Really, Mr. President?

A place for intelligent and well-thought-out discussion involving politics and associated topics. No nonsense will be tolerated at all.
User avatar
Bubba1
Moderator
Posts: 16082
Joined: Wed Oct 30, 2002 1:42 pm
Car: 2003 Nissan 350z
2024 Honda HR-V
2008 Toyota Corolla S
2001 Toyota Avalon XLS

Post

AZhitman wrote:
I'm sure both parties could have done things differently, but my beef is with the Prez putting himself in a precarious position. He SHOULD have said, "I don't really know enough about the situation to comment."
That pretty much sums my view. Its disappointing that Obama chose to make a ill-advised statement like that despite admitting up front he didn;t even know the facts. I would have preferred to see him apologize to the police dept for the remark, but with the press fanning the flames incessantly, it's probably better for him to walk away quickly and let it die down.

I don;t know how long Gates had lived in that house, but if he had been living there awhile, it seems odd that his neighbors had no idea who he was when they called the cops for breaking in.


User avatar
Kohster
Posts: 258
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:23 am
Car: WRX STI

Post

This "issue" is just a smoke screen. Ignore it.

User avatar
themadscientist
Posts: 26254
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:30 pm
Car: R32 GTR, DR30 RS Turbo, BRZ, Lunchbox, NSR50 Sportster 883 Iron
Location: Staring down at you with disdain from the spooky mountaintop castle.

Post

I'll decide what I pay attention to, thank you.

Barry invited the cop and the prof to the white house. I hope the cop tells him to stick it.

User avatar
Bubba1
Moderator
Posts: 16082
Joined: Wed Oct 30, 2002 1:42 pm
Car: 2003 Nissan 350z
2024 Honda HR-V
2008 Toyota Corolla S
2001 Toyota Avalon XLS

Post

themadscientist wrote:I'll decide what I pay attention to, thank you.

Barry invited the cop and the prof to the white house. I hope the cop tells him to stick it.
I'd like to see that happen too but I'm sure the cop will attend. I think Obama will put on a rehearsed dog and pony show of reconciliation in an attempt to save face for the political blunder he made..

Obama was correct in that the incident was a teaching moment. And that lesson is STFU at a national press conference until you learn the facts.

The other lesson is get off your arse and get to know your neighbors. HAd they known who he was, the police would not have been called in the first place.

User avatar
WDRacing
Moderator
Posts: 15983
Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2002 2:00 am
Car: 95 240SX, 99 BMW 540i, 01 Chevy Express, 14 Ford Escape
Location: MFFO
Contact:

Post

Bubba1 wrote:
I'd like to see that happen too but I'm sure the cop will attend. I think Obama will put on a rehearsed dog and pony show of reconciliation in an attempt to save face for the political blunder he made..

Obama was correct in that the incident was a teaching moment. And that lesson is STFU at a national press conference until you learn the facts.

The other lesson is get off your arse and get to know your neighbors. HAd they known who he was, the police would not have been called in the first place.
I hope the Professor turns out to be a prior Black Panther and while at the White House starts a huge racial incident WITH the same cop. Since everything in the WH is on camera, we can finally have a national media event where we can all see that racial poopyhead comes from more then us white folk.

Then I want the Cop to sue everyone in the entire Gov...and be awarded a 740 billion dollar settlement that the rich white folk of America will pay for by raising their taxes.

If we try hard enough, we can destroy this entire country before the next election.

User avatar
smockers83
Posts: 3889
Joined: Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:07 pm
Car: 2006 G35 Coupe

Post

WDRacing wrote:If we try hard enough, we can destroy this entire country before the next election.
But the Mayan calendar ends a month after elections...

User avatar
audtatious
Moderator
Posts: 25014
Joined: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:31 pm
Car: 2017 Q60 Red Sport. Gone: 2014 Q50s, 2008 G37s coupe, 2007 G35s Sedan, 2002 Maxima SE, 2000 Villager Estate (Quest), 1998 Quest, 1996 Sentra GXE
Location: Stalking You
Contact:

Post

That's when the far left realize that wood fires, which pollute the environment, are a necessity and they decide to say "fuk mother earth" and do it anyway. PETA members will be right beside them eating some poor dog they trapped.

User avatar
Kohster
Posts: 258
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:23 am
Car: WRX STI

Post

dusred wrote:
Where does it say that? It says his comment was bla bla bla. We don't know weather he was asked about it or weather he brought the thing up.
You should really inform yourself before making a post. It was clear that he was asked about the incident, he did not bring it up.

And the word is whether

User avatar
audtatious
Moderator
Posts: 25014
Joined: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:31 pm
Car: 2017 Q60 Red Sport. Gone: 2014 Q50s, 2008 G37s coupe, 2007 G35s Sedan, 2002 Maxima SE, 2000 Villager Estate (Quest), 1998 Quest, 1996 Sentra GXE
Location: Stalking You
Contact:

Post

Grammar Police, huh?

User avatar
szh
Posts: 15932
Joined: Tue Jul 23, 2002 12:54 pm
Car: 2018 Tesla Model 3.

Unfortunately, no longer a Nissan or Infiniti, but continuing here at NICO!
Location: San Jose, CA

Post

audtatious wrote:Grammar Police, huh?
Do they profile?

Z

User avatar
audtatious
Moderator
Posts: 25014
Joined: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:31 pm
Car: 2017 Q60 Red Sport. Gone: 2014 Q50s, 2008 G37s coupe, 2007 G35s Sedan, 2002 Maxima SE, 2000 Villager Estate (Quest), 1998 Quest, 1996 Sentra GXE
Location: Stalking You
Contact:

Post

I hope not cuz that would be worse than a drive by

User avatar
AZhitman
Administrator
Posts: 54538
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:04 am
Car: 58 L210, 63 Bluebird RHD, 64 NL320, 65 SPL310, 66 411 RHD, 67 WRL411, 68 510 SR20, 75 280Z RB25, 77 620 SR20, 79 B310, 90 Z32, 91 GTi-R, 92 Silvia Qs, 98 S14, 23 Z.
Location: Surprise, Arizona
Contact:

Post

....aaaaaand, while I'm out of town, the President backpedals.

My work here is done.


User avatar
Bubba1
Moderator
Posts: 16082
Joined: Wed Oct 30, 2002 1:42 pm
Car: 2003 Nissan 350z
2024 Honda HR-V
2008 Toyota Corolla S
2001 Toyota Avalon XLS

Post

AZhitman wrote:....aaaaaand, while I'm out of town, the President backpedals.

My work here is done.
Okay, Obama is having both parties over for a beer. Any guess as to the brand he'll serve?


User avatar
AZhitman
Administrator
Posts: 54538
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:04 am
Car: 58 L210, 63 Bluebird RHD, 64 NL320, 65 SPL310, 66 411 RHD, 67 WRL411, 68 510 SR20, 75 280Z RB25, 77 620 SR20, 79 B310, 90 Z32, 91 GTi-R, 92 Silvia Qs, 98 S14, 23 Z.
Location: Surprise, Arizona
Contact:

Post

I am SO not falling for that.....

OK, what the hell.

King Cobra and PBR.

Let the whining commence!!!!

User avatar
audtatious
Moderator
Posts: 25014
Joined: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:31 pm
Car: 2017 Q60 Red Sport. Gone: 2014 Q50s, 2008 G37s coupe, 2007 G35s Sedan, 2002 Maxima SE, 2000 Villager Estate (Quest), 1998 Quest, 1996 Sentra GXE
Location: Stalking You
Contact:

Post

Schlitz 40

User avatar
srellim234
Posts: 2710
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:12 am
Car: 2007 Nissan Versa SL hatch w/CVT
(sold 08/2011)
2008 Toyota Prius
(purchased 04/2016)
Location: Laughlin, NV

Post

MSNBC reported tonight that Gates doesn't drink beer. Maybe they'll settle on a nice chablis or zinfandel.

User avatar
audtatious
Moderator
Posts: 25014
Joined: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:31 pm
Car: 2017 Q60 Red Sport. Gone: 2014 Q50s, 2008 G37s coupe, 2007 G35s Sedan, 2002 Maxima SE, 2000 Villager Estate (Quest), 1998 Quest, 1996 Sentra GXE
Location: Stalking You
Contact:

Post

MadDog 20/20

User avatar
Urabus GodofTraction
Posts: 6178
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:36 pm
Car: 2002 Subaru WRX Wagon
2004 Suzuki SV650
1988 Toyota Land Cruiser
1994 Honda XR600R

Post

Steel Reserve!

User avatar
BusyBadger
Posts: 3753
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:20 pm
Car: '92 Nissan 240SX
'05 Nissan 350Z
'13 Nissan Juke
Contact:

Post

The Sam Adams brewery should jump all over this since it took place in Cambridge. But...

...since PBO is Chitown guy there could always be some Goose Island served, or if he wants to align it with his socio-economic beliefs he could have some Fischer Labelle or even Tsingtao.

User avatar
Bubba1
Moderator
Posts: 16082
Joined: Wed Oct 30, 2002 1:42 pm
Car: 2003 Nissan 350z
2024 Honda HR-V
2008 Toyota Corolla S
2001 Toyota Avalon XLS

Post

How about Yuengling BLACK and TAN ???

User avatar
themadscientist
Posts: 26254
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:30 pm
Car: R32 GTR, DR30 RS Turbo, BRZ, Lunchbox, NSR50 Sportster 883 Iron
Location: Staring down at you with disdain from the spooky mountaintop castle.

Post


User avatar
Kohster
Posts: 258
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:23 am
Car: WRX STI

Post

audtatious wrote:Grammar Police, huh?

User avatar
AZhitman
Administrator
Posts: 54538
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:04 am
Car: 58 L210, 63 Bluebird RHD, 64 NL320, 65 SPL310, 66 411 RHD, 67 WRL411, 68 510 SR20, 75 280Z RB25, 77 620 SR20, 79 B310, 90 Z32, 91 GTi-R, 92 Silvia Qs, 98 S14, 23 Z.
Location: Surprise, Arizona
Contact:

Post

Bubba1 wrote:How about Yuengling BLACK and TAN ???
WIN.

User avatar
AZhitman
Administrator
Posts: 54538
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:04 am
Car: 58 L210, 63 Bluebird RHD, 64 NL320, 65 SPL310, 66 411 RHD, 67 WRL411, 68 510 SR20, 75 280Z RB25, 77 620 SR20, 79 B310, 90 Z32, 91 GTi-R, 92 Silvia Qs, 98 S14, 23 Z.
Location: Surprise, Arizona
Contact:

Post

BTW, the original 911 caller (who reported the "burglary") has been the target of hate and ridicule.

Why?

She NEVER ONCE said the person entering the house was Black.

Yet those who would ENCOURAGE division and LOOK FOR racism at every opportunity have treated her terribly.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/n...N.htm

So, to anyone who lipped off at her for calling the police, here's my message to you: Screw you.

We don't need you making matters any worse than they are. Quit ASSUMING things.

That goes for you too, Mr. President.

User avatar
WDRacing
Moderator
Posts: 15983
Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2002 2:00 am
Car: 95 240SX, 99 BMW 540i, 01 Chevy Express, 14 Ford Escape
Location: MFFO
Contact:

Post

AZhitman wrote:
That goes for you too, Mr. President.
Which is exactly why the people should be furious with his statement AND actions. You're telling me that the POTUS can't recognize when he should STFU on live media? That's simple inexperience in true form right there. If it's not rehearsed he sucks at it. Nice...

User avatar
AZhitman
Administrator
Posts: 54538
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:04 am
Car: 58 L210, 63 Bluebird RHD, 64 NL320, 65 SPL310, 66 411 RHD, 67 WRL411, 68 510 SR20, 75 280Z RB25, 77 620 SR20, 79 B310, 90 Z32, 91 GTi-R, 92 Silvia Qs, 98 S14, 23 Z.
Location: Surprise, Arizona
Contact:

Post

Yep.

Thinking before speaking.

Isn't THAT what the libbies lambasted GWB for not doing?

Hmmmmm.....

User avatar
themadscientist
Posts: 26254
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:30 pm
Car: R32 GTR, DR30 RS Turbo, BRZ, Lunchbox, NSR50 Sportster 883 Iron
Location: Staring down at you with disdain from the spooky mountaintop castle.

Post

But he is a Harvard graduate.

Kind of supports my assertion during the campaign that he was inexperienced. Of course when McCain was singing bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran, even I would look measured.

User avatar
WDRacing
Moderator
Posts: 15983
Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2002 2:00 am
Car: 95 240SX, 99 BMW 540i, 01 Chevy Express, 14 Ford Escape
Location: MFFO
Contact:

Post

I figured out how we can get rich. Find out what company is selling all these friggin horse blinders to the public. They are obviously selling millions...

User avatar
Kohster
Posts: 258
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:23 am
Car: WRX STI

Post

AZhitman wrote:She NEVER ONCE said the person entering the house was Black.
You're right, she never said they were black. But the police stated (and continue to assert) that she did.

Quote »Sgt. Crowley stated in his official police report that he received a call that two black males were trying to enter a house. He said when he arrived at the scene Lucia Whalen, the witness and 911 caller, told him that "possibly two black males" were trying to enter a house.[/quote]and again here:Quote »Sgt. James Crowley has asserted that his information on the race of the suspects came specifically from a brief encounter with Whalen outside Gates' house, a claim contradicted by Ms. Whalen at a press conference on July 29, in which she stated that she made no such description.[/quote]So you see, the police LIED here. They tried to cover their own mistake at the expense of a genuinely concerned citizen. It's indefensible that the police would be willing to throw under the bus the very citizens they are suppose to protect.

User avatar
audtatious
Moderator
Posts: 25014
Joined: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:31 pm
Car: 2017 Q60 Red Sport. Gone: 2014 Q50s, 2008 G37s coupe, 2007 G35s Sedan, 2002 Maxima SE, 2000 Villager Estate (Quest), 1998 Quest, 1996 Sentra GXE
Location: Stalking You
Contact:

Post

And it's not surprising that Obama would make the statements he made even though he stated he didn't have all the details.


Return to “Politics Etc.”