sr20det alternative for cali?

[pella]

i recently bought a 1995 240sx with the intention of doing an engine swap, but I live in cali and cannot (legaly) do a SR20 swap. so much for homework! does anyone kno of a cali legal swap? or am i stuck with the KA? and what could be done with stock. have seen turbos for 3500 for kit. thats almost a s15 whole front clip! if anyone has any ideas on a good path to take with this mess, please let me kno.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

This has been covered at LEAST 8, if not 9 billion times.

[pella]

well thank you for your timely response. i think its obvious im new, or i would seen it however many times. thanks for nothing buddy! anyone have any real advice? a location of said topics woulda been helpful.

[scotty-2-forty]

i recently bought a 1995 240sx with the intention of doing an engine swap, but I live in cali and cannot (legaly) do a SR20 swap. so much for homework! does anyone kno of a cali legal swap? or am i stuck with the KA? and what could be done with stock. have seen turbos for 3500 for kit. thats almost a s15 whole front clip! if anyone has any ideas on a good path to take with this mess, please let me kno.

"STUCK" with the KA??? Hehehe my friend ... the KA makes for a very good performance platform. I often ask why someone would swap out for a smaller displacement engine? Build what you have. It sounds like you want something ready to go, and do not want to custom build or fabricate anything. If that's the case, GReddy makes a complete bolt-on package. It may seem pricey, but you pay their R&D for the development of a proven system. I'm not sure of their CARB E.O. numbers, so maybe a phone call is in order. In the end, speed cost money; how fast do you want to go?

[numbnuts240]

the only "legal" option is another engine from the same car of the same year, or newer. so you can swap in any ka24de from any 240sx between the years of 1995-1998. being in cali, idk if the donor engine needs from a car that was setup for cali emissions from the get go.

[bersh240]

how bout the giant red blinking search button....

and ya. nothing cool is legal over there.stock. and only stock.

[numbnuts240]

GReddy makes a complete bolt-on package. It may seem pricey, but you pay their R&D for the development of a proven system. I'm not sure of their CARB E.O. numbers, so maybe a phone call is in order.

it's not carb certified. if he wants to stay 100% legal, he's limited to an intake, exhaust, maybe high flow cat, maybe header with emissions bungs, cam swap. no turbo, no n/a itb setup.

[scotty-2-forty]

it's not carb certified. if he wants to stay 100% legal, he's limited to an intake, exhaust, maybe high flow cat, maybe header with emissions bungs, cam swap. no turbo, no n/a itb setup.

Eh ... what do I know; I'm east coast! Thanks for answering that ... I was trying to find out myself, thus why I mentioned he should call.

[pella]

[QUOTE=scotty-2-forty]

Thank you Scotty. Yes you are right, there is no reason not to build this one (KD). I am not opposed to fabrication or frustration. Yes it has to be fast. The KA that is in the car has a blown head gasket, wich is not a big deal. So you would recomend a greddy bolt on kit? what other mods would you recommend for this motor? I need to start someware. No-one knows about these engines out here. lol

[pella]

Dare i ask what CARB is? so no turbo for cali? is there a way to get around it? would it still pass smog, but not the visual inspection? <---cali smashin my dreams hahaha. MED POT BUT NO TURBO?

[numbnuts240]

Eh ... what do I know; I'm east coast! Thanks for answering that ... I was trying to find out myself, thus why I mentioned he should call.

look at my location lol. florida just doesn't care, but cali is smog nazi-land.

No-one knows about these engines out here. lol

i find that really hard to believe.

Dare i ask what CARB is? so no turbo for cali? is there a way to get around it? would it still pass smog, but not the visual inspection? <---cali smashin my dreams hahaha. MED POT BUT NO TURBO?

you really need to research more. especially if you live in cali and don't know what carb is

[scotty-2-forty]

Thank you Scotty. Yes you are right, there is no reason not to build this one (KD). I am not opposed to fabrication or frustration. Yes it has to be fast. The KA that is in the car has a blown head gasket, wich is not a big deal. So you would recomend a greddy bolt on kit? what other mods would you recommend for this motor? I need to start someware. No-one knows about these engines out here. lol

Well, like Numbnuts240 said, the kit may not be legal for you. I used to run a shop and had an account with GReddy ... sold a lot of stuff from them and I can vouche for the quality. I would first contact GReddy and ask some questions there. You can't go wrong with 'proven' bolt on performance. Plus their kit leaves room to expand later. And just for reference, the pic of my bay up there is NOT the GReddy kit (I didn't want to confuse you). That is a fully custom built system; not a kit. Again, if you need to stay legal, you'll need to continue to ask around. If you're still interested in my set up, go to my link below my signature pic. Good luck with it all! Man, sounds like Cali sucks more every day for the perfomance minded!

[duffman1278]

You're an idiot. Sell you car, ride a bicycle.

[pella]

num, i am trying research. anyone i ask says to put an sr. is it possible to ask simple dunmb question and get helpful answers? damn man everyone starts with the same questions.

[scotty-2-forty]

num, i am trying research. anyone i ask says to put an sr. is it possible to ask simple dunmb question and get helpful answers? damn man everyone starts with the same questions.

SR20 is soooooo JDM, and that's what makes it cool, and that's why it's just the MUST HAVE for any kid (sorry, I don't know your age). The KA at least when I built it was very hard to source performance parts for, so it was easier just to swap. I get the comments ALL the time when my hood is up and anybody sees the turbo ... "Nice SR dude!" "Man, is that an SR20?" "... then I tell them it's the KA24 and all of a sudden they seem less impressed. Lack of knowledge, that's all I can say.

On the other topic, I believe in offer help even if there's a big ol' search button flashing away at the top of the screen. I know sometimes when people are new, it's easy not to follow every single rule. I've done it; we all do it. It takes a little time to get in the groove, ya know? ...

[Razi]

Swap in an engine from a newer Nissan that isn't a truck.Be sure to keep all your emission crap.Call your DMV for more info.

[Morph]

anyone have any real advice?

Move out of Cali?

If you search i remember some guy offering to tune your setup to pass emissions.

Search for a user name hazw8st. IIRC he had something going to get Sr's to pass. It was back around 06 or 07 so might not be good anymore just good starting info.
Modified by Morph at 4:50 PM 2/22/2010

[martins_240sx]

i live in cali too. But i must say the sr20 was so three years ago...sorry had to. but on a real note if your worried about the swap it isnt like your going to be instantly arrested for having that engine. granted if you do get pulled over you could face some hefty fines if asked to pop your hood. im assuming that you are worried about the smog aspect of this swap. There are many ways around this. I personally have both of mine registered in NON SMOG counties in cali. the only time you must smog is on change of ownership. My hatch has the SOHC still in it but still if i got asked to pop my hood i will still be in huge trouble. picture to verify\/ Ive been pulled over my fair share of times and have never been asked to pop my hood....knock on wood...i think it fits in a profile of how you look to be honest. Every time i get pulled over in that car im always in uniform so maybe that helps?

[mudvayne9790]

woot someone else that lives in modesto so which 240 is yours?ive seen one that flat black at work, a maroon one, and army green one, prolly a couple others toPICS?

[S14toRPS13]

I grew up in CA and have had a SR swap since about 2001. Yes, it's not legal, but it can pass the sniffer. It just won't pass the visual. Cops don't care, they'll ticket you for an aftermarket exhuast and intake let alone a turbocharged KA or a SR. If you're too scared to drive around with a SR or KA-T, then keep your 240 stock or buy something that's already fast from the factory.

[Cone Junky]

CARB=California Air Resources Board (aka fun Nazis)

You're only options are stock motors, I believe the VG30 is actually an acceptable swap.

Either that or you need to become good buddies with a Smog Tech and make sure he owes you some favors, because you'll need him every 2 years. Like mentioned, the cops can and will make you pop you're hood if they are suspicious, It's been done to me, but luckily my motor had all internal modifications and the cop couldn't tell that I had swapped in a larger displacement block.

I won't name names, but there are guys that do some BS with paperwork and bribes to get a car re-registered as a diesel or document that it runs on alternative fuel (aka CNG). Or a smog tech that just runs a different car on the dyno to fake the smog on your car.But if you get your hood popped by the cops after that is done, you're in a world of hurt, as is the guy who "smogged" your car.

[240sxJoe91]

Well while your at it, us people here on nico like pics so post some pics of your car

[sk8punk235]

I can vouch for that hazw8st dude and doing the smog paper work. About a year or two ago I got my hands on an RB25 swapped s14, and I looked this dude up and got in contact. Last time it was 2 bills, and I took him the DMV paperwork and a week or two later my car was registered in the system no prob. Funny thing is, I barely drive the swap bcuz I'm nervous here in LA. IMO, a swap is a swap and you would be lucky to drive around undetected. I say KA-T. Good Luck w/ plans though.

[krash]

I'm SO GLAD I don't live in cali.

OP, you're life sucks. I'm pretty sure you're stuck with the stock KA unless you're good with paying the fines.

[Razi]

Go SR/KA/Whatever you want.Tons of SR swapped KA-T and whatever else people in Cali, including me.

The deal isn't as bad as the hype is on the Internet.

[s14ben]

bottom mount turbo on the KA with a BIG heatshield? mock it up to look like an extra catalytic converter =P

[pella]

mud, i just got it yesterday. not to sure what to do with it haha, as u can tell. so ima need a lil help. it seems i will be sticking with the KA. but the car has an auto trannie. i have a guy here at work with a new rebuilt KA and a 5 speed transmission. he doesnt know how much he wants for them and i dont know what its worth. so, any ideas, hints, local shops, or any other info will help alot.

[Pdawg]

Why cant you just do a stealth rear mount? Or are the cops really that well trained.

[mRodiek]

SR20 alternative in Cali=SR20 in any other state.

[Razi]

Why cant you just do a stealth rear mount? Or are the cops really that well trained.

Most know nothing.One popped my hood and called my intercooler piping my cold air intake. Didn't get written up for my engine, but did so for my speeding.