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I wouldn't expect toyota to make the new 86 that looks exactly like the old one with the boxy design and the old style hatch but just little styling cue's that accentuate the character of the 86. Idk throw in some molded fender flares, and maybe a little "wangan" style wing or something..

c'mon, you can make this look modern as hell you just have to use your imagination

I found this picture of a "new hachi-roku" and it looks like a hatch back is300 lol but i like how they did the roof line and such to make it look like an evolved hatch-back 86...not the most beautiful car i've seen but it could get worked in to


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HashiriyaS14 wrote:The 2ZZ is a great engine for track use, which is why it's in the Elise. I like it better than the B18C5, actually. Low end is irrelevant in engines like that, so there's little point in disparaging their high-strung characteristics.
2ZZ is great for cars that weigh nothing. I wasn't picking on it's high-strung nature. I was picking on the fact that even at 8200rpm it is still gutless.Even Elise owners in their featherweight cars complain about lack of power. My point was there's no way the teeny gutless 2ZZ is adequate for what will be a 3000+ lb modern 4 seat coupe. The Elise and Celica and MRS are one thing...this thing is a whole different story.

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RCA wrote:This was posted in the first page of the thread but did you hear the car shift in the video...

Sounded a little to quick to be a manual shift. Also what is with the C-45?4.5L? It definitely looks like a 4 cyls though.
It looks more like C-4S than C-45, but the youtube vid isnt all that clear.The C might be what Toyobaru is gonna badge its Boxer engines with,4 - 4 cylindersS - Direct injection, Thats what S used to mean on Toyota engines anyway.

Im sure poly is gonna release a high res version soon an we will be able to see it more clearly.

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:
2ZZ is great for cars that weigh nothing. I wasn't picking on it's high-strung nature. I was picking on the fact that even at 8200rpm it is still gutless.Even Elise owners in their featherweight cars complain about lack of power. My point was there's no way the teeny gutless 2ZZ is adequate for what will be a 3000+ lb modern 4 seat coupe. The Elise and Celica and MRS are one thing...this thing is a whole different story.
MRS's used a 1ZZ.

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Nali wrote:
It looks more like C-4S than C-45, but the youtube vid isnt all that clear.The C might be what Toyobaru is gonna badge its Boxer engines with,4 - 4 cylindersS - Direct injection, Thats what S used to mean on Toyota engines anyway.

Im sure poly is gonna release a high res version soon an we will be able to see it more clearly.
Solid analysis...I agree... with...Y..ou.

That was more dificult then I thought.

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SALVATION HAS ARRIVED.

HACHI-ROKU IS REBORN.





And just to show the size of the car,Here's a photoshop of the s2000 and the ft-86. I tried my best to have them up to scale!



Animated Gif: (Stops half way during the morph everytime to better see the differences)

Here's a 1280x800 wallpaper:



Enjoy!

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Nice. I honestly like it, which surprises me coming from Toyota. Even though I don't like the front, I could like the whole package if they'd just get rid of the pacman look by painting the a-pillars body color.

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looks cool but lets see the 20K dollar production car lol

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i for one like it. its still got a ways to come but i'll wait and see the production version. for those saying it doesnt look like a corolla, i disagree. it doesnt look too far off form the current 4 door corollas and where that design is headed. the back needs a little bit of a flare since the front flares some. the idea od a lightweight, rwd, cheap car is the spirit of the 86, i don't even mind the boxer engine. for little visual stimulation heres a photoshop of how a panda version should look if they ever come out with one

and of course with wats

these were shopped by former nico member and current 86 owner legacy of phoenix

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I'm still a Nico member.. :P I just don't own a 240 anmore >_<

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true you just havent been on nico in awhile

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Heres a request from white comet, metallic blue with Vs-xx wheels.


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Mr1der wrote:eh...I could see it wearing a tC on it in 3 years.
this. i think it's ugly and plays on the same boy racer styling cues as scion.

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i have good tastes cuz that came out awesome i also asked for the subtle trd sideskirt badge

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numbnuts240 wrote:
this. i think it's ugly and plays on the same boy racer styling cues as scion.


and they wonder why scion's sales are slumping

toyota is dead to me.......

and legacy; i couldn't believe jeff when you said you traded. but damn that 86 is gorgeous!!! post more pictures

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Anyone else notice the picture of Fuji Speedway on the gauge cluster?

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omg it's really there. was that necessary?

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numbnuts240 wrote:
this. i think it's ugly and plays on the same boy racer styling cues as scion.
Tito how dare you diss toyota. Puerto ricans can not hate toyota.

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hachiroku781 wrote:Tito how dare you diss toyota. Puerto ricans can not hate toyota.
that's not a real toyota. anyways, most of the faster drag cars in pr are dimes powered by sohc ka's

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im partial to the corollas powered by 12A. PR really shows that not only muscle cars mean drag racing.

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hachiroku781 wrote:im partial to the corollas powered by 12A. PR really shows that not only muscle cars mean drag racing.
x2. they pull some insane s*** down there. time to youtube some island drag races now...

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def dude. Yo tito not to sound like the creepy boyfriend i am to you but did you change your number?

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hachiroku781 wrote:def dude. Yo tito not to sound like the creepy boyfriend i am to you but did you change your number?
lol yeah. i didn't send you the new one?

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text it please?

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I'm clueless as to why people actually care about this. This car is so far from everything that made the Corolla GTS a good car. Everything about this car is what I hate about most new cars in general. The "86" in this prototypes name is just a gimmick derived to get people who have never driven or worked on an actual 86 excited. It's basically a fanboy ploy.

They want to release a real next-gen 86, give me the following:-A technologically stupid car (no fancy lights, only analog gauges, etc)-plain-Jane interior-3SGE motor-No more than 2500 lbs curb weight-option for crank windows-No bigger than 15 inch wheels stock-no plastic motor garnish anywhere under the bonnet

I can keep going but it's a moot point. This idea by Toyota is misguided.

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flohtingPoint wrote:
They want to release a real next-gen 86, give me the following:-A technologically stupid car (no fancy lights, only analog gauges, etc)-plain-Jane interior-3SGE motor-No more than 2500 lbs curb weight-option for crank windows-No bigger than 15 inch wheels stock-no plastic motor garnish anywhere under the bonnet

I can keep going but it's a moot point. This idea by Toyota is misguided.
All of this is so unrealistic for a $20k car nowadays. If thats what you want, then go buy an Elise. 2500lbs is even lighter than the current Miata. And I assume you still want back seats?

They'll have to use exotic materials to get the wieght down that low and still make the car liveable for a DD. And that will drive up the price.

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All of this is so unrealistic for a $20k car nowadays. If thats what you want, then go buy an Elise. 2500lbs is even lighter than the current Miata. And I assume you still want back seats?

They'll have to use exotic materials to get the wieght down that low and still make the car liveable for a DD. And that will drive up the price.
Saving cash on a totally plain interior and no gadgets can drop that price quickly.

1st gen Golf weighted in at a smidge over 2100. 2500 is not much to ask for as there is quite a bit of wiggle room in 400 lbs. Car companies have little excuse at putting out the pigs they do these days.

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flohtingPoint wrote: Car companies have little excuse at putting out the pigs they do these days.
from what i've heard... could be wrong... but its a government regulation that they weigh more now so that they are 'safer'

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PEZi720 wrote:from what i've heard... could be wrong... but its a government regulation that they weigh more now so that they are 'safer'
I love how the government wants to make everyone safe even if they are unhappy. Problem is they don't want the liability. I'll sign a waiver, give me what I f*cking want!!

If I wanted safe I'd be driving a Volvo.


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