Speeddoctor-Quiz- on Nissan Knowledge

[Beancooker]

Son of a bi*ch. I replied Monza, knowing it was the friggin Corvair. Pisses me off too, because this was the first one that I read the questions and knew the answers.

[Ace2cool]

Haha, Doc, I used to be a big American car buff before I got my Z. Honestly, I was about to buy a '70s Firebird or something of the sort when I found the Z and fell in love

I just don't know much about older Nissan knowledge. Quiz me on the early/mid '90s and I can hold my own

And Noah, the Monza was a trim of the Corvair, so that's probably what you were thinking of. The Monza was a front engine sport coupe. Wow, I do know too much useless knowledge about American cars lol

[gmac708]

Speeddoctor Quiz #5 1. What rear engined car did Ralph Nader can with a vengeance?

2. The first corvette had how many cylinders?

3. The 16 cylinder Bugatti has its 16 cylinders in what configuration? W...V...X...Y....Z?

1. Corvair. "unsafe at any speed"2. 63. W

Rare: I anticipated a well educated debate on this......I made some generalizations...the point being that the 10X rule is a rough/relative mathematical relation to static mass....The real issue is the energy involved in overcoming zero or static inertia to achieve rotating high speed inertia involved in moving these parts. Since the pistons and rods are connected to the crankshaft, their weight is also a factor in the start-up energy required for rotation, or energy required to accelerate the mass to higher rotational speeds. It isn't all 10X necessarily, but the piston/rod assembly is still a strong factor that affects the rotating mass of the crank-rod-piston assembly.

...weight...what?

[Speeddoctor]

Ok...its Thursday...no one has done this quiz in a while.......those who have great job....comon!!!! lets rally the troops!!!!! Its fun and you learn.........I've got an off the Quiz question for the NICOlings....was there a factory turbocharged Corvair? Yes or No.........

[AZhitman]

1. What rear engined car did Ralph Nader can with a vengeance?Chevy Monza

Damn Subaru drivers...

[AZhitman]

Quiz question for the NICOlings....was there a factory turbocharged Corvair? Yes or No.........

Yep.

For 2 years.

180 hp in that car was SWEET (I've driven a '65 Corsa). Fun, fun, fun.

[Ace2cool]

I want to say no, but last time I said no to a "factory option" question, I was wrong, so I'm gonna say yes.

[Beancooker]

Damn Subaru drivers...

But it's a damn fast Subaru...

[gmac708]

I'm going to guess yes for "factory turbo".

[Speeddoctor]

Good job!!!! The Corvair was one of the first two American production cars to be turbo'd the other was the Olds F-85...The turbo Corvair was the Monza Spyder. 62-64 had 150hp and the 65-69 had 180 hp....

Greg would have done well to have kept it...but we all have had cars we should have kept...woulda coulda shoulda

Now guys lets get some more action on this weeks quiz!

[seang]

That Olds F85 was pretty cool stuff, if I were a wealthy car collector, it might be have to be one of my restored examples.

The F85 "Turbo Jetfire" was a midsize car witn an all aluminium 215 cubic inch (3.5 liter) v8, 10.5:1 compression, carbureted and turbocharged, 300lbft and 215 hp, auto or stick shift. That was high compression for a turbo, even by todays standards.

"Turbo Rocket Fluid", which was a water methanol blend, was available from the dealership, and went in a resivoir under the hood and injected into the intake tract under full throttle.

All of this in the early 60's, how cool is that?

I believe that motor is still in production today as the Rover V8 in Britan. They bought the rights and tools to make them a long time ago. Rover v8's are like the 350 Chevy of England.

As far as I know, draw through turbos like the ones found on the Corvair Monza and the F85 are problematic. I hear that the compressor turbine gets pitted over time from the gas droplets. That and alot of them failed back then, I can imagine because people didn't use synthetic oil and coked the turbo bearings. Most people threw in a more traditional v8 after the "space technology" failed to live the agricultural existence of an American daily driver.
Modified by seang at 8:53 PM 1/22/2010

[Speeddoctor]

seang: Wow! That was awesome! At least Greg didn't sell his F-85!

[Speeddoctor]

Answers to Quiz#5:

1. Corvair

2. Inline 6

W-16

Great job all...I will try to get a tally of scores from Quizes 1-5; this week.

[Speeddoctor]

Speeddoctor Quiz #6:

1. What was the base Nissan engine that powered the very successful Nissan GTP cars? e.g. was it a CA16? or what was it?

2. What American roadracing coarse was home (where he cut his teeth) to the late and great/famous actor and Datsun/Nissan driver Paul Newman?

3. If you have a 3 inch, single tube, non- mandrel bent exhaust, and one of the bends which is smallest is 2 inches....what is the functional flow-diameter of the exhaust?

Good Luck! S.D.

[gmac708]

Speeddoctor Quiz #6:1. What was the base Nissan engine that powered the very successful Nissan GTP cars? e.g. was it a CA16? or what was it?2. What American roadracing coarse was home (where he cut his teeth) to the late and great/famous actor and Datsun/Nissan driver Paul Newman?3. If you have a 3 inch, single tube, non- mandrel bent exhaust, and one of the bends which is smallest is 2 inches....what is the functional flow-diameter of the exhaust?

1. VG302. Watkins Glen3. 2"

[AZhitman]

1) VG30ET.

Brabham's car was being prepped for the VG30DETT when Nissan scrapped the program. We saw his #82 car at Lane, and I think it was Nissan's winningest GTP chassis.

2) His first road course experience was at Orange County Raceway in California, at the original Bondurant School (which is now in Phoenix).

3) Question is confusing. You won't have a 2" bend in a 3" exhaust, unless the piping steps down in diameter.

It depends on the degree of the bend. You lose about 10% of your diameter on a 45-degree crush bend. So, a 3" non-mandrel bent (crush bent) system will be about 2.7" in functional diameter through a 45-degree bend, and just under 2.5" through a 90-degree bend.

[PyR0NiAk]

3) Question is confusing. You won't have a 2" bend in a 3" exhaust, unless the piping steps down in diameter.

It depends on the degree of the bend. You lose about 10% of your diameter on a 45-degree crush bend. So, a 3" non-mandrel bent (crush bent) system will be about 2.7" in functional diameter through a 45-degree bend, and just under 2.5" through a 90-degree bend.

I think he was just using example numbers to see if people knew how much it would affect an exhaust with a smaller bend?

[gmac708]

I think he was just using example numbers to see if people knew how much it would affect an exhaust with a smaller bend?

I'm thinking that he meant "what would be the effect of putting a 2" restriction in a 3" exhaust?"

[AZhitman]

I'm thinking Doc is typing with mittens on... AGAIN.

[PyR0NiAk]

I'm thinking that he meant "what would be the effect of putting a 2" restriction in a 3" exhaust?"

I like your wording better.

I'm thinking Doc is typing with mittens on... AGAIN.

When was the first time?

[AZhitman]

Have to be a pretty sharp ( >90*) bend to drop 3" down to 2". Or a crappy tubing bender.

[Speeddoctor]

Ha ha I love this!!!!! great start out of the box!!!!! Greg whose paper did u copy off of!? Hee hee....the question assumes a "bad bend"....like some Georgia boy might do with his cheesy hammer....honestly those were some great answers!!!! Even urs Greg!

BTW: We have some nice folks who play the quiz!

[Rob.Vegan]

I read it but there's no way I'd be able to answer honestly (without just copying Greg's answers or someone else who obviously knows their stuff).

[MinisterofDOOM]

I have a poster of Brabham's GTP car on my wall.

lots of reverands and ministers....but that avatar gave me chill bumps.....no offense, but doom....do they look at you oddly in the Q?

Yeah, but not as oddly as when I get out and they see that I'm not wearing any pants.

[Ace2cool]

Speeddoctor Quiz #6:

1. What was the base Nissan engine that powered the very successful Nissan GTP cars? e.g. was it a CA16? or what was it?

2. What American roadracing coarse was home (where he cut his teeth) to the late and great/famous actor and Datsun/Nissan driver Paul Newman?

3. If you have a 3 inch, single tube, non- mandrel bent exhaust, and one of the bends which is smallest is 2 inches....what is the functional flow-diameter of the exhaust?

Good Luck! S.D.

1. VG30 FTW! 2. Up North. Limestone? Something like that.3. No clue what that even means. I'm going to average the 2 numbers and get an astounding 2.5

EDIT: I was thinking his hometown race track, and it's Lime Rock.

[Speeddoctor]

Good ones.........Doom.....awesome .....Ace.....u R too cool ....Greg......did u lose ur mittens?

I can see from the answers the wheels are a churnin.... luv it! life is good

[Ace2cool]

So what;s the word on the total point tally, Doc?

[Speeddoctor]

Ace! I like that competitive spirit.....I'm speaking/traveling next week and I will have a lot of down time at the hotel. I'll get it done early next week! Promise!!!! Those that are most active are most likely to gain points....Ace, I know you are up there and I know that your mom would be proud... Torrey...well....

[Speeddoctor]

Doom: you are a plastic surgeons dream! And the neurosurgeons would love the easy access to that glowing red brain!

[raremotive]

I thought it was his eye. Which means his brain would needs to be located somewhere is his torso. And probably proportionally larger to support extraordinary intelligence.