Raced 350z in the 240 last night

Website · Post by **daniel240** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

Sygerwulf wrote:I think sometimes people don't realize that it's professional drivers that are laying down those 0-60 and 1/4 times that are on vehicle's tech sheets. An average driver isn't going to be able to pull that off without alot of practice. I bet those times are in the best possible conditions too. The first run I did of my 240 I ran a 17.2 talk about weak, but after I started to learn and adapt I got it down into the 15's.What's the Z's standing 1/4 time suppose to be anyway??

yes thats very true. i think the Z's standing time for 1/4 is around 14.1 or close to that. the times that they get are found using professional drivers with several tests in the best possible conditions using high octane fuel and those times are the best out of all the tests. and that is with the 6 speed manual. on average, with an averge driver depending on the weather and other factors, would be at least a second or more slower than those times. and that is not incredibly fast, at least not enough to kill a mildly modded 240 5speed with a decent driver.

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

rite, and remember that the 240 was an sr20, so that makes it all that much more potent

Post by **Project240** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

Quote »Double clutching?? nobody should have to double clutch their car in a race unless your syncros are bad. thats a thing with old cars before they had syncros.[/quote]But Vin Diesel said you should double clutch!!! Remember?!! :rolleyes God I hate that fkn movie.

A 350Z with a good driver should lay down better times than a 15 or so. The guy probably just bought the car and drove it to the track the next day or something.

Like someone back there said, a well-built automatic is actually better for drag racing than a manual, especially when you start dealing with REALLY powerful cars. The key is having a higher stall speed torque converter so you can get the engine into the powerband before you launch.

Post by **krazy skwerel** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

yes the fast and the furious inspired a bunch of stupid bastards. i was really looking forward to it and then i saw it and was like wow that was $hit. did anyone see a 300zx in it? i know ive never saw one in it. and 240's were very scarse as well. stupid ricers and damn the del sol w/hydros. :batman

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

Project240 wrote:But Vin Diesel said you should double clutch!!! Remember?!! :rolleyes God I hate that fkn movie.

A 350Z with a good driver should lay down better times than a 15 or so. The guy probably just bought the car and drove it to the track the next day or something.

Like someone back there said, a well-built automatic is actually better for drag racing than a manual, especially when you start dealing with REALLY powerful cars. The key is having a higher stall speed torque converter so you can get the engine into the powerband before you launch.

very true, when i power brake for launch, i can only rev to 2500rpm before it stops, but still gives me good enough launch to beat ppl that arent andrettis at shifting, and most people that i race that have autos, no nothing of powerbraking, and well, if it gets me money, who am i to spoil it??

Post by **240_of_pa** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

very stupid question. i have been driving my 89 s13 all of two months and i have vastly limited experience in driving b4 i bought it. what do you mean by "when i power brake for launch"? sorry:(

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

240_of_pa wrote:very stupid question. i have been driving my 89 s13 all of two months and i have vastly limited experience in driving b4 i bought it. what do you mean by "when i power brake for launch"? sorry:(

its not a dumb question man, thats why i said most people that i race with autos dont nkow about it either, anyway, powerbraking in an automatic is simply holding the brake pedal down and the gas at the same time, my car allows me to rev at about 2500rpm without moving, sone cars allow less, some more, as soon as u let go of the brake the car is already prepared to move (which also helps reaction time) as opposed to just letting go of the brake and hitting the gas as quickly as possible, this also helps your transmission from overloading (or so ive heard), i am no expert but ive used this technique countless times, and helps u win, it makes much more of a difference than u would think!, many 'racers'know and use this technique, so dont think u could pull this on Michael Shumacher or anything, but in normal friendly races with people that arent andrettis kids, it confuses them to see u jump off hte line so quickly!!< hope i was some help

Post by **240_of_pa** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

oh i get it! i didn't realize that you were using an auto also when you described powerbraking:rolleyes thanks for the help

Post by **FrEaK** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

It also puts incredible stress on your engine and drivetrain... i wouldn't recommend doing it alot...

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

actually, it puts less stress on ur drivetrain and engine than just letting go of the brake and flooring it, the car has to immediately react, and when u power brake, (not that it IS good for ur car) the car is already prepared to launch, it 'knows' it has to jump off quickly, speaking of thta, i powerbroke (?) tonite while racing a modded mustang gt, i got him in first (to about 40mph) but when i glanced through my window, he changed to second and his front tires nearly jumped off the ground, i knew i would lose, but much closer than i thought, and i also got 2 crx's tonite, one from a 45mph roll on, and the other from both 40 and stop, it was fun

Post by **FrEaK** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

I differ in opinion but i'd dont think i want to start an argument... i haven't got the time

Post by **Tino** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

Ha, thats your only excuse for not starting an argument freaky one, time.

Post by **FrEaK** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

Yea... i've decided to remain passive in these forums... unfortunately there are some people who draw people out... i would prefer to stab these people...

Post by **MaineExport** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

I played Disc Golf today..... it was fun and wet in the snow.

Random posts in threads that have nothing to do with anything. Try it... it feels good!

Post by **FrEaK** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

I threw a monkey into a balloon filled with mummies...

Hey it works...

Post by **Tino** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

look at that, a couple whores having at it. lol

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

haha, i wasnt trying to start a fight, but i was told powerbraking when launching was better, and u say that its not, im jus curious where u got ur info from man, cuz i havent heard that powerbraking is good from anybody with an extreme amount of credit, just a lot of people on the streets told me this, and it helps me win, so i did it, but where did u get ur info from, if its greatly damaging the car, then id like to know, thanx man,

Post by **C-Kwik** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

nlzmo400r wrote:actually, it puts less stress on ur drivetrain and engine than just letting go of the brake and flooring it, the car has to immediately react, and when u power brake, (not that it IS good for ur car) the car is already prepared to launch, it 'knows' it has to jump off quickly, speaking of thta, i powerbroke (?) tonite while racing a modded mustang gt, i got him in first (to about 40mph) but when i glanced through my window, he changed to second and his front tires nearly jumped off the ground, i knew i would lose, but much closer than i thought, and i also got 2 crx's tonite, one from a 45mph roll on, and the other from both 40 and stop, it was fun

It's not so much stress, but driveline shock. But auto-transmission's don't have that problem, unless you rev it up in neutral and put it into drive. If you floor an auto transmission from a standstill at idle, there won't be any significant driveline shock. Dropping a clutch at high RPM can produce serious driveline shock.

Post by **themadscientist** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

powerbreaking and neutral dropping wear out the transmission, if you plan on doing it don't cry when first gear is a memory in normal driving conditions. Don't get me wrong, the last GTS-T I had was an auto and I powerbreaked it mercilessly to phenominal launches but the transmission was phucked by the time I sold it, then again I'm a dumbass so don't use me as an example!:pface

Post by **s14=pimpin'** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

nlzmo400r wrote:it knows' it has to jump off quickly,

damn freak, you let him get away with that???

someone pass me the ketchup please.........

Post by **AZhitman** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

Unbelievable.

nlzmo400r, I'm sure you mean well, but you can't say which puts more stress on a driveline without doing test after test. Cars are DESIGNED to be accelerated rapidly from a dead stop. Cars are NOT designed to be "powerbraked".

Here's the deal - Powerbraking an automatic has more to do with getting the car into it's powerband. For example: My Q has 278 hp. It's fast. And it's peak power is developed somewhere between 4-6K rpms. So off the line, it'll get eaten alive by a car with more bottom end power. So, by powerbraking, I get the car deeper into it's "sweet spot" (engine is already revving higher).

Big problem? Wheelspin. IF I can manaage to get the car to sit still at 2000 rpm's preparing to launch (usually it'll start spinning the rears), then even when I DO launch, I'm sitting in a cloud of my own back tires - TOO much power off the line.

R&T did a test a few years back wherein they observed 60' times for a few popular vehicles. Times were NOT significantly better for the "powerbraked" cars.

I'd prefer to get a good, solid launch, feathering the throttle to minimize wheelspin and take my chances on passing the poor unsuspecting basturd at around 45-50 mph...

Neutral drops are just plain retarded and anyone doing it should be forced to drive a Hyundai Scoupe with a misfiring #3 cylinder and white-letter tires for the rest of their life.

Post by **FrEaK** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

Paul... i dunno.. i had my reasons *cough*working for RB *cough*

Seem's like some credible people set him straigh no harm done.... except..

AZ stop picking on white letter tires... i kinda like those

Post by **AZhitman** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

LOL - Sorry FrEaK - I forgot. Must be a canucky-redneck thing...

Post by **FrEaK** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

haha... uhh... maybe....

Post by **gibbo80** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

Not saying i like fast and furious, it was bull**** but they did have a skyline as one of the main cars. The next one is going to have a skyline as the main car i believe. I think it has a pretty sweet s13 hatch in it to (from looking at pics). Yeah it was a ****ty movie but it did have a skyline and the next one has them for sure. Nothing against 240s or 300s but most people if they are gonna see a nissan they would want to see a skyline.

Post by **FrEaK** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

The owner of that Skyline was so digusted with what they made him paint it, that after the movie he ripped off the stickers and painted it black, and sold it...

On a happier note, he later bought a ferrari...

Post by **jEzTeR** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

gibbo80 wrote:Not saying i like fast and furious, it was bull**** but they did have a skyline as one of the main cars. The next one is going to have a skyline as the main car i believe. I think it has a pretty sweet s13 hatch in it to (from looking at pics). Yeah it was a ****ty movie but it did have a skyline and the next one has them for sure. Nothing against 240s or 300s but most people if they are gonna see a nissan they would want to see a skyline.

They also had a Maxima and 240 in the first movie.The only cars in Vin's group that wernt Nissans were the RX7 and Jetta.I agree the movie itself was poop,the cars were awesome and ill go see the new one for that reason.Who knows maby part two will even have a plot.

Post by **Repo Man** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

jEzTeR wrote:Who knows maby part two will even have a plot.

...but don't hold your breath! :icesangel

Website · Post by **daniel240** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

gibbo80 wrote:Not saying i like fast and furious, it was bull**** but they did have a skyline as one of the main cars. The next one is going to have a skyline as the main car i believe. I think it has a pretty sweet s13 hatch in it to (from looking at pics). Yeah it was a ****ty movie but it did have a skyline and the next one has them for sure. Nothing against 240s or 300s but most people if they are gonna see a nissan they would want to see a skyline.

yea but i saw some pics of the skylines that are going to be in the new movie and they riced them out. it made me sick to look at what they did. i saw some pics of a few and they all had gay neon lights on them and gay ricer stickers all over with huge wings. i would rather them not have any if thats what they are going to do to them.

Post by **s14=pimpin'** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

i agree with daniel on that one, I'd rather have the skyline a low key, only for the hard core japanese car enthusiast living in North america who does research BEFORE buying a car, and not the person who just follows trends. F & F sucked major balls, but some of the cars were cool, although they would have looked a whole lot better without park benches on the back, and maybe a pull out sticker book in the trunk, instead of plastering the poor, unsuspecting cars with tacky, crap *** apc stickers. I'll probably see part 2, but I'll download a ripped copy off the net, or rent it at blockbuster.

I'm not pleased to hear the skyline will be a major ride in pt.2. In fact, it makes me sick, all these kiddies will want one, and mine (and freaks dream) of swapping an RB may be alot more costly after the popularity of the movie

on a positive note, the 240 may go up in resale value (they are already pretty overpriced in the canuck market), and i might be able to sell my 240 and buy the ferrari i've always been dreaming of!

LOL, thanks for setting them straight hitman, although my s14 will eat your food off the line, with or without a brake stand. You'll get your dessert in the top end though........

cya

Raced 350z in the 240 last night

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