Rear Mount Turbo is very effective.

[evildky]

Ugh, what a bunch of idiots in this thread.

btw, that $200 made in china turbo won't last too long.... lol

it might be a cheap turbo and it is definitely small for the application but you don't have to throw a lot of money out to make power, hotrodding started because of people making their own performance parts, evreyone seems to think you have to buy application specific performance parts, and rear monted turbo's have been rund a long time, it's nothing new, just new this application, most people would pay more and get a TT clip and would be happy as everyhing is intended to work together and you don't have to figure anything out, when you make you're own path it requires a lot more time and energy and you must educate yourself and figure out what can work and how to make it work

[gpelite]

What do you expect from N00bs

[mtcookson]

hotrodding started because of people making their own performance parts

I've even read about a guy who took the heads off of his engine, put them on the ground, hooked some chains on to them and had his friend drag them while he stood on them to shave off some material for higher compression. I'm not joking.

[Vilmenay]

oil pump SHURflo PN 8000-643-236

[Zak427]

reading this thread gave me a crazy idea... quad turbo ZBasically ....A TT Z with smaller quick spool up turbos on the engine with huge 800 type or more snail shells in the back. better build up those internals...it maybe something i may try lol...that would be just outragouse

[DunnJH4]

Outrageous, but so friggin awesome. I'd like to see how all the pipes and lines would run together in the engine bay. Do it and I'll give you a high five

[evildky]

I have seen 8 turbo's on a V8, not that the same results couldn't be achieved with fewer turbo's it's mostly about wow factor, the only limit if your imagination, and if you don't try you sure won't succeed

[V8 Hunter]

I am Located in TN just south of nashville. The shop I work for have done rear mounted turbos on a crap ton of cars! We have even done a Z! I have TWO Z32 TT's ONE of which has a rear mount turbo VERY CLEAN Install No cutting required. I had an SP57 turbo on it first. Now the car is almost done with a 7 month long engine build... *sighs.. I have an SP67GTQ going on it. should be in the Mid 500's to the wheels.. I do ALOT of road racing so im not trying to build a high horse power monster.. Our shop has put turbos on alot of cars that you would never expect to have them on.. Though the installs are very professional and we sell alot of high end kits, we build alot of custom systems too...we also tend to stay with the Garrett GT series turbos. I have seen the best and the worst kits roll through our shop. Im giving this guy an A for effort! He did it on his own, and it WORKS! though it does'nt look great and the turbo is not going to last very long ..He still made it work so you cant hate on him... I dont see anyone else on here with a REAR MOUNT? lol.. I'll have to get some pics up here of mime once I get the engine gets back in the car... The kit on my car if you priced everything out i have about $4,000.00 in it... it will support 650RWHP and I should see full boost by 4,000RPM's keep in mind my engine spins 8,500RPM's lol... So i'll have plenty of power band! More on it later..

to the guy with the rear mount Z.. Nothing negative intended here, but for your reference. Those ebay turbos, man you get what you pay for, so dont expect that thing to hang on for long. and the wastegates on them are crap! I can tell you ,you have WAY too much back presure on the turbine because the turbo is so small.. you dont have to run more boost, but you need a bigger turbo.. and some more fuel... your setup would work well with a t3/t4 57trim with a stage V EXHAUST HOUSING... If you want more info on this set up your car let me know i'll shoot you some info.. and If you have any questions man i'd be glad to shoot you some advice or help troubleshoot any problems you might be having...

Peace to all! V8 Hunter

[Vilmenay]

I think many of the members who responded to this thread don't realize that I did my share of research before starting this project. I've owned several muscle cars a z28, a 442 cutlass with a 455big block and even had the opportunity of owning a Grand National. I've swapped out engines, transmission's, rear ends, suspensions, and even did body work on the cars I've owned right in my own to car garage. So as a weekend wrencher I have a measure of experience just tinckering around stuff. Yes hotrodding if you will. I think some are missing the point of why I did this remote mount turbo. Of course there are shops that sell and install kits that one can buy for several thousands of dollars. My goal was to build my own turbo set up for a fraction of that cost. Yes, it's not a polished setup , but guess what? Unless you actually look underneath the car you can't even see it, so it really doesn't matter. And if I spent upwards of $5000 or so of course I'd expect the set up to look professional and clean. But here are the two important questions? Does my set up work? Yeah it really does. It improved the reponse of my car on the top end and with it's acceleration. Is the turbo I chose cheap? Of course it is! The whole point was to be freugal. Listen to this, I actually called Garretts tech line and asked them for their opinion about boosting an N/A Z. Their response was that car would detonate, but if they had to choose a turbo they suggested 63af /60t /60. The reason being quick spool up, safe boost levels and it would be rpm sensitive. That it what I'm currently running in my set up. As for durability of the turbo, well this car is not my daily driver, but my weekend toy. So if the turbo being an aftermarket knock off should someday blow out is not a Loss. I can get another for under $250, which is actually less then having one rebuilt. To me the math makes sense to boost my car : $800 and have the knowledge that my know how pulled it off myself?Versus $4000 and let someone else do it for me all professional and clean? Yes you get what you pay for, but If am quite pleased with the results of my set up, which would you have choosen? $800 or $4000?
Modified by Vilmenay at 9:09 AM 2/22/2007

[freakonaleash1187]

I respect you for what you have done because it is one hell of a project to make a rear-mount turbo on a Z for $800. But I rather pay $3k-$4k and have a VG30DETT in there.

[nsrZ32]

I respect you for what you have done because it is one hell of a project to make a rear-mount turbo on a Z for $800. But I rather pay $3k-$4k and have a VG30DETT in there.

Me too, for a million different reasons. But for homebrew and on a budget, his setup gives him a little oomph. Plus as long as he's happy with it then its all good

[clickdoc]

hey

great job on your rear mount turbo -- i have been thinking about doing that myself with STS more expensive universal system -- however i can't find anyone in the chicago land area that will do it -- any ideas out there guys ??

thanks

terry

[clickdoc]

one more question -- would it be possbile in a rear mount turbo to keep your muffler -- i have the best looking mufflers on the planet & i hate to part with them ??

thanks

[supreamS14]

Its guys like you who give us poor guys hope! This sounds like a great idea for a Na Z! Poor guys like me get a better sense of accomplishment knowing you dont have 2 be rich and spend 8 grand for a tt swap when I could make a coustome rearmount tt for around $1800(Ide spring the extra $$$ for garrett and twins).

Is there thicker a H/G for the VG30de to lower the commpreshion?

[Mossive]

interesting read....not something i would do for sure but to each there own

[dsagers]

I am Located in TN just south of nashville. The shop I work for have done rear mounted turbos on a crap ton of cars! We have even done a Z! I have TWO Z32 TT's ONE of which has a rear mount turbo VERY CLEAN Install . If you want more info on this set up your car let me know i'll shoot you some info.. and If you have any questions man i'd be glad to shoot you some advice or help troubleshoot any problems you might be having...

Peace to all! V8 Hunter

V8 hunter, any chance you'd do a write up for us, give us some pointers on making a clean install, share some of your experience?

[nsrZ32]

Just when I had hoped this thread was dead and gone.....

[Mossive]

im goin to hijack this thread cuz its a worthless thread

DSagers which high school did you go to? my college roomate went to brighton rich punk

[qsiguy]

I'm going to "rehijack" this thread because rear mount turbos are awesome!

Thought I'd add my info to this thread as I just got my turbo Q45 on the road with a rear mount Master Power T70. I'd like an update on your 300Z project, how is it running, how is the tuning going, etc. Also I'd like to see a few more pics where the tubing goes into the engine bay.



Here's my write up from the Q45 forum.zerothread?id=281662

[2 Coupes]

has anyone done before and after effects of this rear mount turbo setup? I would be interested in the difference in dyno numbers with this. I wonder what type of effects adding a FMIC would have on the numbers after the FI air has had to travel the whole length of the car.

[qsiguy]

I'll be doing the dyno after I get it tuned as good as I can without the dyno. I have dual stage boost controller so I can get numbers at two boost settings.

Most rear mounts don't have a FMIC because the intake temps are lower due to the distance as well as the cooler turbo temps. I will most likely be adding one in the future. Trying to get all the loose ends tied up and some basic tuning done first.

[Zwicked]

That's pretty cool. What's the boost lag like with all that plumbing?I think if you replaced that rubber looking hose, change out those pipes that have wrinkles in the and remove some of the abrupt angles, you would gain quite a bit.Nice job though, it's nice to see people come up with innovations when modding.

[qsiguy]

Don't know about the 300Z, I'd like to know more about it myself. I can tell you I don' t have much lag at all, much less than other turbo's I've been in like a Porsche 930 turbo and a Mitsu. Evo.

[MiiLaNo]

I think many of the members who responded to this thread don't realize that I did my share of research before starting this project. I've owned several muscle cars a z28, a 442 cutlass with a 455big block and even had the opportunity of owning a Grand National. I've swapped out engines, transmission's, rear ends, suspensions, and even did body work on the cars I've owned right in my own to car garage. So as a weekend wrencher I have a measure of experience just tinckering around stuff. Yes hotrodding if you will. I think some are missing the point of why I did this remote mount turbo. Of course there are shops that sell and install kits that one can buy for several thousands of dollars. My goal was to build my own turbo set up for a fraction of that cost. Yes, it's not a polished setup , but guess what? Unless you actually look underneath the car you can't even see it, so it really doesn't matter. And if I spent upwards of $5000 or so of course I'd expect the set up to look professional and clean. But here are the two important questions? Does my set up work? Yeah it really does. It improved the reponse of my car on the top end and with it's acceleration. Is the turbo I chose cheap? Of course it is! The whole point was to be freugal. Listen to this, I actually called Garretts tech line and asked them for their opinion about boosting an N/A Z. Their response was that car would detonate, but if they had to choose a turbo they suggested 63af /60t /60. The reason being quick spool up, safe boost levels and it would be rpm sensitive. That it what I'm currently running in my set up. As for durability of the turbo, well this car is not my daily driver, but my weekend toy. So if the turbo being an aftermarket knock off should someday blow out is not a Loss. I can get another for under $250, which is actually less then having one rebuilt. To me the math makes sense to boost my car : $800 and have the knowledge that my know how pulled it off myself?Versus $4000 and let someone else do it for me all professional and clean? Yes you get what you pay for, but If am quite pleased with the results of my set up, which would you have choosen? $800 or $4000?

Modified by Vilmenay at 9:09 AM 2/22/2007

RESPECT!

[Kckouki]

Correct me if im wrong but arent turbo set-up's like this popular with corvette owners?

Yup, my Buddy has one on a black zo6, STS Turbo kit, he said he paid 15k, installed and all.

[BigTDogg (MA)]

Yup, my Buddy has one on a black zo6, STS Turbo kit, he said he paid 15k, installed and all.

[Kckouki]

See somthing funny ?

[BigTDogg (MA)]

15k, installed and all.

Hope he got a reach-a-round for that!

[demonyoka420]

Hope he got a reach-a-round for that!

lolol

[jaym5k]

Hey guys, I bought the rear mount turbo Z from the previous owner that started this thread. He blew his motor so then I bought it and have been putting everything back together. The guy should be done with-in a month and I will be putting up some pictures/ vids.