Skylines, Supras, etc for sale

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If you got the money check out http://www.hbtokyo.com they sell skylines along with many other non american production vehicles, an the prices are reasonable an shipping wont kill you either, if i had the money I would definatly look into gettin a 180sx.


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Purchase price + shipping + importation fees + legalization + God only knows what other expenses = no thanks... I'll get one from Daunt or Motorex. Well, that is if I could even affrd one of those choices.

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http://www.omegaskylines.com they have the best deals ever!!

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Umm okay, but I think everybody keeps forgetting the 20k legalization fee . . . . I'll stick with my 240sx

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i was looking at their stock and was wondering. . .is the Toyota soarer the same as the Lexus sc300 over here? and which one is faster?

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yes, and the soarer is faster.

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if buy from omega you only pay $7,000 to $10,000 for legalization and their cars are priced at kbb value in Japan.

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Why are the cars on omegaskylines.com the same as on the other site. stop posting these things in the 240SX forum. It makes me jealous beyond belief

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your right I didn't notice that before. anyway you got me? I'm kind of curious now to!!

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kami240sx wrote:i was looking at their stock and was wondering. . .is the Toyota soarer the same as the Lexus sc300 over here? and which one is faster?


SC300 = 2JZGE

Soarer = 1JZGTE

They also made some kick-arse active handling Soarer's

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well i live in winnipeg "rice land" everyone here loves to rice out cars i don't know why but there is a pretty large import scene here i think fasta nd furious was played too much or something. but yeah we have like the lagest cruise night in canada or so i'm told and peopel come from all over to take part. cops don't like it, but hey i don't liek cops. but yeah i guess that has nothign to do with anyhtign, but some guy got a JDM CRX from overseas its quite the sight for little old winnipeg i hate crx's personally but its nice to see some one is trying. but give it a month that crx will be riced out beyond belief so i will enjoy the nice stock look for now

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we have a rhd soarer in town now, was a complete swap from the SC300 i think, ill try and get some photos of it tonight if he makes it out to the meet spot, i have yet to see it but i hear its BA.!! and its got the 2jz twin turbo in it !

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someone want to buy me this one:) skyline

i think i like the looks of these the best out of the skylines

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you guys fail to realize the only way to buy an imported car from japan is through a registered importer. Motorex is a registered importer and the only legal place to buy a skyline for road use in the US. Daunt is not a registered importer, i dont know what he is telling you people but I dont see his name on the governments list of RI's. Also when you buy a skyline from motorex you are not buying a true JDM skyline. motorex has to modify them to meet certain standards before they can sell them to you.To legally import a car there are 2 forms you need to fillout to "declare" the car to customs. One is a DOT form stating wether the car meets federal motor vehicle safety standards which NO jdm car will until it is modified. The second form is an EPA form declaring the emissions standard of a car, again which NO jdm car can. The RB might be able to since motorex has epa tested them. But the SR will not. this is also the same reason many importers are having problems getting SR's into the country suddenly. Once again the only place where you can legally modify an imported car is an RI or an ICI (independent commercial importer). The cost of modifying such cars is upwheres to 25000+. You could buy a legal r32 gtr for 30000 from motorex and have no problems with customs, epa, or dot. or you could spend 5000 to import a 180sx and go through all the costs to make it legal when in the long run all you have is a 30000 240w/an SR. WOOPTY DOO~! All i really have to say is if importing these cars was really that "easy," then why in the hell isnt everyone driving a jdm 180sx and silvias? HMM probably because IT IS NOT easy and realistically cannot be done. enough said.

edit: I would highly recommend reading Custom's, DOT, and EPA standards BEFORE doing anything about buying/importing a jdm car. The information is very complex and the process is not by any means easy.

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if you look at HBTOKYO notice they say nothing about being able to ship a car to the US, only UK and AUS. They have very different import laws then us so don't even think you can get one from them. Omega skylines seems pretty shady to me. There website looks like trash any 5 year old could make with simple html. Also if you notice there list of "'legal cars" they say can be legally imported, do you notice anywhere a 180sx or silvia? NOPE! All the cars on that list are the same chassis (besides RHD) AND engine as their USDM counterparts. The soarer is badged differently, but the engine is a supra engine which is legal in the US, same with the hondas. The only process to legalize that car is convince the DOT the safety standards are the same by having the specific manufacturer vouch they are the same. That's why they cant legally import a silvia or 180 because of the SR. You guys would all know this with a little research.

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SWIFT_DRIFT wrote:Motorex is a registered importer and the only legal place to buy a skyline for road use in the US. Daunt is not a registered importer, i dont know what he is telling you people but I dont see his name on the governments list of RI's.


Maybe you should ask him. There are other ways around importing a car from Japan. Let's just say someone found a loophole that looks very promising!!!:D

We'll just have to wait and see if it actually works... and when/if it does then you can go ahead and pay motorex if you'd like, I'll stick with paying MUCH less. :cool:

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Originally posted by SWIFT_DRIFT "]That's why they cant legally import a silvia or 180 because of the SR.

No kidding.... really?:rolleyes

You guys would all know this with a little research.

Who brought the cool guy?

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there is a dude in iowa with REAL s13 silvia. He bought it off of ebay so of course its not imposible to import one.

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do we really want skylines to be mainstream here? Yeah, sure some of you with some money could get a skyline with this "loophole" that Daunt or whoever found, but then so can the same kids that used to get money from mommy and daddy to hook up his civic. I would rather not see people ricing and ruining the name and rep of Skyline in the US then having to save up and pay a 30k for a 92 gt-r.

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i hope skylines go mainstream, then nissan of north america will realize how stupid they are after people go way more trouble to get a old nissan that was probably abused to hell and not even sold in this country rather then buy a new nissan.

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J-Spec Tuner wrote:there is a dude in iowa with REAL s13 silvia. He bought it off of ebay so of course its not imposible to import one.


Mr. Obvious strikes again.... Hey look what i have sitting in my driveway!

Cool an imported 180sx. but can I get it legalized? no.

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maineimport wrote:Maybe you should ask him. There are other ways around importing a car from Japan. Let's just say someone found a loophole that looks very promising!!!:D


well im sticking with what i said in the first place. If importing and legalizing a nonconforming car was really that easy then there would be ALOT of them here already. Sorry but I dont see "cheap" "legal" skylines everywhere.

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couldn't you just say....modify the ECU a tad and strap some **** on the exhaust area that would make it probably run like ****, but pass emmisions, then pay for the 7k for legalizatio, and take the ecu mod and exhaust stuff off every year/2 years between emmission testing? possibly? ^^;;;

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Couldnt you take a 240sx vins an switch em too the 180sx no cop of DMV will know the difference

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toki wrote:couldn't you just say....modify the ECU a tad and strap some **** on the exhaust area that would make it probably run like ****, but pass emmisions, then pay for the 7k for legalizatio, and take the ecu mod and exhaust stuff off every year/2 years between emmission testing? possibly? ^^;;;


well in a word, no. if you would read about the epa regs you would know what you just said was retarded. to declare the car in port/customs you have to state what engine it has. emissions is state/county run. the county I live in has interesting emissions requirements anyways, and luckily for me the zip code I live in has no emissions, while say the next town away in the same county does.

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Silent Drifter wrote:Couldnt you take a 240sx vins an switch em too the 180sx no cop of DMV will know the difference


again this is a big no. the stamped firewall vin would visually be different. a legitimate RHD swap on a US car retains the US stamped vin number on the firewall while you weld in the jdm firewall below that. Also this is a risk because technically by changing your car to RHD it can be argued the car is no longer safe and does not meet federal safety standards. the exact law on this is sort of sketchy and can be interpreted differently, but in general you have changed to car substantially beyond the legal limit.

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SWIFT_DRIFT wrote:well im sticking with what i said in the first place. If importing and legalizing a nonconforming car was really that easy then there would be ALOT of them here already. Sorry but I dont see "cheap" "legal" skylines everywhere.


Hey, I don't disagree with you at all. I'm just saying that the explanation I was given about how this works makes a lot of sense. I've yet to see it done, so I'll withhold judgment until it's been proven effective.

I'm certainly no importation expert, and obviously you have spent much time and effort researching the protocol (BTW your attitude is a little abrasive). Getting the car here is no more complicated than importing ANYTHING from a foreign country. But, the process for legalizing it starts in Japan and has to do with HOW it’s imported and HOW it’s registered when it gets here.

It’s no big secret I’m sure, but I’d rather not spill the beans incase it was supposed to be on the DL.

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maineimport wrote:Hey, I don't disagree with you at all. I'm just saying that the explanation I was given about how this works makes a lot of sense. I've yet to see it done, so I'll withhold judgment until it's been proven effective.

I'm certainly no importation expert, and obviously you have spent much time and effort researching the protocol (BTW your attitude is a little abrasive). Getting the car here is no more complicated than importing ANYTHING from a foreign country. But, the process for legalizing it starts in Japan and has to do with HOW it’s imported and HOW it’s registered when it gets here.

It’s no big secret I’m sure, but I’d rather not spill the beans incase it was supposed to be on the DL.


It sure sounds and seems like a big secret as not many people know about Daunt's "trick." I am curious if you would disclose it because if the "trick" is completely legal then why should you fear about spilling it. Also it would make sense for Daunt if he could legally import a car to advertise about this. Importing cars would net him huge profits compared to engines, don't you think?

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Originally posted by SWIFT_DRIFT "]It sure sounds and seems like a big secret as not many people know about Daunt's "trick."

I just asked him one day in converstion. Maybe he'll tell you too if you ask real nice!:D

I am curious if you would disclose it because if the "trick" is completely legal then why should you fear about spilling it.

If it works then I'd rather let him reep the rewards for his innovative thinking. Since I didn't think of it I'd rather not go around discussing it. If he wishes to disclose the method I'm sure he will... see, it's really none of my busiess.

Also it would make sense for Daunt if he could legally import a car to advertise about this. Importing cars would net him huge profits compared to engines, don't you think?

And I'm sure when things get rolling for him, and if the system actually works as easily as it seems it should, then he'll be advertising it.

But, it's not like these cars are going to be dirt cheap. The price is going to reflect the original purchase price, importing fees, and some other costs involved with this particular method of legalization. That is... if he's even planning to still do it. I don't know... ask him yourself.


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