SR20 popularity

[yashin]

i've been into 240's for almost three years, i must admit they didn't start out as my car of choice, originally i was lookin for a cheap fast car, so i became a fan of the talon (please don't flame), then i realized even though they were fast, they were also very unreliable, that's when the 240 first caught my eye, cheap, clean, good lookin, and japanese, although at the time i didnt think it had enogh power, as i got more into the scene i learned about the swaps, and the other great aspects of this car, then i bought the supra, couldnt pass up such a great deal, still lookin to sell it and get a 240

[nlzmo400r]

well, im not all that excited about ricers and such getting their hands on our kind of rare 24os and such, but even sill, most ricers are so devoted to honda that it wont hurt us TOO much, the only thing i see good coming out of it, would be you'd be even rarer if u had a nice quick and clean 24o (as more of them will be riced ) and maybe all the hype will convince nissan to bring back the 24o!! or a replacement for it!!, perhaps a reardrive QR or somehting, i dont care, bring back RWD!, that works for me, hell since all of hte hype of supras nowadays, i have heard MANY talks about toyota bringing back the supra to compete with the new Z and rx8

[Jusepi97sx]

something good coming out of all this that is helping everyone is parts are becoming easier to find and most likely less expencive....

[SmithSR]

True, and then the neon/clear/"smoked" junk comes out for sale.

[team23rulz]

lol...i'll probably end up with neons...but thats after I'm finished everything I want to do to my car...as for euros...i hate them...hope they never make any for a 240SX...

The concept around here is why go fast, as long as you look fast its all good...my concept...why look fast if you can go fast?

[SmithSR]

Of course I do, but I also like to go fast, besides, how many Hennecy Vipers do you run across in a day, month, or year? I've never seen one in person, so to me it would be unique! I don't know (S15)...I was contemplating getting a skyline at one point, but the price is kinda up there for one of those. I'll probably find a S14 that was owned by one person and still is stock as hell so I can do everything to it myself...and the molecular biologist, trust me, he has a nice salary, maybe not enough to afford the vette or viper, but enough to do all the stuff he did to that S14 plus more!

OK, it's Hennessey.

If you think a Skyline is $$, please read Car & Driver Sept.'02. And I quote:

"For example, in April 2001, according to a detailed Internet posting, one eager buyer sent his Dodge Viper GTS, with a check for $122,500, to Hennessey Motorsports in Houston. The check was for converting his stock Viper into a Hennessey Venom 800 Twin Turbo, and it was supposed to be delivered in 12 weeks. Later, the buyer sent an additional $20,000 to pay for a further horsepower boost to 1000. But the owner didn't get the car back in 12 weeks. In fact, some 10 months later, in February 2002, no work had been done on the car--and worse, according to the buyer, several parts had been removed from his stock Viper and sold off! This owner has since filed a lawsuit against Hennessey seeking the return of his car, his $142,500, and the usual "punitive damages."Another customer with a long-overdue Venom says he went armed with a video camera to confront John Hennessey at his Houston shop. Hennessey reportedly had the customer arrested for making "terroristic threats."

Later in the article: "The BBB reported 12 complaints filed against Hennessey in the past 36 months, of which seven were in the past year. Of the 12 complaints, only one was listed as resolved.

The article goes on to do a quick Q&A with Mr. Hennessey, in whick he dodges questions about customer complaints but did make this groundbreaking statement. And I quote:

"Generally, now we're not scheduling the work into the shop until we have all the parts ready for the car."

What a novel idea...

[I H8 UR DSM]

Hennecy Vipers

:help

[team23rulz]

Hennessey...i missed the spelling there...too bad for those guys...thats something new to me...but realizing that so many people are at least sending their cars to Hennessey makes the car seem a little less unique

As a Chevy man, I would have gone with the Vette over the Viper anyway...maybe not get the Lingenfelter kit and do like Aries and throw a T100 on it, of course also doing other various engine mods which wouldn't be hard because parts are easy as hell to find for an LS1

Ya'll are going to figure out that I dream a lot sooner or later...

[nlzmo400r]

yea, everyone has different taste, and 'different' can mean many different things (no pun intended) ive always like the hennessey vipers, but since seeing one in texas (john himself i believe) on the freeway against a supra, and the viper got stomped, now an 8oohp viper DEF. COST MORE than the other guys supra, all im saying is for hte money, you could make something else faster, however stock for stock, a viper is great, personally thats why i could never see mysefll buying an NSX, 1ook for a car that runs low 13s, id take an STi for 33k, put about 1ok in it, and STOMP an nsx all the way throught the quarter, and on the road course

[nissanrcer240]

i think dodge messed up when they changed the viper body style(totaly off subject)...about the guy with the 240 in import tuner, i think anyone can go out and buy a nice car if they have the money, but that gains them no respect realy(except the fact that they have money:rolleyes ), but he did the work and made a bada ss car just the way he wanted it,and i think that makes him more of a car enthusiast, thus gaining him more respect, in my eyes anyway...

i think its alot funner to totaly customize your car then to go out and buy one anyways

[nlzmo400r]

i couldnt agree more, sure vipers are awesome, but chances are, most look exactly hte same (except for color and such), however a guy(or girl ) with a totally customized, yet good looking car makes a totally different statement, is shows, personality and such that no stock car can

[gibbo80]

I dont think we have to worry so much, up here there have been many people that want 240s but once they realize how hard it is to find on and that performance parts are 4 times as much as hondas they go back to them or the big thing here is dsms. 240s are getting old and not many people want them and the people that like rice wont buy them because they have so many miles on them and they usually dont care about performance enough to swap. Another thing is alot of the new cars coming out are running low 14s or under and are rwd. All imports are now bringing them back except subaru and mitsu with the awd, but honda has s2k (which gets new engine next year 2.2), Nissan with 350, and toyota is bringin supra back to battle the 350. Domestics are supposedly bringin back rwd to. I think 240s are to rare and still hard (by honda standards) to make fast/ look good (body kits and such) to appeal to people. I like the way they look stock so im good to go i guess

[Eklectrick]

personally thats why i could never see mysefll buying an NSX, 1ook for a car that runs low 13s, id take an STi for 33k, put about 1ok in it, and STOMP an nsx all the way throught the quarter, and on the road course

Hmm, but the STi isn't assembled completely by hand. But yeah, different strokes for different folks.

[bretts15mr2]

I think the 240sx is meant for avid car enthusiasts. I recently acquired my 89' xe in California and the guy did not know what it was worth. Yet he had people lined up to buy the car. I am a ex-Civic owner(good car) , but wanted a cheap car that was rwd and had buildup potential. Plus the car looks good and is realatively unknown to a lot of ricers. I do prefer the s14 bodykit for style though.

[Lsnaple]

ive also been disappointed with all the magazine coverage for 240's and drifting. it was said earlier, that there wasnt near as many 240's made. somebody else also stated that the ricers are going to try and buy 240's and drift, and even make the 240 count lower. so all of us that are left with them, will have a rare car.

[Phax]

ive also been disappointed with all the magazine coverage for 240's and drifting. it was said earlier, that there wasnt near as many 240's made. somebody else also stated that the ricers are going to try and buy 240's and drift, and even make the 240 count lower. so all of us that are left with them, will have a rare car.

Lets now all say a thank you prayer for nearly universal Nissan parts interchangeability. :ylsuper

The cars might become more and more rare, but the parts to repair / upgrade / replace all of the most common components are plentiful.

[WingsNThangs]

(Q) What exactly makes the SR20DET so appealing to you?

Honda boy of the new millenium: Well no doubt we Honda street racers who own Integras, Civics, and Accords all wanted to be as fast as special Honda/Acura vehicles, such as Integra Type R, Civic R, Civic Si, CRX SiR, or simply anything Acura Type S. There must be something about the name of this SR engine that causes me to lust over it, just cant put my finger on it...And this engine is turbocharged, that MUST mean its fast. Hell, the word even sounds fast!

Sells Mom's Accord and buys beat-up S13. Minutes later on some Nissan forum:

"Hi just got my Silvia yesterday and I need a SR20DET so i can drift. Can someone tell me where i can get a cheap SR swap along with the ideal drift suspension setup? After all, swapping a motor must be as easy as replacing computer parts! Thanks yo!

--TyteJDMSilviaSR20DETdriftingDrAgOn"

[nlzmo400r]

Hmm, but the STi isn't assembled completely by hand. But yeah, different strokes for different folks.

true, i did forget about the hand made-ness of the nsx, but even still, for the extra 65k, i dont think so

[Jookmasta]

it seems to me that this entire hype up over the 240 is well deserved. we all knew of its potential when we bought it or else we could have gotten a 300zx or an rx7 or some other rwd car that was older and cheaper. strange enough, after Fast and Furious came out, i didnt see more 240s on the road or any increase in them being hooked up. i will admit that parts began to flow like the river nile tho. I own the cleanest 93 u will ever see with an original paint job but i dont see the sense in an SR unless u drewl for power and have the money for it. i do drewl for the power but sometimes u gotta know when to spend and when not to. Gas first off is an issue for me in my area. its a buck seventy around me for premium and nothin but premium goes in it. second, i think if u do an SR swap, and if someone was to hit u anywhere near that engine, you may actually snap. lol. point is, the hype is just a fallacy. it reminds me of car and driver, automobile and all those other non specific car magazines. they show you something you like but you dont know the trouble that comes with it. "the bmw handles with such precision" but parts are expensive and labor is expensive, and how long is there warranty again? u get the drift. we know our cars are special and i think the spotlight just reinforces it.

[nismodave]

I think the 240sx is meant for avid car enthusiasts. I recently acquired my 89' xe in California and the guy did not know what it was worth. Yet he had people lined up to buy the car. I am a ex-Civic owner(good car) , but wanted a cheap car that was rwd and had buildup potential. Plus the car looks good and is realatively unknown to a lot of ricers. I do prefer the s14 bodykit for style though.

The 240 was never meant for sports car guys. In America it was markreted for women. Thus the weak motor.

[team23rulz]

well it is a sports car...and we know how to make it one hell of a sports car...thats all that matters!

[themadscientist]

yeah 240s suck:pface

[SmithSR]

The 240 was never meant for sports car guys. In America it was markreted for women. Thus the weak motor.

Can you name any imported car besides the new WRX STi that comes with a weaker powerplant in it's country of origin?

Cars meant for the U.S. are detuned, and then an autobox is dropped in. The world market builds great cars, then butchers them with detuned engines, smog controls, stripped of vital electrics(EVO A.C.D. for example), throw on beefy bumpers designed only for U.S. market, and then shipped to our shores.

Example: The next gen BMW M5 with V-10 power will be available with an auto transmission "for the American market". -Autoweek

What the hell would be the purpose of an autobox in the world famous "gentleman's super-saloon"?? This type of *dumbing down* of cars for the U.S. market has been going on for many years now.

Unless any of you have seen an NSX-R on the streets..?

[nlzmo400r]

The 240 was never meant for sports car guys. In America it was markreted for women. Thus the weak motor.

sad but true, o and they didnt sell us the nsx-r here, its HONDA only we got the acura nsx type T

[lilaznvietboi]

I want to do a RB26DETT but it would cost me 8k for the engine and the labor for the swap. x_X

[nlzmo400r]

for the price of a 26, id get a 25, they're almost as fast from the factory, and you have to use the transmission from them anyway

[Eddies14]

I'll second nismodave, to be honest I got my 95 240 2yrs ago, and if I had a choice I wouldn't have gotten it. I learned to love it since then. About 2 months ago I finally got my SR20DET S14 motor installed, and I now don't regret having this car for anything in the world. Since having this motor, the respect on the streets is much more. Mines is somewhat of a sleeper also that looks nicley hooked up but smooth and clean at the same time. If you think about it, these cars orginally come from Japan right ?? in Japan there are no such things as 240s just silvias, so having an SR20DET in a 240 basically says to anyone that your just keeping it true with having one of these cars, and it also says that your just showing the true potenial of the car. To stay nuetral I'll say that I do respect anyone that has the car whether or not they have the SR motor or not and has the car hooked up to a certain extent.

Eddie S14

[nlzmo400r]

:bowdown :withstup , couldnt agree more, but why did u not feel this way about your 24o from the beggining?

[Cyberkreig]

Cars meant for the U.S. are detuned, and then an autobox is dropped in.

Probably for two reasons:

1.) Americans half-assed emission laws. 2.) Americans are probably the worst drivers in the world.

[mackdaddy240]

Kinda sucks that people are jumping on the band wagon because of the dift scene popularity but hey, at least more parts will be available. I've had a s13 since 98, at first I just wanted a import that not everybody and their grandma had like all the damn mustangs driving around my town!!!. since then I've been tring to save enough cash to swap a sr20 but keep blowing it on wheels, spings, exc. Now that I have some extra cash I plan to do the swap but the price for front clips has SKYROCKETED! it used to be much cheaper before all the damn popularity. but even if everybody buys up the 240s, just remember we had it before it was trendy!!