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I graduated high school a virgin. What's your point?
AppleBonker wrote: For those wondering, when I graduated college I was 6' at about 245 lbs with minimal muscle (not obese, but certainly not healthy). All the drinking and no exercise did it. I decided to make a change. It took years, but I'm happy with it. I'm not claiming it's easy, but it is definitely doable. There are MANY members on NICO that can attest to that. Just gotta go for it.
This. Seriously, I think the show, "The Biggest Loser" f*** all the fatties in the world. It just proved that hard work and exercise WILL get you down to a healthy size, no matter HOW f*** huge you are. Stop making excuses.


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AppleBonker wrote:
RobPaulson wrote:i didnt want to graduate HS a virgin [..] i did
Tough break.

For those wondering, when I graduated college I was 6' at about 245 lbs with minimal muscle (not obese, but certainly not healthy). All the drinking and no exercise did it. I decided to make a change. It took years, but I'm happy with it. I'm not claiming it's easy, but it is definitely doable. There are MANY members on NICO that can attest to that. Just gotta go for it.
You had it too easy. I was over 300 at the end of HS. I have successfully maintained.

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Okay, the last comment wasn't necessary, but really, I feel sorry for the kid. It takes a lot to get that obese at that age. Only the parents are to blame at that point.
As true as this may be, how do you think you guys they feel about people calling them names like "Fatty"?

I'm not trying to be some kind of playground police here, but good grief!

After seeing this, I can only imagine what you guys would say about me after I'd meet all of you at a Nico event.

[I'm not offended or anything, just looking at the situation from a different point of view here.]
Everybody can be stereotyped/called names for something about them. You might be called fat, I'm called asian, who cares. Someone will always find something to pick on you about.

But if you look at it this way, is it your CHOICE to be fat? You can always change, right? Why did you let yourself get to that point? Or is it a true health/genetic pre-disposition? I mean, not to be offensive, but "overweight" people are usually pretty lazy and non-active. If they weren't, they would probably not be overweight, right?

I don't know, I could be totally coming off in the wrong way. It's just that, in my opinion, being overweight/fat has become too socially acceptable. I mean, a little overweight, who cares. But taking up two plane seats overweight (at 14 I might add) and then people defending it even when the situation was handled wrong? Come on.

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biggie wrote: You had it too easy. I was over 300 at the end of HS. I have successfully maintained.
Do you drive your two cars at the same time?

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By no means did I say I had it hard. I was probably 180 lbs and athletic when I graduated high school. I graduated college in only 3 years, so I put on a bunch of weight in that time. It took me three years to get it all back off. Eating healthy is boring. Unhealthy foods generally taste delicious. I can't deny these things. But, knowing that I wont suffer a massive grabber at a young age, and being more likely to pick up the women most dude's drool over makes it worth not eating the tasty foods. If you choose to eat the delicious stuff, don't be offended when you get fat and someone calls it as such. If I choose to sleep around, I damn sure won't be offended when people call me a whore. When people make fun of how boring and monotonous my diet is, I don't get offended. It's true. To be honest, I don't have a problem with anyone. But as soon as you have a problem with yourself, I may take issue. And people who are offended by being called "fat" or "obese" have a problem with themselves. Not the person using the description.

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cellardoorv wrote:
biggie wrote: You had it too easy. I was over 300 at the end of HS. I have successfully maintained.
Do you drive your two cars at the same time?
:spitout: :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

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cellardoorv wrote: Exercise instead of playing Call of Duty all day and night.
Having a fast burning metabolism FTW! :woot:

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There are many people who are fat beyond control, you bunch of self-important jerks.

I could name anything from kidney problems to natural inclination, but I'm guessing none of you ever considered such things? There are many "fascinating" medical problems that make people fat, and not all of them are made-up diseases (what I'm sure some of you think they are). Sure, eating can be an addiction. Maybe some of you think the whole family should have been denied the flight just because their son was fat? Or maybe they should have just left the fatty there in the terminal to fend for his self? There's a whole other bend to this issue you don't even think about.

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Almost every fat person I know, is because of their own doing. They love to eat and not do anything physical.

I don't believe in addiction, just loss of self-control.

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Dattebayo wrote:There are many people who are fat beyond control, you bunch of self-important jerks. [...] There are many "fascinating" medical problems that make people fat, and not all of them are made-up diseases (what I'm sure some of you think they are).
Nope, I did consider that. A quick google search turns up this article.
Article wrote:Nearly 34 percent of adults [in the US] are obese, more than double the percentage 30 years ago.
Those must be some ballooning medical issues. Or maybe this country is just lazy, and getting fat because of it.

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AppleBonker wrote:Those must be some ballooning medical issues. Or maybe this country is just lazy, and getting fat because of it.
Okay, fine. But to simply write off all fat people as just lazy and stupid enough to eat a lot is just ignorant. It must be nice to be someone who doesn't have problems, right?

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Everyone has problems. So I guess it would be nice not too, but that'll never happen.

Fact is, most obese people are that way because they choose to be. And I'm cool with it. I honestly don't care. Until you start trying to invade my space or impose on me in some way. I didn't choose for anyone to be fat, so why should I have to suffer because of it. I'll tell you what, I damn sure wont let any one of my disabilities impost on someone else. Maybe that's just me, but I don't want hand outs. And it wouldn't be me right to demand them. Everyone needs to deal with their own problems. I've got enough of my own that I don't need to worry about yours.

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Dattebayo wrote:
AppleBonker wrote:Those must be some ballooning medical issues. Or maybe this country is just lazy, and getting fat because of it.
Okay, fine. But to simply write off all fat people as just lazy and stupid enough to eat a lot is just ignorant. It must be nice to be someone who doesn't have problems, right?
Hope that post wasn't directed at me Dave.

I understand that some people have a pre-disposition to be overweight, or have diet problems, but for most "fat" Americans, that isn't the case. It's just because they're lazy and have and extremely poor diet.

Even if they did have some kind of genetic problem/disorder/whatever, it's usually not impossible to stay at a healthy weight. Most people just use that so called "genetic problem" as an excuse to why they're fat. When in actuality, it's still in their control. They just refuse to put forth the extra effort to maintain a healthy weight.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:Hope that post wasn't directed at me Dave.
Not particularly. But being a midget freak, I would think that you would understand a bit more than the average person.
AZ89two4Tsx wrote:I understand that some people have a pre-disposition to be overweight, or have diet problems, but for most "fat" Americans, that isn't the case. It's just because they're lazy and have and extremely poor diet.

Even if they did have some kind of genetic problem/disorder/whatever, it's usually not impossible to stay at a healthy weight. Most people just use that so called "genetic problem" as an excuse to why they're fat. When in actuality, it's still in their control. They just refuse to put forth the extra effort to maintain a healthy weight.
Seems to be you damned the whole lot because of a few people, still. You don't have enough material to back up your claim that they are mostly just lazy. It's an assumption.

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Dattebayo wrote: Not particularly. But being a midget freak, I would think that you would understand a bit more than the average person.
Good one. :rolleyes:

Because 5' 8" and still growing is SOOOOOO short.
Dattebayo wrote:Seems to be you damned the whole lot because of a few people, still. You don't have enough material to back up your claim that they are mostly just lazy. It's an assumption.
How would you like me to back it up? Many overweight people are insecure and use that excuse as a crutch. They know for damn sure that they're fat.

I actually used to be pretty chubby up until about a few years ago, believe it or not. I wasn't obese or anything, but once I matured enough to see that I was in fact overweight, I became self-conscious and ended up losing it in about six months after going to the gym.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:How would you like me to back it up? Many overweight people are insecure and use that excuse as a crutch. They know for damn sure that they're fat.
Seems to me you're bringing other things into it now.
AZ89two4Tsx wrote:I actually used to be pretty chubby up until about a few years ago, believe it or not. I wasn't obese or anything, but once I matured enough to see that I was in fact overweight, I became self-conscious and ended up losing it in about six months after going to the gym.
Kudos to you. How does this help?

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Dave, are you the president of the NAAHAA or something?
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Kudos to you. How does this help?
My heart touching/tear jerker story is to show you I can relate a little. Yeah, I wasn't two plane seats fat, but I did get the jist of it to feel self conscious about my weight. I could only imagine what truly obese people feel.

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Dattebayo wrote:
cellardoorv wrote:There's always first class if you crave extra space. Or request an end seat, whether it is an aisle or window.
Unless you plan your flight weeks in advance or have lots of cash, this usually isn't an option. In fact, I generally laugh at your idea of "requesting an end seat". LOL I'd say you have at best 20% odds.
Um, no!

I take it that you haven't ever done an electronic ticket from home have you?

You can check-in to the flight up to 24 hours early. I try to check-in exactly 24 hours early so that I have a lot of seating choices.

I would say that this increases your odds of getting a good seat to ~60%
ADDirishboy wrote:f**king fat people. Why do we accomodate them?
I agree completely!

I hate when you see fat people with handicap stickers. They have to use a "Rascal" wheel chair thing, but you see them driving and they can physically walk from the driver's seat to the back of the vehicle to get to their electric cart.

They get the best spots right up front!

I want to see these obese effers forces to park in the farthest spots away from the front door!
AppleBonker wrote: If I choose to sleep around, I damn sure won't be offended when people call me a whore.
We won't, we will call you a "Master Key" :chuckle:
Dattebayo wrote:There are many people who are fat beyond control, you bunch of self-important jerks.

I could name anything from kidney problems to natural inclination, but I'm guessing none of you ever considered such things? There are many "fascinating" medical problems that make people fat, and not all of them are made-up diseases (what I'm sure some of you think they are). Sure, eating can be an addiction. Maybe some of you think the whole family should have been denied the flight just because their son was fat? Or maybe they should have just left the fatty there in the terminal to fend for his self? There's a whole other bend to this issue you don't even think about.
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I go on a lot of ride alongs with EMT crews, seeing how I want to get into a firehouse. There are a number of people that we run on multiple times during the week because they are massive whales who have difficulty breathing. No medical reason for it, believe me, I have access to their past pertinent history.

Yes, dave. There are SOME people who are fat due to a medical condition. Perhaps a thyroid problem, or something that cause extremely low metabolism, or other medical conditions. But the fact remains that they account for a small percent of obese people. Most people are too damned lazy to get off their a** and take a jog. Hell, if you're to big to jog, then walk around the neighborhood. Its not that hard.

The BIGGEST problem I have is the amount of time fat people spend in the hospital. They come in cause their blood won't flow through their clogged arteries, get a triple bypass, and then leave. They think that the surgery was some f*** miracle cure. WRONG YOU DUMB FAT f***. That surgery did not cure your high cholesterol. Start eating right and do a little cardio.

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Hey there, I have some insight into this. I exercised and lifted weights from the age of 13 to 18, I stopped abruptly due to an injury and didn't start back up due to laziness. Thats right, I am lazy. I am at a squishy 240 pounds right now at 5'8", that is down from my high last year of 275.
When I was working out regularly, I weighed about 230, alot more of that was muscle that I have now lost and replaced with fat.

I have never even come close to needing 2 seats on an airplane, and if I ever do I will feel horrible about myself, as I should. When I weighed 275, I stepped up to size 42 pants and that was my limit, I needed to do something to loose weight, all I did was downsize the amount I was eating, and tried to go outside to have fun instead of sitting around. I didn't diet or exercise to loose weight, I just cut down a little. If a teenager needs 2 seats, they have a problem, they need help immediatly. I would start with their mental health.

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I wish they had of picture of him...

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Dittoz7 wrote:I wish they had of picture of him...
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Well, then its settled. I'm going to gain back the 25 lbs I lost.

BACON TIME!

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Dattebayo wrote:There are many people who are fat beyond control, you bunch of self-important jerks.
Yes indeed, and I have identified the carrier of this disease.
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Americans are fat f**ks with no self control. I should know, I are one. :facepalm:

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themadscientist wrote: Americans are fat f**ks with no self control.
Americans are typically spoiled anymore... I've been to Italy, Portugal, Scotland, and England, and didn't even see half as many fat people there as I do on base. And the base has several things to promote weight loss. I get disgusted when I come home for leave, because it's even worse... Americans want the easy way out.. They'd rather pay $50-$100 for a bottle of pills and hope they work instead of doing the tried and true method of daily physical activities.

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Wow I kinda feel like I started this whole obesity battle.

For the record, I wasn't commenting on WHY people are overweight. However, I WAS commenting on the fact that they are labeled and stereotyped.

I just think that the labels "Fatty" and "Fat F*ck" are uncalled for, ya know?

Yeah, they put themselves in that position but what if the shoe was on the other foot and one of you guys were in that situation; would you want to be labeled with some insulting moniker?

Just food for thought y'all.

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The shoe is on my foot. In my opinion I'm fat and I am by any standard of measure. I did that. Calling me fat, fatty, fatass, whatever would only be stating truth. If it bugs me enough, perhaps I will change my condition, otherwise it's my fault I can be labeled.
We label and stereotype everything. Fat people are fat, dumb people are dumb, sexy people are sexy, and politicians are lying scumbags. If truth offends one, perhaps they are invested in a lie.

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"Put down the fork" Brian Griffin

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I was about to post the same thing. If it is true, call me whatever you like. It's just an accurate statement. Then again, I don't get offended, so maybe that's why it doesn't bother me. If I lose my legs, feel free to call me a cripple/gimp/whatever suits you. I wont be happy about being a cripple, but the name you call me doesn't change things one way or another.

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I would so call you gimpy!


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