Seriously nico???

A General Discussion forum for cars and other topics, and a great place to introduce yourself if you are new to NICO!
User avatar
RobPaulson
Posts: 6577
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:04 am
Car: 2013 Subaru WRX

Post



wasnt trying to be rude greg, i'm fully aware and empathetic to the time/effort/resources necessary to do whats mentioned here, was just trying to provide some feedback, I suppose this wasnt the medium to do it


User avatar
Urabus GodofTraction
Posts: 6178
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:36 pm
Car: 2002 Subaru WRX Wagon
2004 Suzuki SV650
1988 Toyota Land Cruiser
1994 Honda XR600R

Post

In this thread: the correct response to "put up or shut up..."

User avatar
PoorManQ45
Posts: 16676
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:13 pm

Post

AZhitman wrote:Thanks, Captain Obvious. We're all much more enlightened now.

AZhitman wrote:We've already completed Stage I of our big upgrades (migrating all static content to WP), and are implementing gzip on both the forum templates and the static stuff (as well as the ad server) just like you suggested...
Is that why Nico goes down around 1am EST?

User avatar
AZhitman
Administrator
Posts: 54542
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:04 am
Car: 58 L210, 63 Bluebird RHD, 64 NL320, 65 SPL310, 66 411 RHD, 67 WRL411, 68 510 SR20, 75 280Z RB25, 77 620 SR20, 79 B310, 90 Z32, 91 GTi-R, 92 Silvia Qs, 98 S14, 23 Z.
Location: Surprise, Arizona
Contact:

Post

AZhitman wrote:We've already completed Stage I of our big upgrades (migrating all static content to WP), and are implementing gzip on both the forum templates and the static stuff (as well as the ad server) just like you suggested...
PoorManQ45 wrote:Is that why Nico goes down around 1am EST?
Cause and effect: You're doing it wrong.

User avatar
frapjap
Posts: 13175
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:46 pm
Car: '99 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
'07 Subaru Legacy
Location: South Coast Massachusetts

Post

Out of curiosity, is stage II going to bring new updates to a mobile version of NICO?

User avatar
AZhitman
Administrator
Posts: 54542
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:04 am
Car: 58 L210, 63 Bluebird RHD, 64 NL320, 65 SPL310, 66 411 RHD, 67 WRL411, 68 510 SR20, 75 280Z RB25, 77 620 SR20, 79 B310, 90 Z32, 91 GTi-R, 92 Silvia Qs, 98 S14, 23 Z.
Location: Surprise, Arizona
Contact:

Post

Some of that will be addressed with this phase of improvements, but getting it where I think it needs to be will take a little longer, after the actual forum and archive transitions.

TG, I may take you up on your offer to some extent... We're just plain slammed with work.

User avatar
PoorManQ45
Posts: 16676
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:13 pm

Post

AZhitman wrote:


Cause and effect: You're doing it wrong.
You didn't establish the cause...

I asked if your actions were the cause of the issue that is occurring.

User avatar
tg
Posts: 3090
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:15 am

Post

AZhitman wrote:Some of that will be addressed with this phase of improvements, but getting it where I think it needs to be will take a little longer, after the actual forum and archive transitions.

TG, I may take you up on your offer to some extent... We're just plain slammed with work.
np man i have a few php monkeys ready to unleash (under supervision, of course) heh.
PoorManQ45 wrote:
Is that why Nico goes down around 1am EST?
Anyways, no the site goes down at 1am for regular maintenance, backups and purging and rebuilding indices likely.

SO anyways, you have my email greg. I also have a qc xeon with 8gb of ram and a few TB of space on a very very fast backbone doing nothing. I could hook you up for the cost of bandwidth (we pay 4$/mbps). I really hope you guys aren't paying anywhere near the pricing I saw on pair.com :\ wow.

User avatar
PoorManQ45
Posts: 16676
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:13 pm

Post

tg wrote:SO anyways, you have my email greg. I also have a qc xeon with 8gb of ram and a few TB of space on a very very fast backbone doing nothing. I could hook you up for the cost of bandwidth (we pay 4$/mbps). I really hope you guys aren't paying anywhere near the pricing I saw on pair.com :\ wow.
Hehe, I have a faster server in my house then that... Dell R410...
tg wrote:Anyways, no the site goes down at 1am for regular maintenance, backups and purging and rebuilding indices likely.
Why isn't this done on the fly?

Backups should not be pulled from the live server(s). They should be done from a mirrored system.

Why would you need to rebuild anything?

User avatar
tg
Posts: 3090
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:15 am

Post

PoorManQ45 wrote:
Hehe, I have a faster server in my house then that... Dell R410...

Why isn't this done on the fly?

Backups should not be pulled from the live server(s). They should be done from a mirrored system.

Why would you need to rebuild anything?
cool so nicoclub gets two servers. thats nice of you.

User avatar
AZhitman
Administrator
Posts: 54542
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:04 am
Car: 58 L210, 63 Bluebird RHD, 64 NL320, 65 SPL310, 66 411 RHD, 67 WRL411, 68 510 SR20, 75 280Z RB25, 77 620 SR20, 79 B310, 90 Z32, 91 GTi-R, 92 Silvia Qs, 98 S14, 23 Z.
Location: Surprise, Arizona
Contact:

Post

PoorManQ45 wrote:
Hehe, I have a faster server in my house then that... Dell R410...

Why isn't this done on the fly?

Backups should not be pulled from the live server(s). They should be done from a mirrored system.

Why would you need to rebuild anything?
Why did I not predict that our resident know-it-all would come in here and tell us all how he could do it faster, easier, and better?

I must be slipping ni my old age.

Brien, if you were 1/10th as smart as you think you are, you'd be getting paid a lot of money for your expertise.

TG, you think you could get our boy Brien here a job?

You should probably go start a forum. I hear it's fun, interesting, and stress-free.

User avatar
PoorManQ45
Posts: 16676
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:13 pm

Post

AZhitman wrote:
Why did I not predict that our resident know-it-all would come in here and tell us all how he could do it faster, easier, and better?

I must be slipping ni my old age.
That does happen when you get old
AZhitman wrote:Brien, if you were 1/10th as smart as you think you are, you'd be getting paid a lot of money for your expertise.
It kind of sucks not having paper credentials
AZhitman wrote:You should probably go start a forum. I hear it's fun, interesting, and stress-free.
Nope, I commend you and the others for the work that you have put in to make, and keep, Nico free for all!

User avatar
tg
Posts: 3090
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:15 am

Post

PoorManQ45 wrote:
It kind of sucks not having paper credentials

Nope, I commend you and the others for the work that you have put in to make, and keep, Nico free for all!
funny how the only jobs that aren't being taken over by illegal immigrants are the ones that require papers... makes me sort of happy that i didn't study in construction.

Anyways, the server I offered was a SPARE I had lying around, rest assured we have some 4U monsters that would put your R410 to shame ;D

to that I say:

Ask any sysadmin, any real sysadmin. It doesn't matter if you have 4 cores or 40; throughput is throughput.

User avatar
TurboSauce
Posts: 6702
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 2:12 pm
Car: 2006 G35 coupe, 2018 Mazda CX-9
Location: Orlando

Post

tg wrote:
Ask any sysadmin, any real sysadmin. It doesn't matter if you have 4 cores or 40; throughput is throughput.

User avatar
PoorManQ45
Posts: 16676
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:13 pm

Post

tg wrote:Ask any sysadmin, any real sysadmin. It doesn't matter if you have 4 cores or 40; throughput is throughput.
hehe, I am waiting for STEC SSDs to become more realistically priced. Talk about throughput and I/O!!!
tg wrote:Anyways, the server I offered was a SPARE I had lying around, rest assured we have some 4U monsters that would put your R410 to shame ;D
What type of systems are you rocking? I can always get new toys just because...


User avatar
tg
Posts: 3090
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:15 am

Post

PoorManQ45 wrote:
hehe, I am waiting for STEC SSDs to become more realistically priced. Talk about throughput and I/O!!!

What type of systems are you rocking? I can always get new toys just because...
let me know when your db server is doing 140,000 iops ok. Anyways, azhitman you know where to find me. I'll leave it at that.

User avatar
AppleBonker
Posts: 17313
Joined: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:40 am
Car: Useful: 2011 Nissan Titan Pro-4x
Daily: 2003 Honda Accord EX-L Coupe
Hers: 2014 Nissan Rogue SL AWD
Location: NW Indiana

Post

PoorManQ45 wrote:STEC SSDs
SSDs FTW. I love mine in my PCs, but I don't even want to price them out on the server side. Thankfully, that's not an issue for me.

Greg, can't wait to play around on here once the upgrades are all complete!

User avatar
PoorManQ45
Posts: 16676
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:13 pm

Post

tg wrote:
let me know when your db server is doing 140,000 iops ok. Anyways, azhitman you know where to find me. I'll leave it at that.
Check out STEC once. You might be a little shocked. A single STEC Zeus is good for Read: up to 80,000, Write:40,000!!! That is effing sexy
AppleBonker wrote:
SSDs FTW. I love mine in my PCs, but I don't even want to price them out on the server side. Thankfully, that's not an issue for me.
I had a pair of Samsung 256GB SSDs in my laptop. They were set up in a Raid 0. Initially the average read speed was 440MBps! But after ~6 months of heavy use the average read dropped to ~150MBps!!! I sold them and went to a pair of 500GB 7200s in a raid 0. Not as fast, but pretty quick.

User avatar
AppleBonker
Posts: 17313
Joined: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:40 am
Car: Useful: 2011 Nissan Titan Pro-4x
Daily: 2003 Honda Accord EX-L Coupe
Hers: 2014 Nissan Rogue SL AWD
Location: NW Indiana

Post

PoorManQ45 wrote:But after ~6 months of heavy use the average read dropped to ~150MBps!!!
Too bad TRIM isn't supported across raid. My windows drive on my desktop is a pair of OCZ 30 GB drives raid 0, but I don't use windows much. My Ubuntu drive is a single 30 OCZ. When I get around to buying windows 7 I'll probably pick up a 160 gig Intel G2 and move one of the OCZs to my netbook (and the other to my HTPC) and take the 80 GB Intel G2 out of my netbook and use as my windows drive on my desktop. Unfortunately the 160 GB Intel is too pricey for me right now.

Why did you run that much space raid 0? I'd be worried about data integrity. I've only ever run raid 0 for os/program drives (which never requires more than about 70 gigs for me - even in windows). I've got larger capacity drives raid 1 for my data.

User avatar
tg
Posts: 3090
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:15 am

Post

PoorManQ45 wrote:
Check out STEC once. You might be a little shocked. A single STEC Zeus is good for Read: up to 80,000, Write:40,000!!! That is effing sexy

I had a pair of Samsung 256GB SSDs in my laptop. They were set up in a Raid 0. Initially the average read speed was 440MBps! But after ~6 months of heavy use the average read dropped to ~150MBps!!! I sold them and went to a pair of 500GB 7200s in a raid 0. Not as fast, but pretty quick.
8 ocz vertex raid 0 in my home pc. Been running this setup since last spring, no slowdowns. Thanks for coming out though.




User avatar
AppleBonker
Posts: 17313
Joined: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:40 am
Car: Useful: 2011 Nissan Titan Pro-4x
Daily: 2003 Honda Accord EX-L Coupe
Hers: 2014 Nissan Rogue SL AWD
Location: NW Indiana

Post

tg wrote:


Well, I guess my e-peen is tiny. Sorry for derailing your thread tg. I'm out! I apparently can't compete.

User avatar
tg
Posts: 3090
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:15 am

Post

AppleBonker wrote:


Well, I guess my e-peen is tiny. Sorry for derailing your thread tg. I'm out! I apparently can't compete.
trust me you're not the one putting the logs on the rail.

User avatar
ADDirishboy
Posts: 13079
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:08 am
Car: 2008 Nissan Titan Pro4x
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Contact:

Post

This thread hurts my brain.

User avatar
AZhitman
Administrator
Posts: 54542
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:04 am
Car: 58 L210, 63 Bluebird RHD, 64 NL320, 65 SPL310, 66 411 RHD, 67 WRL411, 68 510 SR20, 75 280Z RB25, 77 620 SR20, 79 B310, 90 Z32, 91 GTi-R, 92 Silvia Qs, 98 S14, 23 Z.
Location: Surprise, Arizona
Contact:

Post

Well, if you had paper credentials it wouldn't.

BTW, our SysAdmin makes $120K and doesn't have a credential to his name.

Thanks for coming out (I'm gonna keep using that one... )

User avatar
Rex
Posts: 16845
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2003 6:50 pm
Car: None
Location: South of ATL
Contact:

Post

My 2 favs are

su - rootandsetpri

Of course, I have no idea what I'm talking about

User avatar
PoorManQ45
Posts: 16676
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:13 pm

Post

tg wrote:
8 ocz vertex raid 0 in my home pc. Been running this setup since last spring, no slowdowns. Thanks for coming out though.


RamDrive > SSDs

I never got around to setting it up on my laptop. I've got 16GB of DDR3

User avatar
PoorManQ45
Posts: 16676
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:13 pm

Post

AZhitman wrote:BTW, our SysAdmin makes $120K and doesn't have a credential to his name.
Really? How did he end up in that position? Did he found that datacenter?

User avatar
tg
Posts: 3090
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:15 am

Post

PoorManQ45 wrote:
RamDrive > SSDs

I never got around to setting it up on my laptop. I've got 16GB of DDR3
this is not ramdrive, this is my ssd array.
AZhitman wrote:Thanks for coming out (I'm gonna keep using that one... )
I expect to see it!

User avatar
PoorManQ45
Posts: 16676
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:13 pm

Post

tg wrote:
this is not ramdrive, this is my ssd array.
What Raid controller are you using, and what bus is it one?

What is the rest of your system? What's it used for if it's a "home" system?

Also, what was your test setup? The maximum theoretical read speed you could get from that configuration should be 230 x 8. 1840

User avatar
Jesda
Posts: 39644
Joined: Mon May 05, 2003 1:50 pm
Location: STL, DTW
Contact:

Post

Rex wrote:My 2 favs are

su - rootandsetpri

Of course, I have no idea what I'm talking about
You and I both, LOL.


Return to “General Chat”