scammer alert: Andre Aguilar (Ilovejdm)

[PapaSmurf2k3]

Anyone got his cell#? I'll send him a text or 2. My number is untraceable (AFAIK). Besides, I don't think he would come to Germany to get me haha.

[notslow]

wow, holy CSI Batman... this is awesome haha

anyone who works at a cell carrier should try and do a reverse lookup on his number and possibly use whatever account management system they use. I work for a Canadian carrier so I cant be of a help.

[driftmyke]

serioiusly somebody should just go to his house and knock his lights out then take what you feel is worth the value of what he owes you. if i lived closer i would do it for you.

[mat180]

if you call his number that is posetd you have the option to leave a message to his pager

[mat180]

omg

hes such a ***

he wont even be a man and answer phone calls or return emails anymore


Modified by mat180 at 7:51 AM 6/25/2007

[PapaSmurf2k3]

ok, thats it, its official. I am now revenge for hire. Pay for my ticket to fly there, and I will gurantee a revenge of some sort.

[s_13_steve]

i can't belive this ****, this has gone on too long, i can't believe that people like andre are allowed to live, that little **** bag need to be castrated so he can't polute the rest of the world. he is probably reading this laughing, well it's not funny cuz ***holes like him always have whats coming to them, ALWAYS. mat you should post his phone number and address in big bold letters with a link to this thread on every forum you know. if no one goes to his house, im sure there will be enough people willing to call and bug him. i really wish i were stateside right now so i could help you out.

[mat180]

hey guys

i needa favour

anyone who lives in the la mesa area, can you look in your phone book for

Andres Aguilar

or

Lucy Dominguez

lucy is his finace and there home number may be under here name

if you find something and its located on baltimore drive, thats them

ide lke to get his home number since he's too scared to answer his phone when i call

thanks guys

hopefullythis works

[teddy]

Is this guys name Andre, or Andres? I'm getting two completely different fields of results depending on the search.

If it's Andres, I found a guy living in La Mesa, CA, but not at the address Greg listed. I also have a home number

[mat180]

andres

whats the addy and number?

i believ we posted the wrong addy number here

i dont think its 56


Modified by mat180 at 7:50 AM 6/25/2007

[teddy]

Andres Aguilar5700 Baltimore DriveLa Mesa, CA 91942(619) 460-1686

This address seems to be an apt complex. I also have names/addy's/and numbers of neighbors too, for whatever good that might do.

Mods, please feel free to remove this information if needed. I just figured it'd be alright since Greg already posted some up earlier.

[PapaSmurf2k3]

... so I called someone els at 2am? BAHAHAA!

[mat180]

no u didnt

the other number is his cell

we'll see if he answers now

last i heard from him was last friday morning

and it is 5700, i dont know why i thought it was 56

thanks guys

[mat180]

omg wow

his phone number thatis posted above has been disconnected

what a jackass

can you give me the numbers of his neighbours? ill call them looking for a number.

does anyone live near him?

[skylndrftr]

if he goes to UCLA this might be him

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/northern....html

Don't know how much OP and Hitman know offline about this douchebag but if this seems to match up his thesis advisor might be interested in the thread

[mat180]

not him, hes not that smart

he works for some bar/nightclub

but he's disapeared, i havent heard from him since last friday

i think i may as well give up

he no longer answers emails, he no longer has cell phone voicemail, his phone is never on, his home phone is disconected

i guess i should be happy that i got $80 out of him

[PapaSmurf2k3]

**** that man, **** THAT! Now you really gotta make this doushbag pay. Call those local cops and DEMAND they do something. If that doesn't work, call the local TV stations, and tell them not only about how he scammed you, but about the lazy ****tard cops aren't doing a damn thing.

[kornaz]

Cops won't do shiet. Look at the Alec's thread - nothing has been done by authorities. It's eaither you take it into your own hands, or try and waste lots m,ore money/time trying to get back the money. I say caravan to SD.

[180sxfaktory]

I've been reading this thread and the Alec thread, and I definitely do not condone/support criminal-minded behavior/actions. You guys have given these guys more than ample opportunity to "make good" on money they have taken from members of our community, BUT...

Here's some old man advice to impart to the group...

I just want you guys to know that conveying threats via the internet and caravaning to wherever these guys are located and taking matters into your own hands, paying someone to do something to them CAN land you into equally hot water. If these guys decide to use the law, efforts to get these two and others like them can backfire on the community.

AZHitman, I am sure you are aware of this, and I hope that you are covering yourself because if something does happen to the perpetrators, and if they have reasonable cause to believe the threat/planning/carrying out of an action that results in bodily harm or reason to believe that life and property are at risk, all these threads can be used in their defense.

In summary, someone start a class action lawsuit (yes, this has all been mentioned; nothing new here), quit conveying what you are gonna do and how you are gonna do it on the internet and use legal methods (it takes a real man/woman to keep emotions in check and do the right thing; vengeance via violence is not condoned in most countries in the free world). Yes, I hear that law enforcement seems disinterested, and the only way they are going to get involved is if the group provides solid proof via class action lawsuit and get the legal process rolling, and if criminal intent can be reasonably proven, things start to heat up.

Please, be smart. Even if this whole affair stinks like ****, the fact that the US judicial system's maxim "innocent until proven guilty" is what helps make the USA a great country.

[guillermoe]

Thats true faktory, we all need to play it smart.

But anyways, if any of you finds Andre or any other of our local scamers is trying to hide here in Mexico you better notify me. It would be safer to reach him here without worrying about legar retialiation

Just let me know, ok?

[mat180]

nothing is going to get done

the police wont help me, ive already tried emailing and calling

the law wont help me as im way the hell up here and if i wanted to bring him to court, ide have to fly down there and serve him firstor have someone serve him for me, which prolly wont happen]

he's just a douche and will get whats oming to him

what goes around comes around

[180sxfaktory]

Nothing is impossible. Because you live in another country does not exclude you or anybody that is not a US citizen from seeking justice. Are you located near a US consulate/embassy? You can lodge a complaint there as long as you have the proof of the transaction. The US consulate/embassy does not look kindly on US citizens who create "tension" between the US and other countries. It makes for bad PR. Mail order fraud committed via the US Postal Service and/or the internet is a crime. Nothing new here, but if you and others who have bonafide proof (e-mail trails, phone contact, forum replies, mailed correspondence, proof of bank transaction, and the list goes on) of a business transaction with the said named perpetrator(s) where you and others did not receive the item(s), the "mark" is big enough to devote resources, and you can get some relief. When? It all depends on how earnest you/group are in pursuit of the matter, and it all starts with a lawsuit. I am sure that NICO has someone who is a member, as well as a lawyer whose area of practice covers internet/mail order fraud. Has anybody asked this?

I really hope this matter gets resolved, but as long as this thread keeps on going and threats are made, the only ones who will benefit from all of this are the ones who took your money in the first place. All they have to do is get someone to beat them up, go to the cops and report the beatdown as a crime committed by members from NICO. A lawyer would see this as an opportunity to make some bank at the expense of NICO, so... as much as I know how ****** up this situation is, we need to curtail the threats and vigilante posse because it will only aid the real crooks if they decide to make a move and ruin everbody's day with a staged beatdown.

[PapaSmurf2k3]

THATS IT! Matt, go down to east ja bum**** whereever he is, beat the everliving **** out of yourself, and go to the cops and tell them that he scammed you, and when you confronted him he beat you up. Aparantly no laws exist in the USA except for ones dealing with bodily harm!

[s_13_steve]

Actually I think that embassy thing is a pretty good idea. You should do it mat. Also contact the local news stations, alot of news programs have segments about people who called in about how someone ****ed them and as soon as the news station shows up with the camera asking questions, the person who got the shaft magically gets their money or whatever from the d!ck that tried to screw them over. So try that route.

and Greg, I know I have a little while til I get back to Phoenix, but I would like to apply for the position of Enforcer for Nico, I think we know that I meet the requirements of the position

[kornaz]

News wont do sh1t for some 600 dollar scam. Do you know how many scams happen daily for even bigger money? Lol, hire a guy with a baseball bat an call it a day. Seriously, the US is such a bullcrap based country. If someone scams you, and no one gives a f***, you take it to your own hands, handle it, and then you would be sued for s***?? Gimme a break. Do it the right way -

[BlackDragon328]

look mat, I seem to be the only one who lives close to this walking piece of sh** so imma try to do something about it. I live in SB, thats about 2 1/2H from costa mesa if there is no traffic and I drive at the posted speed limit....since there is always traffic of some sort through LA and I've never managed to stay at the posted speed limit for more then 30secs at a time I think I'll probably get there in about....1.5H or better. I'll try to go within 2 weeks of today

I'm not after doing anything to the guy (I don't want to get in trouble nor to get nico forumz in trouble) I just want to know if he still lives there and or if he knows or cares that you want your money back....and that there are a few hundred people on nico who want to put him through a meat grinder nuts first :P

I agree with the suggestion a lil while ago to go to the US embassy in...whatever place in canada you live in. Embassys have almost unlimited power when it comes to working within their own country....seriously, its scary. so if you land on someone who actually decides to help you then he could make lif very dificult for our lil friend.on the other hand....no one will bother with you for 5 secs if you don't have good convincing proof that this indeed happened. so make sure you put everything you have together on your side INCLUDING the conversion you had with andres on nico and any other forumz/sites, the emails, the receipt you got from him...if any, and anything else wether you think it is relevent or not.

I really hope something works out for you man. don't let go of this yet tho, there is still some chance of you doing something and if you do nothing andre will just get someone else some other time.

peace

CJ

[PapaSmurf2k3]

After you do it up, post up your paypal account so we can give you some gas cash.

[180sxfaktory]

After you do it up, post up your paypal account so we can give you some gas cash.

Yeah, that's a good idea. Mat, it would also help your case if you can show this thread on NICO to the person at the consulate/embassy. Something that would be of further help would be a NICO point of contact who can provide some sort of proof of how many people have been scammed and the dollar amount. This seems like a lot of work again, but if you can go to the embassy/consulate with this baby all set to go, you should have some smooth sailing with them. A call from the US Embassy/Consulate to Costa Mesa PD will carry a buttload more weight, and believe me, someone will start making inquiries. Good luck, bro!

[AZhitman]

...and no more pictures of basebal bats r threats.

When/if someone shows up to visit Andre, they'll not be doing so because of this board or any discussion contained herein.

[CBCUSTOMS]

Im from Costa Mesa and I called three friends of mine to go and see if he's ok. I hope thats the right address.