing up the car, but dropping 400lbs and adding 150WHP won't happen, especially since the FI would add weight.