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audtatious wrote:And it's not surprising that Obama would make the statements he made even though he stated he didn't have all the details.
Well that is more forgivable than what the police did. The police is the reason an innocent concerned model citizen it getting all sorts of hate mail and threats. So Obama was right, the police did act stupidly. Not because they arrested gates, but because they threw one of their own citizens under the political bus.


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Kohster wrote:Well that is more forgivable than what the police did. The police is the reason an innocent concerned model citizen it getting all sorts of hate mail and threats. So Obama was right, the police did act stupidly. Not because they arrested gates, but because they threw one of their own citizens under the political bus.
The 911 caller is getting the same, as is the officer.

This is a two way street. Don't try to play like only one side's crap stinks. Crap is crap, and it stinks.

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Nope.

She didn't state during the 911 call that they were Black (which was what all the hubbub was about).

She DID state, when police arrived at the scene, that the person was Black. She also described their attire. That's kinda what you do when you're describing someone, and it's perfectly appropriate. Gender, race, clothing, height, etc.

You're seriously gonna blame the POLICE for her getting threats? Not the idiot racist morons who are threatening her? Wow. Talk about shifting the blame...

If there was any lying, they'd be all over it. There's not. What we DO have (and have had all along), is more manufactured racism from a bunch of people who can't seem to find a way to navigate society to their advantage, and cry "racism" at every available opportunity.

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AZhitman wrote:She DID state, when police arrived at the scene, that the person was Black.
Like the quote in my post stated, The 911 caller stated at a press conference that she made no such description. She also made it clear that she NEVER had a conversation with Crowley. I don't understand why you believe she spoke with the police and described the suspect as a black man since it never happened.

Also, "Cambridge Police Commissioner Robert C. Haas has said that the police report is a summary, with descriptions - like the race of the two men - being collected during the inquiry and not from the initial 911 call."

http://www.boston.com/news/loc...e_say/

I do blame the people themselves obviously who are making the threats and such, but the police were absolutely instrumental in the terrible treatment of the 911 caller.
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Maybe you should become more aware of the police report itself instead of second hand assumptions:http://www.thesmokinggun.com/a....html

The error in this case is that Gates was arrested for shouting and being disorderly when state law says that is allowable. In most other states Gates would have been guilty of a crime.

So, you have a black man who immediately starts shouting racism when being questioned by a white person. Sounds pretty common in today's environment where the race card is used for preferred treatment.

Obama was stupid for his statement without being aware of the details. No, you can't convince me that he was aware of the law either.

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old english and colt 45 :D

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Kohster wrote:She also made it clear that she NEVER had a conversation with Crowley.

I don't understand why you believe she spoke with the police and described the suspect as a black man since it never happened.
See, there's where you're getting confused.

Just because she didn't speak with Crowley doesn't mean she didn't talk to the police.

In fact, the article states she DID say, when pressed, that one of them "...might be Hispanic".

Critical thinking skills are the hallmark of a good investigator. You're not.

The police were absolutely NOT instrumental in the terrible treatment of the 911 caller. To lay any blame on them for the actions of a bunch of hateful, misinformed idiots, is ludicrous.

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When did saying the word "black" become so similar to the N word. It seems that any mention of race, especially THAT race, always ends in some kind of drama. Usually drama that is perpetuated by the afformentioned "black" people.

Anyone, besides me been through, Cambridge? It's an extremely expensive area to live. When someone is smashing down the front door...people notice. Race has nothing to do with this entire incident. It was introduced by the "black" man himself. By grand standing about his mistreatment. Here's a tip, when cops show up to your door "professor" explain things calmly and rationally...or get arrested.

Where's HASH and his coffee vs capacino drinking comparison between educated Liberals vs uneducated Conservatives. I'd say this one kinda blows holes all through that line of idiocy Hash.

Ignorance and the perpetuation of ignorance will always plague this nation.

Brand me a racist if you want...I fit the bill pretty well.

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AZhitman wrote:
Just because she didn't speak with Crowley doesn't mean she didn't talk to the police.
nope she stated she did not speak to the police

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She's white, of course she lies....Duh

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huh?

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It's the generic answer to everything and supports both your point and Greg's.


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AZhitman wrote:Yep.

Thinking before speaking.

Isn't THAT what the libbies lambasted GWB for not doing?

Hmmmmm.....
From the peanut gallery--> AMEN! lol


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