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I'm sure that someone has found this out already but you can't import a r32 gtr for show.

There is actually a list (http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/...9.pdf ) of cars that you can't import for show because the government didn't feel like the car doesn't have enough 'technological and/or historical significance'. What?! I really can't believe that our government is actually wasting their time figuring out which cars are and are not historically significant.

You also can't import it specifically to race it since it wasn't 'originally manufactured as a race car.' (http://204.68.195.250/cars/rul....html) And the government might have a problem anyway if you try to register it as a road car in 2014 because they say you 'cannot subsequently be converted for use on public roads'

I originally thought about this because I figured I could get a r32 over here a little bit before the 25 year rule came into effect to fix it up some. I guess not.


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Did anyone figure out if drift tuners is legit? Or still no US RI?

I'm about to give up finding a GTR until 2014 and get a r32 and just get a STS turbo my zo6 until then

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http://www.importajapcar.com/?hop=tyndago...... scam or what? it doesnt say that the guide will help you legalize the car....????

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I kept looking for the line that says that he can make you $5k a day but never found it.

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bring it in tru mexico and put mexico plates no questions asked.....ull be in a tourist car........

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Just a question, but has anyone on this forum done a poll to see who would be willing to get an r32 when they become available on the 25 year mark, or is that a no brainer?

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avoiee wrote:What if i'll ship my R34 and drive it with dealer plate? i dont mind if it woun't be registered or what so ever just to drive time to time the car with dealer plate?
Dealer plates aren't an easy thing to get... Do you meet the criteria?

If not, then the answer is, no sir.

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noobedloser wrote:
i saw it on ebay awhile back and it had all the motorex documents posted too. i found out later that a store in cali called focus auto sales was selling it for around 17k on ebay dunno about it meeting the reserve or not but it got sold later. 17k is a steal for motorex r33...
That was a scam listing, no question about it. Too many inconsistencies in the ad.

Trust me, no one's getting a M'rex for 17K.

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awhite69 wrote:Did anyone figure out if drift tuners is legit? Or still no US RI?
Read more.

They're a well-documented joke.

Besides, bringing a JDM car into Canada isn't hard, and you don't need an importer to help you with that.

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Awd-racer wrote:bring it in tru mexico and put mexico plates no questions asked.....ull be in a tourist car........
Ummm, have you ever BEEN to Mexico?

I'll leave this one alone, except to say, dumb idea.

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Madness Hero wrote:Just a question, but has anyone on this forum done a poll to see who would be willing to get an r32 when they become available on the 25 year mark, or is that a no brainer?
We're gonna go with no-brainer.

Keep in mind, prices will stay high, as parts become more scarce and the cars get older. Not a lot will be coming from mainland Japan, mostly tired units from CAN and AU.

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I figured as much, I was just wondering if there was any hard evidence to work off of.

Hitman, what would you consider a reasonable price for an R32 when the time comes?

I have been keeping my eye on this thread since its inception (I had to re-register because I forgot my original sign-in name/pw) and I am curious to know your thoughts on the matter as I have seen you shoot down several offers (legal or otherwise) for skylines because they were not priced "reasonably" in your opinion.

Thanks,

MH

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AZhitman wrote:
Dealer plates aren't an easy thing to get... Do you meet the criteria?

If not, then the answer is, no sir.
For me it's very easy to get one , good friend of mine owns buisnes and has couple extra plates.

But i still didn't get answer : in this case will i still have problems?

Thank you
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avoiee wrote:
For me it's very easy to get one , good friend of mine owns buisnes and has couple extra plates.

But i still didn't get answer : in this case will i still have problems?

Thank you
Let me give you an example:

It's VERY easy for me to get a 2009 GTR. A couple good friends own them. I can borrow one and never bring it back.

Ah, yes. It's illegal. Not only can you be cited for having a plate on a car that's not owned by the dealership, but your friend can lose his dealer license. I doubt he's willing to take that risk, if he's a real businessman.

Yes, your car can still be seized, impounded, and crushed. Probably MORE likely, since it will be screaming "LOOK AT ME!" with stolen dealer plates.

Please, let's keep the fantasies to a minimum. I've said it plenty of times in this thread - If there was a legit, legal way, I'd own one. Probably two.

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I'm trying to see if i can import a 1984-1988 Nissan Skyline GTS-X , its almost 25 years old pretty close, do you think this makes it easier to import? also here in MA it will not need to pass emissions. Also i came across this from NHTSA it was just released this month (April 2009). It was listed under "Vehicles Determined Eligable for importation for show/display" On that list these two caught my eye:

Nissan Skyline R34 GTR V-SPEC (1999)Mazda Eunos JCES Cosmo Series II (94-95).

I think it might be worth wild looking into the criteria of a show/display car. Apparently you can drive them on the roads legally, but your milage will be restircited. In my state (MA) it's like 2,500 miles per year.

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So, can you buy a R32-33-34 or whatever and hold it till its 25 years old and then register it or whatever is needed at that time to drive it. Or does it have to be something within a set period of time ____(race,track,show,registered-illegally).? I read something about race car being good for 5 years and then export and reimport for another five. Is this the case or can you just import it, and let it sit for ___ years.

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to my knowledge (someone correct me if im wrong) i think its been covered in this thread too... just the process of importing an R32/R34 is near impossible because of the importation eligablilty. they aren't eligable for importation. The only way to do it is to get a RI (registered importer) to import the car and bring it up to DOT/EPA and FMVSS/NHTSA standards.

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so it could be done with a 33 then, just to let it sit til its 25. how about geeting one to strip down any kind, 4 door 2 door. does that have to be done by an RI. want just drivetrain to use in another set up.

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It's my understanding that it has to be eligible for importation when it ENTERS the country, so that you wouldn't be able to just sit on it for X years until it's 25 years old. I guess that you could squirrel one away in Canada though and bring it in when it's old enough.

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the converted wrote:It's my understanding that it has to be eligible for importation when it ENTERS the country, so that you wouldn't be able to just sit on it for X years until it's 25 years old. I guess that you could squirrel one away in Canada though and bring it in when it's old enough.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

You can always import the chassis and all the other goodies separate...it's not considered a motor vehicle if it's a rolling chassis. and while waiting til 2014+ for R32 or 2024+ for R34 you can assemble it, track it... and finally register it when the time comes. This is perfectly legal. As long you don't drive on public roads. But getting into the country is the FUN part, always...

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thats what i said... -_- lol... but alright yeah.

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Ok... you have have a cookie too.

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How about the importing for race purposes. Which models can and can't and who has to import? Does it have to be an RI?

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Race purposes has to leave in a certain amount of time. I want to say it was 6 months or less, plus to qualify for racing it can't be street legal. It's all in the thread if you want to read through it.

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everything can be found at the NHTSA website its pretty detailed and clear and it also answers all of your questions. if you cant even go and read/research this basic stuff forget even trying to import anything...

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a2000rt2 wrote:How about the importing for race purposes. Which models can and can't and who has to import? Does it have to be an RI?
Already been covered, it's on the DOT website.

And the car needs to be proven race-prepped. I doubt you have the ability to make a log book for such extensive coverage of all aspects of the car.

And like above. It's only a temporary.

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What everyone isn't getting is that i dont want to register it or race or show it. Just want it here. Plus I was going to put it all together in one write up so that there were no more questions to be asked. I know all the blah about not federally legal because of OBD2. Which is all bs because of many cases, but what im asking is can any "Ol Joe "import a complete car of any kind for parts. Lets just get all te facts together in on place so the questions aren'at aked over and over. Some of the ones asked aren't covered specifically, but I know there are people here that can answer them because they have been there b4 or tried that b4.

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a2000rt2 wrote:What everyone isn't getting is that i dont want to register it or race or show it. Just want it here.
Then WTF do you want it for? Gonna make a sick bed out of it? If you don't want to register it or anything then just find a fly by night importer and your good.

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1. (the converted) He said he wanted it for parts2. a2000rt4 every question ive seen/heard on this thread has been covered 34534543 times. If you are serious about looking into this why not try doing some actual research go to NHTSA , FMVSS, and DOT/EPA websites its posted so easily. I can't take you seriously because of how readily the information is. GO READ!

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This two post are exactly what I'm talking about, just put it together in one place. I have read every site you can name and this whole post but nobody has it all referenced in one place. just answer these few questions and I will put all the info from all the sites together in one article. I have not converted at all I said I want it for parts, and no-one would give a straight up answer, so I said I just want it here. Cheapest way.


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