S13 gauges/cluster not working??

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SilvyInside
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yeah, atleast it sounds like it.
where is this driver side kick panel?

edit
found it.
hidden things lol


SilvyInside
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fuses look good.
however the right side of the fuse panel, all fuses have power (tested them)
and the left side has none.

SilvyInside
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gunna cut clock wire (red/black) and splice into IGN (green) wire. I hope im doing this right lol

compactfean
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No, if you do that, your gauges will be on all the time and drain your battery. Green to red on the stereo. Red/black to yellow on stereo IF THE CLOCK DOESNT WORK. If it does, leave that wire alone.

SilvyInside
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Thanks, Im looking at the wires now lol.
cluster is out.
Im guessing i have to take apart my dash also to reach the stereo wires.

whats the easiest way to reach those wires.

btw I have a sub and amp also
thanks 4 the
prompt response

compactfean
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Just pull the stereo. Its faster and then just run the one wire you need up to the cluster. I am assuming your clock works? As far as the stereo wires I am NOT talking the chassis colors, they are different. Aftermarket stereos use the same color scheme so go by what colors are on the back of your deck.

SilvyInside
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yes, clock works, engine temp works. blinkers work, illumination works.

thats it, everything else is dead

SilvyInside
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Ill prob have to finish this tomm.
Last edited by SilvyInside on Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.

SilvyInside
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Ok I just need to pick up a wire or two

I got a quick splice, which has two openings on one end, and one opening on the other.

-So I will stick the red and green in the side with two openings.
-stick the new wire in on the other end (blue)
-crimp

connect the new blue wire to radio.

that sound right?

only problem is ....I wont have enough slack on the green wire.

SilvyInside
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for troubleshooting purposes.
how would I test the green wire for power without cutting?

compactfean
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Backprobe the pin with a multi meter and see if there is 12v with ign on.

SilvyInside
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on the multimeter, i have a red cable and a black cable.
which cable do i use, and where do i stick it

thanks again

SilvyInside
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ok got it....

one thing.
my green cable has 12 volts.....hmmm

compactfean
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Than that's obviously not your problem. What excactly are your gauges doing?

SilvyInside
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they dont move at (speedo, rmp, gas)

Engine temp works, lights work,

very rarely does the speedo kick in for a very short time, but its really wacky.

maybe replace the cluster?

SilvyInside
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another note.. the 4 screws behind the speedo..one of them is higher than the.. other three. going to tighten it

also heard, it could be the speed sensor..good times, lol

SilvyInside
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tightened the screw...no fix.
gunna look at the speed sensor next.

again thanks for everything, youre a big help, I owe you a beer

compactfean
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Speedo sounds like the teeth on the gear on the sensor. Rpm doesnt work because your car has a sohc tach with a dohc tach signal. (a 9117 auto meter tach adapter should drive the sohc tach.) The gas gauge might be the sending unit, but you would have to check the fsm procedure because that stays stock, with any swap so would be an oem diagnosis. They'd my thoughts on your setup.

SilvyInside
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I bought the car from a friend who built it.
So I really dont have prior knowledge and how everything was built.
Im actually very new to the nissan world.

1. speedo - replace sensor
2. RPM - buy an adapter? is there a DIY?
3.Gas, I didnt understand you.

compactfean
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Speedo-yes, replace sensor... (unless the gear id chewed up....then just replace the gear from nissan for $12)
Rpm- I was in the middle of a diy but soon realized I had 2 dohc clusters, so wasn't able to test my theory but I'm very confident it will work. Rather the adapter, or if you can find a dohc cluster.
Gas- the sensor in the tank. Rather the float, or the needle isn't making contact. Google how to fix fuel sending unit.

SilvyInside
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awesome.

As far as the sensor. Where is it located? I did some searching and there is ONE pic that came up, and it's very vauge.
Also, do I need to lift the car to reach it?

RPM - so just find /buy a DOCH cluster? know a good spot where I can buy one from?
I also have a JDM cluster that was given to me, but only one cable plugs in. The others are too big.

-Gas, ill check it out. not my main focus.

thanks!!

compactfean
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The jdm should fit directly. Or you can take the cluster apart and switch just the tach. The speed sensor is in the tail section of the transmission. Look in the fsm.

SilvyInside
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Image

theres the 2 clusters.

SilvyInside
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"Or you can take the cluster apart and switch just the tach"

how does that work? remove needle from soch and replace with the needle from DOHC?

SilvyInside
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tried swapping tachs. most be wrong cluster. tachs wont line up

SilvyInside
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dude prob bought a fake. going to buy a legit one.

compactfean
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Never mind. Your other cluster is a digital cluster. You would have to use the whole cluster with its sub harness.

SilvyInside
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compactfean wrote:Never mind. Your other cluster is a digital cluster. You would have to use the whole cluster with its sub harness.
found a Jdm regular one on ebay, a tad pricey, but a fix none the less.
hopefully.

now I needa locate this damn speed sensor lol

compactfean
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They usually go for $100. I got my tach adaptor for $80. A stock dohc you could probably get off the classifieds here. Hell I even have an extra dohc tach I could test and ship.

SilvyInside
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just bought the cluster. thanks for the offer though!
ill report back here, when it comes in.


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