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Uh, a few things they do have skylines that go that fast, or faster. the R390 Gt-1 would give a F1 a run for its money and so would the Koenegsig(sp).


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C'mon you guys keep on rambling about the hachi as a super car. I agree that it's a great handling car, but to beat a stock skyline is taking it too far. I mean, if both drivers have the same experience, I doubt the hachi can keep up in autox or road course. Even most professionals agree that an overpowered hachi more than (150 Hp) requires a lot of stiffening to overcome body roll and body flex. It's a hell of a car, but don't go by a cartoon. I mean, maybe if you drop a formula atlantic, or a highly tuned na 20v, but otherwise, I don't see how the 4age could keep up.

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wow you could get 39 street legal GTRs for the price of ONE mclaren. I know the mclaren is awsome but you could have a 2000hp (3000hp maybe?) AWD, very aerodynamic, and very well handling skyline for that kind of money (it would probably be made out of carbonfiber at this point also).

The problem is with an exotic you are paying for alot of the reaseach and develompent of a low production car that is very expensive to make. With the skyline, you pay very little of that cost because the manufacture is able to spread that cost across 12 years worth of cars that are constantly being improved upon. add an extra $1.9 million to a already great car (one that has been near perfected: R34 skyline) and you will have an absolut killer. Im not saying it would win, im saying it would be very close.

I wrote all of this cause i was board, not cause i want to fight, also im just a weenie for GTR's :beatfreak

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heheh, hes a weenie...

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The McLaren comparison was about the race version, not the street version because that is not a fair comparison at all. I'm was just stating that the R32 was able to beat the McLaren in full race gear. I look back now and it wasn't a very good comparison even then.:rolleyes

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Megaseth wrote:Uh, a few things they do have skylines that go that fast, or faster. the R390 Gt-1 would give a F1 a run for its money and so would the Koenegsig(sp).


Ok. Please give me a link to a Skyline that goes 231mph and its streetable. Now the R390 does not give the Mclaren a run for its money. That car tops out at 207 a long long way off 231. And like I said unmodified skylines buddy, cause I'll show you cars that run 300+ speeds. The 390 was also designed for the race course first and then put on the street. Totally the opposite way of the McLaren. But that is not the topic of this thread, some of you hardcore Nissan fans should draw a line as where the limit stands as far as performance of the Nissan cars and not kid yourself. Nissan cars arent the greatest in the world and there are cars that are better and you should have an open mind and accept it. Bottom line Mclaren F1 doesn't get beat by a Skyline or anything else thats out in production as to this day. Also this is going off topic and it's getting ridiculous because of this comparison. Now lets stay on topic cause I'm more interested why the MRS is on par or better then the Skyline.

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raging panda wrote:The McLaren comparison was about the race version, not the street version because that is not a fair comparison at all. I'm was just stating that the R32 was able to beat the McLaren in full race gear. I look back now and it wasn't a very good comparison even then.:rolleyes


I understand that. In JGTC that is the 500 class. That stands for the 500hp maximum allowed output right? If it is then the McLaren is tuned down because it has a bhp of around 630. As far as now in that series the Supras seem to be the kings and that is a much much closer and reasonable way to compare cars. Supra vs. the Skyline, for some it maybe too close to make a decision. I know I'm one of those people.

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f1seb wrote:I understand that. In JGTC that is the 500 class. That stands for the 500hp maximum allowed output right? If it is then the McLaren is tuned down because it has a bhp of around 630. As far as now in that series the Supras seem to be the kings and that is a much much closer and reasonable way to compare cars. Supra vs. the Skyline, for some it maybe too close to make a decision. I know I'm one of those people.


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ok... back to the heavily modded hachi vs. stock skyline argument!

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theronin wrote:ok... back to the heavily modded hachi vs. stock skyline argument!


How about this is a Nissan Forum...Comparing a highly modded car of any brand to a stock car of any brand is absolutely silly at best. There is no need to even argue the point any further.

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wow... you are such a party pooper!

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I dont know how many of you have ever ridden in a stock GTR let alone a highly modified one but let me tell you both will make you speachless. I spent 6 years in Japan and spent probly half that time at street coarses in the mountains or at a track around cars that peolpe here will not even be able to dream about. Let me tell you I have never once seen a hachi roku come close to keeping up. (I have never seeen it dont mean it aint possible) Supras are to heavy along with the GTO. maybe ok for the 1/4 but you dont see that much on main land. The only cars I have seen give a good run for th R is the RX7, evo and wrx. Although I did see a civic type r whip all them at a rack one day. But out of all my time there the GTR was the most dominate of all. Hell in the tuners battle for the longest time it was a r32 or a rx7 that could not be beat. This is just what I saw while I was there so unless you have seen the real cars in action i would not try to compare what you read in the rags.

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Chingon wrote:No ****, most people don't even know that this is a skyline:


WTF. Since when is the g35 a skyline? Where you just joking? It's built off of the 350z platform. Not the skyline. If I am wrong please someone correct me. :batman

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krazy skwerel wrote:WTF. Since when is the g35 a skyline? Where you just joking? It's built off of the 350z platform. Not the skyline. If I am wrong please someone correct me. :batman


the new r35 skyline will be based on the g35, at least that's what i've heard, i beleive that they are now being sold in japan as skylines, i still haven't heard exactly which engine will be goin into the skyline when it is sold here, maybe the VK45?

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if the cant run awd ...that means they can run the gt-s model???

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yashin wrote:the new r35 skyline will be based on the g35, at least that's what i've heard, i beleive that they are now being sold in japan as skylines, i still haven't heard exactly which engine will be goin into the skyline when it is sold here, maybe the VK45?


Ok so they are building it off of the 350z/g35 platform. I guess thats cool, but I know all the pictures I've seen of concepts are ugly as hell. That they are. :batman

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Sorry man

Basically, US G35 coupe or 4 dr sedan = Skyline in Japan.350Z chasis code is Z35Current Skyline code = V35 which is the same as G35 in US.same engine, chasis, they are the same car.It shows on my Option magazine April 2003 page 67!!

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duh, just to clarify something.

Skyline not equals to GT-R. Many people think Skyline is GT-R, they are quite different. GT-R is the one comes with AWD and RB26DETT, the rest only get RB20DE, RB25DE, or RB20DET, RB25DET, and regular FR layout, sedan or coupe. well it only applies to R32-R34 only though.R31 is FR with RB20.

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I realize the gt-r is just a version of the skyline, but I had no idea that the g35 was actally a derivative of the skyline, and that it was being sold as the skyline in japan. Sorry my bad. Thats what I get for not reading up on stuff. :batman

Also I'd like to point out how ironic it is that I challenged this post since it said most people don't realise this is a skyline. I really feel stupid now oh well learn something new everyday. :batman

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yeah, the g35 (skyline) is built on the 350z platform. Kind of how the old skylines and 300zx was built on the silvia platform (correct me if I'm wrong) that's why swapping engines is not that impossible.


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