RB 1/4 times and/or Kills

[Repo Man]

Hey guys, I've done some searching but have limited time on the computer since I'm currently on deployment at Ft. Benning. I'm trying to make a decision on RB or an SR when I get back and put some power in my s13. I know which engine you guys will advise me to go with, but I would still like to know what kind of times you're turning in the 1/4 with what mods and what other cars you have *honestly* taken down.

I know what SR'd cars can do, but I don't have much exposure to the RB cars being from Indiana, home to corn, ****ty football teams and bad drivers.

Thanks for the help guys!

repo

[wawazat8402]

Why isnt KA-T on your list, that is what I would go with. Odds are this thread will not last very long, because the mods will lock it when it turns into a "which ngine is better" thread.

[Shahee1]

Go with your budget ... RBs are expensive to mod ... I have a RB but, If I could do it again I would just smash KA blocks all day long ... HAAAAA!!!! I would come out a lot cheaper and have a lot less headache.

[narfdanarf]

I've seen low 12's and even high 11's on a stock rb26dett with pretty much just slicks.

I'm looking for mid to low 10's on my rb25, but it's not going to be near stock.

[Joe]

yea go KAT lol

RB = expensive and hard to get parts

if i could do it all over i would have probably gone KAT.

[goofynick6]

Check multimedia forum for my previous 240 with rb20 beating a supercharged '97 Cobra..

[themadscientist]

I have yet to see an RB20 break into the nines and that is professionally built shop cars, most with stroker kits. Every race there seems to be at least one SR. Now the fact that the RBs ar always in a heavier car, Skyline, Cefiro or Z should be taken into account. As much as I think the the SR is overrated for a stateside guy it is hard to beat just based on the aftermarket support and the fact it seems to respond to basic upgrades well. Kind of like polishing a hand grenade but it shines up nice.

[onefastrb26]

I have an RB26dett in my s13, it walks over Z06s, 03-04 Cobras, many SRs, etc etc. It is stock with just a catback and 2 intakes. It dynoed 300rwhp at 9psi. I would not even think of going SR after the RB26.

And about the RB20 and RB25, they are OK, but not a RB26.

[dekand]

i would say they are better than OK ... but yes they are not the rb26, and they definitly dont cost as much... lol

300rwhp at 9psi essentially stock is nice but it also cost a few thousand $$$ more to get that setup so someone could just as easily and cheaper have 300rwhp with any of the motors...

point is i love the rb26 and in fact id love to meet up with you since im in the dallas area ... but dont put down any other motor lol

[WTBs14]

You know what is funny? If this guy wasn't a moderator you guys would be telling him to quick reposting and start searching

[TheOne]

You know what is funny? If this guy wasn't a moderator you guys would be telling him to quick reposting and start searching

but he did search.........read the post again.

i'd love an rb26 swap....i mean bein in the ~12's or 13's with 9psi, but am stickin with the ka till it blows up:).

[onefastrb26]

i would say they are better than OK ... but yes they are not the rb26, and they definitly dont cost as much... lol

300rwhp at 9psi essentially stock is nice but it also cost a few thousand $$$ more to get that setup so someone could just as easily and cheaper have 300rwhp with any of the motors...

point is i love the rb26 and in fact id love to meet up with you since im in the dallas area ... but dont put down any other motor lol

Yes, the RB25 and RB20 do not cost as much, but I love my RB26.The owner of GSMotorsports has a R33 GTS-T Skyline, and he took a ride in my car. He could not believe it and he claims my feels like a different animal.

I am installing a PowerFc D-jetro, HKS fuel rail, 1000cc injectors, Aeromotive FPR, catch can, boost controller, and turbo timer next week. So if everything goes well, I can email you if you want to meet somewhere.

[dekand]

yeah my email is [email protected]

i love my rb25, im sure id love an rb26 more but for me it does the job quite fine

anyways email me and we can meet up sometime maybe if you know any car meets around here, the only one i know of is in lewisville on wed nights if they still do it.

[T4 RB25det]

i ran a 12.9@109 16psi, rb25,gt30, 18 inch street tires, spinning qite a bit and since I used stock mounts the motor moved quite a bit when i got on the throttle hard so it was kinda hard to do the 1-2 and 2-3 shift, its fixed now, running more boost, bigger turbo and some other new stuff

was at 356whp on the setup i ran a 12.9 on

i havnt had a chance to go back out with the new setup

[Repo Man]

You know what is funny? If this guy wasn't a moderator you guys would be telling him to quick reposting and start searching

Again, I did search. To reiterate, I am deployed at Ft. Benning, Georgia currently and I do NOT have unlimited time on the shared computers. So thank you for your understanding.

Thanks to the rest of you for your input. I have a high-mile single cam that I don't really care to mod. If it were a dual cam, I would probably go KA-T. I know that I can buy KA's cheap, but by the time I buy the turbo kit and all other necessary parts I would have as much or more in it than if I went SR.

I know SR is "cliche", but it seems like the way to go in my situation.

repo

[sean8564]

Well NOw I have aRB25 and I am In love it is pretty much stock and I wal Sr's and Cameros all day i paid 1800 for the 1st one and 700 for the second motor the Rb25 has a few problems like the sr 1 the Oil pump for the 25 is crap Simple repair when you are having the timing belt changed other than that is is a good strong motor and there is a certian air about the RB motor you don't get with a SR when You tell people it is a Skyline Motor. So That My 2 cents.

[HolyShiznit]

Not to nitpick but I hardly ever hear of you RB guys going to the track, you realize how hard it is to get track numbers out of you? I know there are like 4 RB's in my town now. They all sprung up out of nowhere, 3 RB25's(one being a NEO), one RB20. None of them are running properly to get to a track.

I would REALLY like to see what an RB25 in an S13 chasis can do. For the record I ran a 13.3 @ 110 with 8 psi on my KA-T(220whp), then ran a 12.7 @ 110 clutch grenaded(273whp), then at 1.55 bar cause I never hit max boost turned out a 13.0 @ 119.8 with a 2.48 60'. I forgot to air down the tires hehehe.

[Imissmyturbo]

My time is in the Sig...Another RB25 powered S13 that goes to the same track I do runs 10.6's in the 130 mph range. He running a stock RB25 motor with a custom upper intake manifold and exhaust manifold with a T70 turbo and SDS standalone. I am guessing I am around 320-330 whp I really need to dnyo it.

[240convert]

well, when i graduate, i plan on getting a rb26 into a hatch too and i'm not doing because i can get 350hp or whatever out of it...if you want to just do that, i would agree with the other guys and do kat or sr...

my personal reason i would want to do the rb26 is just because its my dream car /set up and i wouldn't mind stashing an extra few grand to get it going...

if you just have a desire to have the rb26, just do it, if you're short on cash and just want to go fast, there are other routes, just my 2 cents...

[rbsileighty]

Not to nitpick but I hardly ever hear of you RB guys going to the track, you realize how hard it is to get track numbers out of you? I know there are like 4 RB's in my town now. They all sprung up out of nowhere, 3 RB25's(one being a NEO), one RB20. None of them are running properly to get to a track.

I would REALLY like to see what an RB25 in an S13 chasis can do. For the record I ran a 13.3 @ 110 with 8 psi on my KA-T(220whp), then ran a 12.7 @ 110 clutch grenaded(273whp), then at 1.55 bar cause I never hit max boost turned out a 13.0 @ 119.8 with a 2.48 60'. I forgot to air down the tires hehehe.

Maybe nico should make a spreadsheet like this...

http://v6power.net/portal/timeslips/index.php

Maybe posts contengent on a timeslip submitted with it like theirs for validity.

Nice way to see what makes power for different people.

Might change topics to:

Rank Name Chassis Motor

Power Adder?(which model turbo/how big of a shot)

Tires Track 60' 1/4 ET 1/4 MPH

[HolyShiznit]

I agree that would be bad ***.

Just so everyone knows I am not forum hopping and bashing on RB's just giving my track times as a reference.

[T4 RB25det]

i agree that the RB has problems just like the SR does, but if you know how to wire the **** right, and replace the things that need to be replaced when you get the motor, you will have a fast reliable car.

I have seen 2 other rb powered 240's here in michigan at the track, one was compltely stock rb25 in a coupe running low 14's i dont remember the other one

[Sky240PWR]

i agree that the RB has problems just like the SR does, but if you know how to wire the **** right, and replace the things that need to be replaced when you get the motor, you will have a fast reliable car.

I have seen 2 other rb powered 240's here in michigan at the track, one was compltely stock rb25 in a coupe running low 14's i dont remember the other one

wow 14s, thats not good, are they in the s13 or s14?..cause I have a near stock RB25 in my 91 hb and I have stock rims and bald tires and I've beaten a 96 cobra mustang by 4 car lengths and a 04 GT by 2 1/2 car lengths(a 04 GT does the 1/4 in 13.7) and both of the people knew how to race so.....but I haven't taken it to the track yet, I have to drive 2 hours to get to the nearest 1/4 mile

[DriftingisLame]

one RB20. None of them are running properly to get to a track.

*sigh* leave me alone jon...

[rbsileighty]

Where in MI... I'm in Flint for a bit... what track are you running at?

[Ramius83]

Well, just to add a side note.

I have a completely stock RB26 in my S14, running 13 pounds of boost, stock turbos, stock suspension, etc. I have hit 12.06 three times now. Suspension is on order, should throw me into the 11's.

[y3llows14]

You said that you are in Ft Benning Georgia? Im in Phenix City Alabama. About 15 min away. If you would like to get a ride in my rb25 with upgraded turbo, Im more than happy to show you. I havent run it at the tracks yet, but have beaten a few GTOs and ZO6. My friend also has an sr 240, but its hard to get a hold of him. But believe me, once you get a ride in a Rb 240, there is no way you would go with an SR.

[turtl631]

I have an RB26dett in my s13, it walks over Z06s, 03-04 Cobras, many SRs, etc etc. It is stock with just a catback and 2 intakes. It dynoed 300rwhp at 9psi.

Z06s run high 11s/low 12s stock...you're saying that you are faster with a 300 whp car that weighs probably 2800 lbs?

Hm...

[Ramius83]

Z06s run high 11s/low 12s stock...you're saying that you are faster with a 300 whp car that weighs probably 2800 lbs?

Hm...

I don't see how that is possible though.

There are three Z06's at Commerce that run almost every Grudge night. They run, in stock form, with best times of 12.8 and 12.9, over and over. I have myself on DVD racing two of them and beating them. So I don't see how a stock Z06 can run low high 11s in stock form.

And what everyone is forgetting about. POWER TO WEIGHT RATIO. You can have a 500whp car, that weighs 3800lbs, and it WILL be beat by a much less powerful car that has less weight. It is almost a rule of thumb man. Come on. I am not arguing with you, I am just letting you know the facts.

And if you want to mention a 300whp car that weighs about 3000 lbs with me in it, and I am hitting 12.06 repeatedly, with stock suspension? Ummmm yeah. I got proof.

[driftjunke]

Hey Repo, you know Ron Dillinger out there at Benning? He's one of my guys thats been around my shop since day one, we're finishing his this week hopefully, a coupe with a 14 Kouki front, full widebody, Origin Stream kit, RB20 with a T70 turbo, FMIC, the works, running the e-manage to start but probably gonna try that Megasquirt or the AEM EMS. You may have talked to him before. You oughtta get in touch with him, hes up here every weekend at the shop, maybe come on up one weekend, its about a hour and a half drive from the base. We're hoping to break him into the 400hp club for the RB20's, and be the first as far as we have seen, in the states.

I like the RB20's over the 25's, more revs, and I haven't ran any 25's that can take my 20 yet. Plus you can have 350 plus with fmic, t3/t4 and a few other bolt ons.

Eric

Modified by driftjunke at 8:38 PM 8/28/2005
Modified by driftjunke at 10:34 PM 8/28/2005