CVT Transmission Issues. (Fail safe, Whining, Temps, & FIX!)

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5nissan
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I HAVE A 2014 ROGUE WITH 22000 MILES BOUGHT IT FEBRUARY 2014 ALTERNATOR WAS CHANGE SUMMER OF 2014
THEN RADIO WAS CHANGE IN JUNE OF 2015 BECAUSE THE REVERSE CAMERA CAME ON WITH OUT ME PUTTING ON REVERSE AND THE SCREEN WAS PURPLE WHILE ALL THIS WAS HAPPENING .
AND HERE IS THE BIG KICKER THE TRANSMISSION HAS TO BE REPLACE . WAS ON ROUTE TO VIRGINIA FROM NYC TO SEE MY DAD WHO IS SICK. FELT SLIGHT HESITATION WHILE DRIVING AT THE SPEED OF 65 TO 70 . ONCE I GOT TO MY DADS HOUSE IT WOULDN'T MOVE AFTER .NEXT MORNING MY BROTHER TOOK ME TO THE LOCAL NISSAN DEALER THEY SAID THAT I HAVE TO TOW IT THERE . WENT BACK TO THE HOUSE STARTED IT UP JUST TO SEE IF IT WILL MOVE AND IT DID . DROVE IT STRAIGHT TO THE DEALER WHILE IT WAS COLD . BUT ONCE I GOT CLOSER TO THE DEALER IT STARTED AGAIN .LEFT IT WITH THEM THEY CALL ME AND SAID THEY COULDNT FIND ANYTHING WRONG THEY CHECK THE CODES AND NOTHING SHOWED UP SO I WENT BACK AND TOLD THE TECH TO TAKE A RIDE WITH ME. WHILE IN THE CAR HE SAW WHAT WAS TALKING ABOUT THEN I MADE HIM DRIVE BACK .I LEFT AGAIN AND THEN THEY CALL ME BACK AND ITS THE transmission THEY HAVE TO ORDER THE PARTS


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Jimmy6
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2012 Frontier King-Cab (pop)
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So, I've had this issue happen to me... no biggie I guess. The array of comments/thoughts are quite diverse, but the issue doesn't seem to be youtube comments bad, though some maybe...

I have a 2009 Rogue S, which is a second owned from my mum, so I'm aware of all the work that went into it cuz it was either nissan dealer or our driveway. I had the first power-loss event at a stop-light during a right turn only lane situation where i didn't notice I was going as fast as i normally would when i hit the gas. The car corrected itself while driving and at the next stop, no issues. So maybe operator error.

Next time this happen was more like what the internet seems to suggest. I'm going down the freeway, from Houston to Austin in the Texas heat, this was just the weekend of aug 8. I noticed I wasn't accelerating anymore and slowing down quite a bit. I hit the gas and it gave me nothing, I floored it and barely any movement on the dials but enough juice for me to maintain some speed and hit the exit.

Was it scary? Eh, more like a 'what's going on' moment. Life threatening? I think a flat or blowout of a tire would be worst. I was just slow, using a lil momentum of 60 mph to get half a mile or so to the next exit. I had enough power to pull into the parking lot of the walmart/gas station strip. Shut it off and research on my phone. Let it cool off for about 10-15 minutes. Most had said if they turn off and turn on again, the situation corrected itself. I found it to be true. I made it to austin and back. On the way there, I stayed conservative, and in the right lane getting passed up several times. No biggie. On the way back, Bumblebee performed normally.

Bumblebee has 103k miles on it. And this is the first time ever it's given me any real trouble. (dead battery isn't the car's fault, o'reily honored their warranty on it). I don't pamper it, but I'm not totally wreckless. There are times I treat it as it was an Xterra PRO-4x and times I think it's my old Acura CL. Second to the mazda cx-5, I think it's one of the most 'athletic' in this 4cly CUV crowd. Just did the belt replacement, oil change and CVT fluid replacement. I ain't mad at Nissan. Texas heat is a bummer but it's gone this long without an issue. Granted I've been hit by a hit-n-run on the driver side when I parked in the street, left fender, headlight, panel were replaced/fixed at dealership, that was in 2014 but I wouldn't have any reason to think they went anywhere near the driveline.

That's just my share of my rogue adventure. Bumblebee isn't afraid of going fast on freeway or getting a little dirty and wet. I take care of the regular maintenance and it's all gravy. Overall, I'm pretty pleased. Glad the forums always have answers and solutions for when a problem does arise - =)

Blue Sky
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Car: 2008 Nissan Rogue

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Hey Guys,

So far no problems with my CVT thank God I have about 52,000 on my Rogue and I love this car and plan to keep it for a long time. It seems this whole CVT is a nightmare for people who been dealing with it. I was thinking in Investing in the:

Hayden®
High Performance Transmission Oil Cooler Kit
Nissan Rogue 2008, High Performance Transmission Oil Cooler Kit by Hayden®. 9/16" - 18 S.A.E. Flare Fittings, Tube and Fin Style. Featuring a lightweight aluminum construction, this high performance transmission oil cooler is...
All aluminum lightweight constructionElectrostatically powder coated to prevent corrosion.

In order to deal with the overheating problem and installing a trans. temp gauge to monitor the temperature of the transmission my question is where would I place the senor to get the most accuarte reading? and at what temp does the CVT go into limp mode/fail safe? I have done a couple of mods already to my Rogue as well I will have pictures sometime later this week or weekend. Thanks Guys. I'm a new member btw! This is my third post lol former Mazda owner and I must say that I do like Nissans quality had the car since 2008 and still running strong.

J Meredith
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I've read through several posts about the CVT transmission in the Nissan Rogue. I have a 2009 and had the transmission replaced in Feb. 2014. In July I began to have acceleration problems. I took it back to the dealership and was told that I was "driving it wrong". I found this strange, as I was driving it the same way I had for two years prior to the transmission being replaced. Now it was barely rolling forward during take-off, RPMs out the roof, and then suddenly shooting forward. the VDC would also kick in randomly. The service manager drove the car and told me that he saw a lot of people driving with one foot on the brake and one on the gas, and it confused the car. No idea why the VDC came on while HE was driving it, though. Kept the car, said he put it through diagnostics, reset the VDC and sent me on my way. The car continued to do this until cooler weather set in, although the VDC continued to do what ever it chose to.

This summer, I began having the same problems, only worse. Now I never know how much power I'm going to have. I may take off normally, then have the creeping forward/shooting forward for several start-stops. Not enough power to turn against traffic or pass another car. Then the next time I leave a red light, I have over acceleration and almost hit the car in front of me. I've contacted the owner of the dealership with the problem and have been told that the former mechanic is no longer with them and to bring the car in again, although she has no idea why it's behaving the way it is.

I've done a lot of research on the CVT and have read that numerous people are having the same problems. Today I was sitting in a fast food lane and a whirring should came from the front end and the VDC light came on. The acceleration was high today, actually putting me and my passenger against the seat until I was able to regulate it. I have an appointment with the dealership in the morning and will post the results. The bottom line here is, I don't feel safe driving this vehicle.

oldengineer
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I have a 2015 and the CVT/ECM system has a problem handling a situation where I'm stopped at a red light on an uphill road. Immediately after passing thru the intersection the road drops. The car is slow to respond to the up-down sequence and the engine rpm will temporarily jump up while the CVT seems to be hunting for a stable position. It only lasts a second or two but it's definitely noticeable.

jungle61
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I have a 2004 Nissan Maxima 3.5 SE My transmission was stuck in 5th gear. Had reverse and 5th only. Couldn't shift manually either. Fluid level is good and fluid is clean. What could cause this?

TrevorK
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jungle61 wrote:I have a 2004 Nissan Maxima 3.5 SE My transmission was stuck in 5th gear. Had reverse and 5th only. Couldn't shift manually either. Fluid level is good and fluid is clean. What could cause this?
You might have better luck posting in the Maxima forum - the Nissan Rogue uses a CVT transmission (the Maxima does not) which is a completely different technology.

Shovelready
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I have a 2012 Altima. I have 140k miles and last night the cvt while climbing a steep grade did not engage and the car red lined. When I got to the next town I noticed a burned rubber smell. The car has the whine you describe here. I have had the car go into safe mode one other time. I got the transmission serviced the next day. I have scheduled the service again. Does it sound like my cvt is shot? It still is running fine but the whine is still present and I smelled the burnt rubber again today even keeping rpms below 3k while driving. Please advise.

sdsnissan
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Car: 2008 Jeep Compass - CVT2 transmission

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Hi, I was doing some research on the Jatco transmission issues. I have a CVT2 in my 2008 Jeep Compass which I believe are the same transmissions used in certain model year Nissan vehicles.

I saw your post about the burning rubber smell. I have 78,000 miles on my compass and sometimes going up steep hills on the interstate, the tach goes to 3000 RPMs for a couple minutes while I'm going up the hill, I smell burning rubber. Since these transmissions have no rubber belts, I figured it was my serpentine belt doing that.

I haven't seen anyone else on other forums including Jeep Compass forums mention a burning rubber smell but I was wondering if this is an indication that my transmission is starting to go bad. My jeep has not had any transmission fluid replacement yet as the manual indicates the interval is 120,000 miles. I don't pull anything with my jeep either.

Has anyone else experienced the burning rubber smell?

Thanks

cmoak
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I have a 2009 Murano with 173,000 miles on it. I count my blessings that I still have the original CVT, although I have been experiencing problems with it for years. I live in the Colorado mountains. On long drives of more than an hour in the mountains when climbing grades at highway speeds, I sometimes get a loss of power. There would also be a horrible smell outside the car. If I stopped the car and turned it off for a while, the problem went away. After reading these forums and talking to the dealer, it sounded like the transmission was going into failsafe mode due to overheating. The dealer years ago told me that the transmission fluid did not ever need to be changed. After talking to my local mechanic, I had him change the fluid at about 150,000 miles. I continued to have problems after the fluid change.

I took it to the dealer only one day after one of these incidents and the only code he get from the computer said that the fluid level was off, but he told me that the level looked fine. ???? His brought up installing a cooler for the transmission, but he couldn't formally suggest that I install one (and he wouldn't do it) as Nissan does not make a cooler for the Murano. I bought a cooler and had my local mechanic install it. He also flushed the system at the same time and got a lot of gunk out of it.

I continued to have problems after the cooler was installed, although they seem a little different. When I am going uphill on a long drive, the car will get to about 4,000 rpm in a high gear ratio and then it won't shift from there. The problem goes away once I start going downhill. The transmission has not failed completely (yet), so am I am reluctant to put a new transmission in as the cost to do that is about how much the car is worth. Is there another way to fix this problem?

seaoats22852
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I bought my 2013 Nissan Rogue SL AWD with NAV system and BOSE Stereo/speakers in February 2013 that being said I just have 12,700 miles on it. I have been hearing the whining noise for some time maybe about a year not really an issue for me thinking it was nothing...but my son also has a 2013 Nissan he kept hearing the same whining noise took it to a dealer in Manassas, VA where we purchased by our Rogues. They said they were only seeing problems with the CVT on older models of Rogues. So he moved to Atlanta, GA in March of this year. On his Rogues the whinning was getting louder and more frequesnt so he took it to a Nissan dealer in Atlanta, GA a month or so ago and they installed the CVT cooling kit on his Rogue so far no whinning noise.

So my husband and I just back back from a 5 hour trip from Fredericksburg, VA to eastern NC and we heard the whinning noise off and off going and coming back home. I notice a slight hesitation when I slow down or come to a stop take off then it's okay. No codes or engine light coming on ever...So I decided I would take it to the closest Nissan dealer to us yesterday because of the whinning noise and slight hesitation in the acceleration (I also told them about my son's Rogue). I dropped it off and they called and said they ordered the CVT cooling kit said it will be in Next Tuesday, November 10th.

BTW I have an appointment with the NIssan dealer (Sheehy Mananssas) where I purchased my Rogue for my free oil change, check tires, fluids on Monday, 11/9. I will let them know I took it to the Nissan dealer closer to my house only 3 miles because it's so close. Will post back sometime next week after the CVT is installed on my Rogue.

I only owe about $3,742.03 on my Rogue I paid $25,000 in cash and I financed $7,500...I'm thinking of paying off the $3,742 and trading it in on a Kia Sorento which I was looking at before I decided on the Rogue in 2013. I am really disappointed in Nissan for not doing a Recall on these vehicles. I really love my car just bummed after reading this forum and the problem with the CVT transmission. :(

seaoats22852
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I'm back to say that Leckner Nissan only took 1 day to install the CVT Oil Cooling kit on my 2013 Nissan Rogue. I will be taking it for a ride on the highway this afternoon and so far I hear nothing :) They installed the CVT kit on my car Tuesday, Nov 3, 2015. I received a call from the service advisor earlier today and she was asking me how my car was I told her so far so good.

smplyoutrgous
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I have been having all kinds of issues with this for the last 8 months or so. I cannot get any help from the dealership. I have been trying to show them information and videos that I found on the internet. My car is BACK in the shop again as of Wednesday and I took my own videos this time along with providing them with the NTB14002 information. I haven't heard back from them yet, 2 days later. The "Check Engine Light" comes on, and they keep telling me that the code error that keeps coming back is related to low battery voltage and that all they need to do is charge the battery and everything will be fine. They refuse to acknowledge any other issues because they cannot replicate the issue. I have told them repeatedly that unless they intend to take my car on an extended road trip, drive it on a lot of hills or during extended high temperatures, that they will not be able to replicate it on their trip around the block. I do not know what else to do to get them to listen and correct the problem. I have actual footage of my car malfunctioning. Oh, and by the way, I'm a female...any suggestions here? I need to get this resolved. My car is almost not drivable most of the time now. It's a 2012 Nissan Juke SL and has about 88,000 miles on it. If I knew how to add a video to this post, I'd attach them. It's crazy what happens. One minute, the gas is all the way to the floor and the tach won't go above 3, and the speed doesn't go above 50mph and there's NO torque or power at all. The next minute, the RPM's are up so high, up into 5 and 6 and still can't get above 60 mph...and it sounds like it's going to blow up! But, if I stop and turn the car off for 5 minutes or so, it's like everything resets, cools down, goes back to normal like nothing ever happened! CVT Poltergeist!!!!
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darylzero
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smplyoutrgous wrote:I have been having all kinds of issues with this for the last 8 months or so. I cannot get any help from the dealership. I have been trying to show them information and videos that I found on the internet. My car is BACK in the shop again as of Wednesday and I took my own videos this time along with providing them with the NTB14002 information. I haven't heard back from them yet, 2 days later. The "Check Engine Light" comes on, and they keep telling me that the code error that keeps coming back is related to low battery voltage and that all they need to do is charge the battery and everything will be fine. They refuse to acknowledge any other issues because they cannot replicate the issue. I have told them repeatedly that unless they intend to take my car on an extended road trip, drive it on a lot of hills or during extended high temperatures, that they will not be able to replicate it on their trip around the block. I do not know what else to do to get them to listen and correct the problem. I have actual footage of my car malfunctioning. Oh, and by the way, I'm a female...any suggestions here? I need to get this resolved. My car is almost not drivable most of the time now. It's a 2012 Nissan Juke SL and has about 88,000 miles on it. If I knew how to add a video to this post, I'd attach them. It's crazy what happens. One minute, the gas is all the way to the floor and the tach won't go above 3, and the speed doesn't go above 50mph and there's NO torque or power at all. The next minute, the RPM's are up so high, up into 5 and 6 and still can't get above 60 mph...and it sounds like it's going to blow up! But, if I stop and turn the car off for 5 minutes or so, it's like everything resets, cools down, goes back to normal like nothing ever happened! CVT Poltergeist!!!!
:gotme
Talk to them again and tell them if they are not going to do anything you are going to call Nissan USA and show them the video and tell them how they did nothing to fix it. Either way tell Nissan USA about this.

creativepubtalk
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Just to say as a newbie to this forum, it is a really excellent source of amazing help and tips on these CVT issues, which obviously in the US and Canada has been much more widespread. I’m in the UK and have a 2009 X-Trail from new – the UK branded Rogue, with a 2.5L engine, 4WD and CVT. Been regularly serviced at a good Nissan dealer and only done around 33K miles. Probably worth saying, in the UK, auto-transmissions are generally the exception, and this model here is the top end for us and relatively few CVTs are sold, so Nissan dealers don’t have much experience with CVT problems and rarely see autos anyway. Also we don’t have the terrain, temperature differences and long distance, which over your side soon show up mechanical deficiencies due to inherent bad design or poor quality component manufacture. It strikes me, following the posts, that older Nissan model CVT problems have been an R&D issue which wasn’t picked up early enough but in the US there is a lot more clout with car manufacturers to get action taken. Love the car but have had CVT problems for the first time over the last month. Alerted by the dreaded whine, I grounded the car and on immediate inspection underneath, I noticed the CVT fluid had been leaking, slowly, since the last service 3 months before, but couldn’t see where from. After a struggle to check the fluid level (inane catch on the dipstick) it was not registering on the dipstick and booked it immediately into the dealer. 30 years ago I used to rebuild and race 3-litre Ford Capri’s, when mechanical life was much simpler, so I know a fair bit about cars enough to know this could be serious and expensive, and bought a 4L can of massively expensive correct NS-2 fluid from another Nissan dealer and topped up before using the car. All 4 litres took it to the bottom of the dipstick. That cured the whine, in fact the transmission felt much better generally than it had for years. I think I was lucky taking quick action to get fluid back in. I have never experienced fail-safe mode and was unaware of this issue – which sounds horrendous and dangerous. Fluid changes are not normally done as I am told, are not required in the service manual here – now thanks to the forum I know better. The Nissan technicians found the steel piping to the cooler had corroded and leaking, new parts from Europe were ordered and the car was fixed, needing another half-litre to get to the correct level. However 3 weeks on yesterday I smelt it after a 60 mile drive and the leak has returned, not much but definitely started again and it’s back to the Nissan dealer tomorrow and making me feel quite depressed. Cost last time was $500. In the UK, Nissan don’t offer the US 10 year/120K extended warranty for this period CVT and once out of the standard (here) 3 year/60K the cost falls all on the owner, which sucks as their cars anywhere in the world whether the US or the UK have the same issue!
I know this isn’t the fail-safe scourge but I understand CVT leaks on the Rogue and Murano have also been a major problem. Anyone with lots of experience of Nissan CVT problems got any advice about permanently curing this leakage problem – I’m hoping a pressure pipe wasn’t tightened enough and it’s simple – and not a CVT replacement, the cost of which is ludicrous ($8K) and more than the car is worth, unacceptable after 6 years and 33K mileage. Any auto-box should last at least 10 years and 120K mileage anywhere on the planet.

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While driving on the Mass Turnpike today, at speeds up to 70mph for an hour or so, I noticed a loss of power when attempting to accelerate up a (not so) steep hill. The car refused to go above 50, and I had to pull into the slow lane.
After doing some research I discovered that the CVT has an issue with the transmission fluid over heating and causing the transmission to go into "safe mode," preventing the car from shifting. I have an appointment with the dealer in the AM.

I guess my question is, with 54,000 miles on the car, and approaching the 60k that will put it out of warranty, should I trade it in? I have read horror stories where a car was brought in, the dealer found nothing wrong, and and around 70k miles the transmission went south.This after the car went out of warranty.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

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Cragzop wrote:While driving on the Mass Turnpike today, at speeds up to 70mph for an hour or so, I noticed a loss of power when attempting to accelerate up a (not so) steep hill. The car refused to go above 50, and I had to pull into the slow lane.
After doing some research I discovered that the CVT has an issue with the transmission fluid over heating and causing the transmission to go into "safe mode," preventing the car from shifting. I have an appointment with the dealer in the AM.

I guess my question is, with 54,000 miles on the car, and approaching the 60k that will put it out of warranty, should I trade it in? I have read horror stories where a car was brought in, the dealer found nothing wrong, and and around 70k miles the transmission went south.This after the car went out of warranty.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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Cragzop
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Cragzop wrote:While driving on the Mass Turnpike today, at speeds up to 70mph for an hour or so, I noticed a loss of power when attempting to accelerate up a (not so) steep hill. The car refused to go above 50, and I had to pull into the slow lane.
After doing some research I discovered that the CVT has an issue with the transmission fluid over heating and causing the transmission to go into "safe mode," preventing the car from shifting. I have an appointment with the dealer in the AM.

I guess my question is, with 54,000 miles on the car, and approaching the 60k that will put it out of warranty, should I trade it in? I have read horror stories where a car was brought in, the dealer found nothing wrong, and and around 70k miles the transmission went south.This after the car went out of warranty.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

UPDATE


The dealer said he will install the transmission cooler at no cost since the car in under warranty. I sure hope this fixes the problem, because I just got a great deal on a 2016 Mazda CX 5. I just don't know how much trade in value there is on my car.

garym5388
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Hi, new member here and i have an issue with my 2010 rogue with 86k miles, looking for some input.

While driving for about 20min on local roads my car stalled out when i came to a stop. On another day when i was driving on the highway for about 40min and i come to a stop and try to accelerate, nothing happened. Had to restart car both times. Went to the Dealer and he recommend trans and coolant exchange because trans fluid was pass service by 20k and the coolant had air pockets in the system. Could either of these cause my problem? And during a cvt fluid exchange do u have to reprogram the trans? Or is it just a drain and fill procedure?

I find it worry some that the service advisor told me that changing the cvt fluid would require them to reprogram the cvt. After researching i found that they dont need to be reprogrammed. Im feeling a bit unsettling now. Any advice.

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garym5388 wrote:Hi, new member here and i have an issue with my 2010 rogue with 86k miles, looking for some input.

While driving for about 20min on local roads my car stalled out when i came to a stop. On another day when i was driving on the highway for about 40min and i come to a stop and try to accelerate, nothing happened. Had to restart car both times. Went to the Dealer and he recommend trans and coolant exchange because trans fluid was pass service by 20k and the coolant had air pockets in the system. Could either of these cause my problem? And during a cvt fluid exchange do u have to reprogram the trans? Or is it just a drain and fill procedure?

I find it worry some that the service advisor told me that changing the cvt fluid would require them to reprogram the cvt. After researching i found that they dont need to be reprogrammed. Im feeling a bit unsettling now. Any advice.
In my experience, a coolant flush would not help with a problem like that. Air bubbles in the coolant will cause problems related to heat - such as over heating - so unless you have noticed an issue with the engine temperature (via your gauge) it would seem highly unlikely that an air bubble is causing your vehicle to stall. Further, most air pockets are solved without a flush, but by just adding coolant while the air bubbles out.

Many people here have changed their CVT fluid themselves, so they did not reprogram the CVT's computer. That said, I think you would need to know what the reprogramming does - and very few people outside of a Nissan Technician would be able to tell you. Perhaps there are some updates to the programming without the computer that they will be applying to optimize the performance and life of your transmission.


Did you pay the dealer to do an inspection on the vehicle or are they providing this advice without an inspection? If they are providing the advice without an inspection the most you can hope for is them to tell you to perform the regular maintenance and see if it happens again. If you pay for an inspection they should be able to tell you many things, such as the life of your CVT fluid, etc. that will determine whether the fluid is at fault. What I'm basically saying is - if you aren't paying for an inspection you will be unlikely to receive specific help unless it's a VERY common issue.

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I paid them $150 for diagnostic and felt like all they did was read me the service interval brochure. The service advisor was kinda shocked that i hadnt been there in 3 years, since i bought the car, for service. I had a had feeling that they didnt even brother to look at my initial complaint. Before the tech even checked my car the service advisor told me it mostly was the cvt fluid and coolant system that was causing my problem. Seemed To me the tech didnt know what he was doing or they just wanted the easy money. They recommended a new belt, which i already changed a while again and an alignment, when the car doesnt pull and no sign of wear on tires. They also took care of 2 recalls, ecm update and securing harness.

I went to add washer fluid later that day and noticed my air filter box wasnt properly closed. I took it as a sign of poor service from that dealership. The tech also seem a lil surprised that no work was goning to be done on the car.

Since it is passed the service interval im going to change the cvt fluid and bleed the coolant system. Noticed when i got the car back from them, it would blow hot air alot sooner. Im also going to clean the throttle body because i notice when i come to a stop the rpm would fluctuate between 400 and 900 rpm at times and the car would shack like its about to stall. Hopefully this fixes the accelerating and stalling problems because it's my wife's car and she drives it to work everyday.

i probably wont be going to that dealership again for service and thats where i bought the car.

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I would not recommend going to that dealership again either, it sounds like their goal is to just get you caught up on all the maintenance you have missed. Which, while a good idea, does not help you solve your actual problem. Unless it's having too much money - that will certainly help with that problem.

There is a step-by-step writeup on this forum on how to change the CVT fluid. Might be worth a read before attempting to do it yourself.

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I have a 2013 Altima 3.5SV. Since I drove it off the dealer's lot with 81 miles on it it has had intermittent electrical and mechanical issues. It has been in the dealership's shop 44 times and out of service 62 days so far. The CVT has been replaced twice, with the last one being 20,000 miles ago. From the day it was installed, the CVT belt has been whining very loudly. Now, the car is going into limp mode, but not throwing any codes or causing any warning lights to come on. Has had 3 Regional DTS reps try to fix it but they haven't been able to. They replaced 2 wiring harnesses that seems to have fixed constantly blowing light bulbs, but now I can only get 12.2volts at bulb socket.
Nissan Customer Care doesn't care one way or another whether the car performs or is safe. I'm having, now, to go to an outside mechanic that's willing to put a recorder on the car so maybe he can figure out what IS going on with the car.
My best advice to all who can't get Nissan to fix their cars is to hire an attorney and sue them. Maybe then, and only then, will Nissan honor its warranties and products!!!!

mattbel123
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Hey there, need some help on this one. I'm afraid to take it to the dealership because I don't want to be paying for something that they lie about. I usually go to a local mechanic that I know for everything. I just wanted answers on this one before I make a decision. I've had this car for 2 years now under a lease. The lease comes to an end on February 2017. The car has 24,000 miles on it. It's a 2013 Rogue AWD S Edition. I've been noticing for the past few months now that the car makes a whining siren type noise whenever I press the gas on the highway when going up a hill. Recently I've been watching the rpm and it usually hits around 3 to makes this noise and I'm usually going 65-70 mph. What could this noise be and what should I do? It still runs and it hasn't been giving me any performance problems but I do want it fixed soon. Thanks.

04pathse
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Well since it is a leased vehicle the repair will be done by the Nissan dealer at no charge to you.

mattbel123
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Wow, I didn't know that. So, I should obviously just take it to the dealer?

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dude, you have the typical cvt whine. relax. merging

arikannm
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I am so glad that I found this forum. I bought a used 2012 Rogue S in January with 67K miles. On Easter I was traveling home from a town that is about 75 miles south on I-25 where the Speed Limit is 75. I felt a loss of power about 5 miles from my city, while going up a moderate hill. I had this happen to me one other time in my PT Cruiser where I lost all power and had to pull off. This was not the case in Rogue, I still had power, but it felt like the Cruise Control speed had been cancelled.
I had to exit 3 miles inside of my city and had to make a left turn across traffic, with no light. The take off was so sluggish, I was afraid I wasn't going to make it prior to the oncoming traffic reaching me.
I started looking for the cause directly after, but was not successful as I wasn't sure what I was searching for. I didn't have this issue again so I figured it was a one-off and let it go.

Last week I made a trip from my city of Albuquerque to Las Vegas, NV. The drive to Flagstaff was fine. About 60 miles outside of Flagstaff (I-25) I started feeling the 'loss of power' and noticed that my Cruise Control was actually turning off. I was not able to go above 60 miles an hour for some distance. I had the pedal pressed all the way to floor board, but there was no change. I finally came to a degrade that lasted for ~6 miles. As I always do with degrades, I placed my car in Neutral and let it coast. I didn't have the issue at all the rest of drive or on the return drive.

As I bought my car used, and I am the third owner, I am unaware of the prior maintenance that occurred on the car. I have had the oil changed once and the brakes replaced (that part made me sick). At this point I have already put $300 in the car for the brakes and don't have the money to have a diagnosis of the CVT done with dealership.

From the posts I have read on here, I have yet to hear anything concerning a 2012. I did see there is a cooler for 2010 - 2013 Rogue models, and wanted to ask if anyone knows if that is a 'recall' item that would be covered by Nissan. I thought I had read that at some point. I am about to embark on a vacation to Arizona with a quick 2 day trip to Las Vegas in a little over a week and want to try and avoid any issues as much as possible as I will have my young child with me.

If anyone has that information, that would be amazing. It would be awesome if the OP would have the ability to reply since he is/was a Nissan service tech.

Thank you in advance for your help!!!

FantomLightning
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Arikannm, what you'll want to do is call around to your local Nissan dealers and see what they charge for a CVT Fluid change, and when they can get you in. The fluid service intervals on Rogues from what I recall are 30K for "hard service life" and 60K under normal conditions, so by any means you are over. There is a CVT cooler you can get, the likely hood of getting Nissan to cover that for you is next to none especially with the vehicle being outside it's powertrain warranty. Either way you would still need the fluid change. My advice would be with you living and driving in areas of high heat would be to have the CVT fluid changed ASAP, keep changing it at 30K intervals after that, and get the cooler when you can it will be a major help in keeping your CVT cool and insuring it has a long life. Just for an idea the CVT fluid change is $189.95 from my local dealer, however I'm in Ohio so YMMV. Your power loss is a symptom of the CVT overheating from the fluid being too degraded to properly cool the system, once you have the fluid changed you should see no further issues. Your vehicle is also mechanically identical to the 2008-2013 Rogue and 2014-2015 Rogue Select, anything you see in these forums relating to them also applies to your 2012.

arikannm
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I called a reputable dealer on Monday and took in my Rogue on Tuesday morning. Come to find out, the val-body (?) is bad and needs to be replaced. When I bought my Rogue I had enough smarts to buy the extended warranty. I am sure glad that I did. The service would've cost me almost $1200; with the warranty, it's $100. The cost to replace my CVT fluid is $199. More than I want to pay, but not too bad.
The additional cooling unit is something the service advisor stated could be already a part of the transmission. If it is, then no need to add an additional. If it isn't, then that avenue can be explored.

I believe I should be able to have the fluid replaced every 60K. In Albuquerque, we are the same elevation as Denver and only average 5 days a year where we have 100 degree temps and we don't have severe winters. Other than that, the summers are generally 98 degrees or less and winters are around 40 degrees.

I appreciate the help and feedback. I look forward to feel less concerned over my upcoming trip to Arizona and Las Vegas and feel confident that I won't have the issue with overheating that I had prior.


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