SRT - 4 (Last Night)

[Sentientbydesign]

What stops the driver from down shifting, braking, and pulling out of the corner while still in boost?

[ACoupe]

Quote »"I hate American cars, and I hate neons, but respect for something that is >you in quite a few aspects is on point here."[/quote]I'll show that tin box no respect, I don't race, I hate Neons, and no matter how fast it goes it's still a piece of ****.

However, I'll respect someone for choosing it for as ride and getting enjoyment out of that choice...

[Jacko3]

The turbo has to spool either way, and when that is happeneing, an NA vehicle with less power is well on their way. In addition, in curves, given the sudden and immediate power production of a turbo, instability is very high with a turbo, if the car is not built with the turbo in mind. N/A car may have a smoother distribution og power in a curve than a turbo, which makes them more stable and easier to handle under racing conditions. N/a cars have their advantages.

[brizanden]

instability is very high with a turbo,

def of a srt-4 imo. i know the car is cheap go fast but seriously is about to kill itself from the factory

[Sentientbydesign]

I guess it's all about driving style.

When I take corners, I downshift well before the turn, rev match, so I don't lose speed until I want it and push through the turn.

[brizanden]

^me too unless i come into a turn thinking im fine and realize that i need to downshift to get some torque back. I Love tracks . wish it wasn't so expensive to run on one tho.

[Sentientbydesign]

How much?

[Minmey15]

Minmey15:

Just as starting a business is all about, location, location, location, cars are all about driver, driver, driver.

Onr thing consistent with all turbo I have come across on the streets is that they have a turbo lag, which allows the G-35 to take off very rapidly. On the top end, they tend to catch up. However, if the first curve on a corner is less than a quarter mile from start, none of the cars you mention will outpace a G-35 if the driver of the G-35 is good, because for each braking that occurs, their turbo will have some lag in order to get up to speed, especially if there are tons of twisties on that track. No Honda till date has come close to making my G look bad anywhere, anytime. Only two cars have come close---A mustang ( I beleive this was a cobra and the driver was veru good), and a Mazda 6 Speed (lightning fast).

Jacko.. Listen to yourself.. You are saying, "IF THE DRIVER OF G35 IS GOOD," right? If your home course is as twisty as you claim, a race car driver will own you with a Corolla. It also means a good driver would drive anything fast.

When I was young, I had a friend who taught me how to drive. He taught me heal and toe, lines, transfering weights, how to feel the car with my butt! He had a stock 79 280ZX, and I had 92 240SX with pretty good suspension. We went driving at Stinson Beach,(my home course) and he was all over me! Up and downhill!! I pushed myself so hard, and lost control, and almost went off the clif.... We switiched car on the way back, and I realized that his car was a POS. That was the time I learned that it doesn't mtter what you drive. Since then, he taught me lots of thing.

But what you have been saying is that 350Z and your V35 coupe are made for tracks and twisty. I just don't think so. I have loved every Skyline they have ever produced..(most of them anyway) So I actually do respect you for your love for your V35, and I do like you for that. But I just cannot stand your wrong point of view of how it was made for tracks ot whatever. Because it never was intended for that reason.

Turbos do have lags, but unless they have a huge turbo, lag isn't that big. Their weight advantage over your V35 plays more important role. Maybe you haven't met a real fast FWD driver. There are real fast ones. Believe me. I have met a a few real fast Integra drivers in Japan. They even drift in FWD.

[Minmey15]

The turbo has to spool either way, and when that is happeneing, an NA vehicle with less power is well on their way. In addition, in curves, given the sudden and immediate power production of a turbo, instability is very high with a turbo, if the car is not built with the turbo in mind. N/A car may have a smoother distribution og power in a curve than a turbo, which makes them more stable and easier to handle under racing conditions. N/a cars have their advantages.

Jacko, have you driven any cars with turbos? You think your V35 is an ultimate handling machine, but try driving other cars. It may wake you up. If you think your car is what it is, then you may be very disappointed, and you may not like your car anymore.

And also, it sounds like your knowledge about turbo is what you read in magazines. Try driving one. You should drive factory small single, twin, after market big single, or whatever. Now days, ECU setting is good, and lag isn't as bad as it used to be. Of course if we have two G35, and one is N/A fixed up, semi race car, and the other one is turboed, and both producing 400HP, then lag may play an important role, provided drivers skills are close. But other than that, at least my S15 and R32 with single turbo with 1.5 bar with 350 WHP, lag wasn't that bad.

But I do agree with what Jacko is saying in a way. Downhill, it is sometimes faster to drive a car with 200 hp than 300hp because when road is too narrow and too twisty, you may not be able to fully use 300hp, but could probably fully use 200hp. Long time ago, when I had 240SX, I raced a fried of mine with a FD, and his car was way faster than mine, but he could not keep up with me at Stinson Beach, because he just couldn't use that much of his power. I was flooring most of the time(only had 150hp or so)

[brizanden]

How much?

160 for one day. and about 3 runs

[Jacko3]

Minmey15:

I drove the Mazda MX-6 singe turbo. Very impressive car! Loved the turbo in it. Much lighter than the G-35 Coupe. Very tight turning radiua but not as agile as the G-35 Coupe with all its weight. I love turbos when I get to drive one, but I do not like the turbo lag. Maybe modern turbos are now better, I don't know. I am itching to get in one soon to see for myslef. The G-35 Coupe is not the ultimate driving machine. It is the ultimate balanced machine.

[Sentientbydesign]

This conversation is pointless. Quite a few of the other members ran into this same block wall with Jacko a few weeks back.

The conversations...or debates remind me of talking to an ex-friend who swore that his grandma was a race car driver and she had a 62, 65, 67,(it was never the same year) lime green Baracuda that could do wheelies in 6th gear.

Despite having a monsterous block and beefy auto transmission, it only weighed 1300 lbs.

I saw him recently in a mid-90s civic. He told me my coupe wasn't fast and that his 67 (this time) cuda could whoop on me.

Also, supposedly back in 05 his grandma sold the cuda (that was supposed to be his) for $750,000. He being the generous person that he is gave his grandma $100,000 of it and he's sitting on the other $650k.

Moral of the story: We can all open our mouths and blah blah blah, but sooner or later someone will catch their

[Minmey15]

This conversation is pointless. Quite a few of the other members ran into this same block wall with Jacko a few weeks back.

The conversations...or debates remind me of talking to an ex-friend who swore that his grandma was a race car driver and she had a 62, 65, 67,(it was never the same year) lime green Baracuda that could do wheelies in 6th gear.

Despite having a monsterous block and beefy auto transmission, it only weighed 1300 lbs.

I saw him recently in a mid-90s civic. He told me my coupe wasn't fast and that his 67 (this time) cuda could whoop on me.

Also, supposedly back in 05 his grandma sold the cuda (that was supposed to be his) for $750,000. He being the generous person that he is gave his grandma $100,000 of it and he's sitting on the other $650k.

Moral of the story: We can all open our mouths and blah blah blah, but sooner or later someone will catch their

Maybe you are right. I still like Jacko though. I love Skylines, and love everyone who loves Skylines. And I also love talking to people about Skylines with people at this forum. Our views and experince may be different, and some just talk the talk, but we are all here because we love our Gs! And Jacko may be just talking, and I certainly don't trust his knowledge about cars, but I respect his passion for his G.

[Beancooker]

That being said, Kenny's 4200lb car (Maxima) is heavy, but kicks out about 220 HP at the tires. It is also dropped on coilovers and has a few other suspension upgrades. It would PWN the average Civic. [/thread]

[rn79870]

Afternoon, Beanor.

[Beancooker]

Buenas tardes Roberto...

[smockers83]

This conversation is pointless. Quite a few of the other members ran into this same block wall with Jacko a few weeks back.

The conversations...or debates remind me of talking to an ex-friend

Reminds me of arguing with ex-girlfriends...and they always come back to me and say they realized what I was trying to say/do all along and they want to be friends again.

[Kenrik]

My G35 was dead even with a heavily modded SRT-4 from 40-100 MPH.

My estimate is that my 1/4th time is in the mid 13's

I don't car if a SRT-4 is faster... at the end of the day it's still a Neon.
Modified by Kenrik at 8:08 PM 4/29/2008

[Beancooker]

My G35 was dead even with a heavily modded SRT-4 from 40-100 MPH.

My estimate is that my 1/4th time is in the mid 13's

I don't car if a SRT-4 is faster... at the end of the day it's still a Neon.

Modified by Kenrik at 8:08 PM 4/29/2008

QFT.

[wackawacka]

I hope you had a good reason to go to Wal Mart to begin with. I hate that store.

[jayremix]

its fast and also ugly

nuff said.so much for my 2nd post

[Jacko3]

Sentientbydesign:

I understand. I see where you are coming from. My beleif is that half the folks with 350Zs and G-35 Coupes will never get to see the limits of the cars they have bought. At least, I am not relying on what a magazine told me. I put things to the test. Sometimes i come back with great results ands sometimes I don't. What is clear is that I give a fair and honest assessment fo what I have experienced.

Do you remember that few had issues with using Synthetic oil? I did use it and have reported on its fantastic attributes. Do you remember that few argued against Nitrogen, well, I used it and it works marvellously. Do you remember that many thought I was crazy flogging my car routinely and that the computer learns the driving sequence? Well, it turns out to be a fact.

Nothing I say will appeal to anyone in its entirety and I don't expect so. However, I am still willing to try it out to see what happens so long as it doesn't cause any catastrophic damage to my car. Perhaps, you may want to call me a guinea pig of sorts. But I must say that it is fun trying out new things with the G-35. I usually conduct a huge risk assessment before trying out anything.

For example, I have been calling on installing a supercharger on the G-35 Coupe. It turns out that from comments on this forum and from independent sources outside of this forum, the G-35 Coupe can handle the power of a supercharger quite well, without any issues. Of course, the case is different if you choose to race the car routinely. How did I know this or even begint to suggest this? Well, it turns out that after several driving experiences with my car, it is without a doubt that the car is grossly underpowered for reasons best known to Nissan of USA. After inspeacting the hood of the G-35 Coupe and reviewing the placement of components, it became obvious to me that the car was intended to be supercharged of turbo charged if one had the money to do so.

What I am saying here is that, I like to do my own independent assessment of things outside of what popular crowd will like to beleive. I haven't been wrong so far on this account, at least to myself.

[wackawacka]

After inspeacting the hood of the G-35 Coupe and reviewing the placement of components, it became obvious to me that the car was intended to be supercharged of turbo charged if one had the money to do so.

swore that his grandma was a race car driver and she had a 62, 65, 67,(it was never the same year) lime green Baracuda that could do wheelies in 6th gear.

Despite having a monsterous block and beefy auto transmission, it only weighed 1300 lbs.

Priceless

[rn79870]

When they bought it from some old grandma, it was lime green. They painted it Hurst gold to make the sponsors happy.

[Sentientbydesign]

In 6th with an auto? lol