sr20det alternative for cali?

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mudvayne9790
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i have a friend of a friend thatll pass your smog for you if you really wanted to swap the engine. but as i keep finding out the ka is a strong engine and i like it lets get a group going down in modesto lol


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Only Cali legal swaps that I know of are:-VG30DE-VG30DETT-VH45DE-VQ35DE

But yeah, all of these seem out of your league, OP...

Wait, is LSx Cali legal? Can't remenber...

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simmode1 wrote:Only Cali legal swaps that I know of are:-VG30DE-VG30DETT-VH45DE-VQ35DE

But yeah, all of these seem out of your league, OP...

Wait, is LSx Cali legal? Can't remenber...
ANY engine from a car the same year or newer then the car getting the engine can be swapped as long as it has ALL emissions from the donor car, and cannot be from like a heavy duty pick up into a car or something like that. Then you get it reff'ed and they go over the swap with a fine toothed comb ans ask you plenty of questions. If you pass there then you get your carb legal sticker, then you go to the sniffer test and you have to pass there.

Looking at my sig you can see that i had a ford 5.0 in my 88 rx7, so I have done plenty of research on the subject.

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With that knowledge, then the 2jz swap is also legal. Or you could be absolutely insane and swap in a Miata engine then legally turbo that.

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as its been mention before, your image is everything if you look like a JDM Tyte thug. You're gonna get picked on alot.

now if you take a subtle route, (high temp black muffler, inter cooler hidden, quite shifts) you'll be golden.

fortunately for me, I have my mother who lives in Arizona, who can register the car for me. After everything is done I'll be waiting for the day when I get pulled over by a cop and he ask me "So this is your mothers car? So why did you mother swap in a rb20det?"

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K3Fallout wrote:With that knowledge, then the 2jz swap is also legal. Or you could be absolutely insane and swap in a Miata engine then legally turbo that.
I know a guy that will be putting a 4g63 into his s13, something about using a supra trans with an adapter plate i believe.

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HardDrifts4Lace wrote:fortunately for me, I have my mother who lives in Arizona, who can register the car for me. After everything is done I'll be waiting for the day when I get pulled over by a cop and he ask me "So this is your mothers car? So why did you mother swap in a rb20det?"
You know... I've never thought of that! That's a great idea... Maybe I'll register my car in my Mom's name, as she lives in a non-smog county. They could care less that I have test pipes, plugged egr and emissions deleted...

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thank you all that have contributed info. im getting alot of different stories. in reference to the sr20, i have been told, no way to make it legal. i have also been told that if i put it in, pass the sniffer i can go to a referee and get a CARB stickr. i dont plan for this car to look all JDM thug type haha(that was good) its really not my style. i just got the car yesterday, am more than capable to do the work, just need a little advice. also, if i keep the KA24 and build it up, with maybe a turbo and others how would it compare to the SR20. and if anyone knows if there is a carb legal turbo for the KA24. i have a coworker with a supercharger on his acura, and he said it has a CARB sticker. hows that work if i cant put a turbo? also, what would a stock KA24 with a 5 speed trans combo be worth? thank you for the paitence and humoring me.

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, Brofist!

I wasn't aware Texas did smog like California? Interesting.

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oh, and actually im not really worried about "legal". i just need to pass the smog check is all. kinda a big risk to put the money time and effort in, only to find out a guys friend of a friend cant or wont do it anymore. at that point, id be screwed worse than i am now.

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mudvayne-if the "group" will help me to learn about the 240 platform, and see other like cars, im down. no experience with japanese cars tho, dont have much but a lil brain power to offer.

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you'll become very familiar with your car over time. So if you do a KA-T you'll be able to throw back on the emissions within a weekends work for that smog test.

Here is our KA-T forum

zerothread/226410

its legit, If you do go that route you'll be looking at, Fuel, oil lines, ECU, Bottom end engine rebuild, manifolds, injectors, spark, IC, Gauges, and a tune.

do it right the first time, so you can look DOSE LIKE A MAD **** (psyche don't do that)



personally if you're gonna not care about the legal aspects. and only worry about smog once in awhile. RB TIME

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hard drift-so really what ur saying is to rebuild from the bottom end up with the KA-T in mind. and just swap the needed stuff back and forth every two years, or get a friends friend to smog it? once the turbo and all the extra stuff needed is on, can it be returned to a stock look if i HAD to take it to a shop for smog?

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I get someone I know to smog it.Spooled240 on this forums just swaps his stuff over to stock and gets it smog'ed.He also got a ref ticket for the modifications to his engine, he swapped it back to stock and got it inspected and then swapped it back to stock a few weeks later.

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OM3GA you're gonna get a Harness from me this summer

and Pella, yes, I just gave you a very broad view of the steps to follow before going KA-T check out the forum. And check in with other KA-T owners, so I don't give you false answers.

but actually you got it in a nutshell. it seems ridiculous now, but hey a least you get to look JDM tyte in Cali.
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Thank you all. going to KA-T forum now. thanks for the link and advice

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Razi wrote:I get someone I know to smog it.Spooled240 on this forums just swaps his stuff over to stock and gets it smog'ed.He also got a ref ticket for the modifications to his engine, he swapped it back to stock and got it inspected and then swapped it back to stock a few weeks later.
it probably takes me about a full day to have my car back to bone stock, then another full day to have it turbo'd again. With my setup it's just unplugging a mafs pigtail(wired in a weatherpack), swapping injectors and a ecu..then the turbo/exhaust of course.

this last smog check i just had it smogged w/ a few ben's

i wonder if a smog technician would even recognize a bone stock SR from a bone stock KA...for OBDI cars all it has to do is pass a visual and a sniffer

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HardDrifts4Lace wrote: , Brofist!

I wasn't aware Texas did smog like California? Interesting.
Some areas do. The Dallas area does... Austin doesn't. But lets be clear, it's nothing like Cali out here. As long as you pass the sniffer, your headlight/taillights/ brake lights work and your tires have sufficient rubber, they could care less what motor is in your car...

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I didn't search at all, but do you have pictures of your engine bay? I remember someone posted a few pictures up who had a KA-T and he hid the turbo extremely well.

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spooled240-so its not that bad to do every two years then? you seem to be a helpful 240 owner thanks. i want to build the motor from the cam up, nothing to crazy, just strong and dependable. its not gonna be some show car or anything, i just wanna build a fun car. if you can give me advice on a rebuild kit that has everything needed for the KA-T engine, and a mid priced decent for what i need turbo kit that would be awsome.

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pella wrote: if you can give me advice on a rebuild kit that has everything needed for the KA-T engine, and a mid priced decent for what i need turbo kit that would be awsome.
NOW you're on the road to success, my friend... Recipe for moderately cheap, relatively fast and pretty reliable: Find someone who's done it repeatedly before and do what they tell you to do.

Some basics:OEM rebuild kitFelpro headgasketDIY topmount T3/T4 turbo setupUpgraded fuel management & deliverytuned to handle about 12psi

Between Spooled and the rest of the guys in the KA-T board and the KA-T.org gurus, you'll be just fine if you listen to their advice...

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Oh and not sure if this is good to know or not, http://www.amsperformance.com

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not too bad, but after taking something on and off so many times you start breaking bolts and stuff...i usually take off the parts if I get reffed or if I can't get it smogged as-is.

as for the turbo kit, there are many routes you can go but I ask everyone that wants to go ka-t: how much hp do you want and what the car will be used for(grip, drift, drag, daily) I think piecing together a kit is the best way to go with the exception of little stuff like a FMIC kit, oil feed/drain kit, etc cuz a lot of kits out there that aren't super expensive are kinda s***ty

And do you mean you want to build up the bottom end? Turbo'ing the ka is pretty involved and it can get expensive real quick...and it can also blow your engine up if you don't do your homework, so search it up. Look at different turbo's, other people's setups, and search for a lot of reviews on parts
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