Raced 350z in the 240 last night

Post by **themadscientist** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

daniel240 wrote:thanks Themadscientist!

No problem, just be careful out there crazy;)

Post by **EyeStabPeople** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

ok, ive seen a brand new Z dyno when it first came out, had about 800 miles on it, its best pull was 227 to the wheels.

nuff said. this was a 6 speed and 100% stock.

Post by **Nils** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

227 to the wheels..... out of curiosity, how many runs did the car make?

Does anyone have an idea on how much of a HP loss the 350z auto transmission would create as supposed to a manual transmission?

Just curious to see a "ballpark" rwhp figure for the auto transmission.

n

Post by **ka24de_510** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

I've also seen a new stock 350 dyno 262 to the wheels. Dynos are the most inconsistent measuring device I've ever witnessed.

Did everyone here miss the point about Tiptronic? It's better than most drivers. Sure there's a bit more of a power loss, but I doubt it would run over a 14.5 1/4. With a partially gutted car and mildly non-stock SR you could take a 6-speed.

The thing to remember is peak HP output alone doesn't translate to faster ETs.

Post by **FrEaK** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

TMS... i'm sorry but unfortunately i'm one of those people who need the proof.... it keeps my buddies from making stories

The whole story sounded wack, but your right... i wasn't there...

Post by **AZhitman** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

It's a rare occasion, but I gotta back my boy FrEaK on this one big time. I've never driven the 350 but HAVE spent some time in a G35 sedan and all I can say is if your 240 ain't modded, you're getting whupped up on. That car is damn quick.

On a side note, I hate the Tiptronic. The auto transmission in the G35/350Z is MORE than capable for 1/4 mile runs, and on a road course I'd bet it's damn close to a skilled driver's times with the manual transmission.

That being said, I LOVE to see older Nissans smacking down the high-dollar competition, so keep up the good work!

Post by **240 or die** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

I might be a fool but my240 is just injen cai and apexi dual, and ive driven my friends 350 and what a nice car but if (and when) I turbo my KA Ill eat his ****. Its fast, but not mindboggling. I think at 100+ though my *** would be grass, and the 350 is a John Deer

Post by **FrEaK** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

AZhitman wrote:It's a rare occasion, but I gotta back my boy FrEaK on this one big time. I've never driven the 350 but HAVE spent some time in a G35 sedan and all I can say is if your 240 ain't modded, you're getting whupped up on. That car is damn quick.

On a side note, I hate the Tiptronic. The auto transmission in the G35/350Z is MORE than capable for 1/4 mile runs, and on a road course I'd bet it's damn close to a skilled driver's times with the manual transmission.

That being said, I LOVE to see older Nissans smacking down the high-dollar competition, so keep up the good work!

Good call!

My Dad just bought the G35 sedan, and my uncle just ordered the G35 Coupe... i've driven both, and a stock 240 cant even come close, even a midly modded one cant come close... those cars pull like crazy and have a higher limiter.. it doesn't seem possibly, unless the car was just spinning them at the line...

I've beaten a couple swapped Hondas in the G already... and i cant get enough of that throaty 6 sound... *drool*:)

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

well if its true that FREAK has a litely modded sr20 with a 5spd manual, and the 350z has a 5spd auto, and they went from 25mph roll on, im thinking this kid didnt know how to drive that well and may have been in too high of a gear, either way, its still possible for the sr to win, jus unlikely, and as far as 350zDYNO numbers, 227 at the wheels is crap!!, thats a 60hp loss through drivetrain, not happenin, and 262, sounds rite to me, i jus think 227 is totally outrageous and impossible, i still want to see the race on video, so if u have it, PLEASE post it to back up your claims, that alone will shut a lot of people up, and as for now, i do believe that you 'HUNG WITH IM FOR A BIT', which as u said earlier, not winning, but either way, nice loss man, and i know people like seeing older nissans 'WHOOP' up on the high price new ones, but take that on a road course, thats when u realize why u spent the extra ca$h

Post by **AZhitman** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

if that face is toward the end of my post, then i meant take it to a road course and you'll see the price difference in performance, as the 350 would obviously put a beating on a 240, depending on mods ofcoures, i thought i worded that kinda wierd

Post by **FrEaK** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

You'll also feel the weight difference...

Post by **SRJesse** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

I have driven the G35 SEDAN!!! And I think it would give us SRpowered 240's a run. The 350z would most likely beat us, unless you are really modded. I know SR's are un-godly fast, but 287 -vs- 220 or so with stock SR, intake, exhaust shouldn't really compare. Anyway, the 350z's are so hot and so are the older Z's. Geez I wish I could afford one.

One day.......oh one day!

Post by **AZhitman** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

I agree nlzmo - There's really no competitin between the two cars. There have been so many advancements in 15 years it's unreal.

I had more fun driving that G35 sedan than I should have. I'll probably buy the coupe in 2 years when I tire of my Q... Better get the extended warranty, though - Cause i'm gonna abuse the pi$$ out of it.

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

AZhitman wrote:I agree nlzmo - There's really no competitin between the two cars. There have been so many advancements in 15 years it's unreal.

I had more fun driving that G35 sedan than I should have. I'll probably buy the coupe in 2 years when I tire of my Q... Better get the extended warranty, though - Cause i'm gonna abuse the pi$$ out of it.

well that was just my way of seeing things, hell take the new new dodge srt-4 neon for instance, 220 turbocharged hp and low 14s in the 1/4, yea well, that car cost ATLEAST 10Gs less than the 350, but if driven right can easily hang if not beat it in the 1/4, but on the track is where the extra 10grand shines, its no contest, but still a nice lil event to ponder about

Post by **240canuck** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

yeah but remember any old guy can go buy a 350z at the local dealer, but it takes a truely twisted human being to shoe horn an sr20det into a 240.

Post by **jEzTeR** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

240canuck wrote:yeah but remember any old guy can go buy a 350z at the local dealer, but it takes a truely twisted human being to shoe horn an sr20det into a 240.

LOL True.What kind of twisted person would want to spend 30K on a car?Then spend more to squeese a supercharger under the hood?:eek:

Post by **FrEaK** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

I would... got a problem with that?

Website · Post by **creophus** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

Yep, I got a problem with it! It's called $$$

Post by **FrEaK** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

i hear that...

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

i agree, but still, im hoping u see my point, there are quite a few cheap cars that are quick in a straight lihe, but on a track, the cheaper and not as well made parts mak a difference

Website · Post by **daniel240** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

nlzmo400r wrote:i agree, but still, im hoping u see my point, there are quite a few cheap cars that are quick in a straight lihe, but on a track, the cheaper and not as well made parts mak a difference

:Werd

Post by **r34 gtr** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

haha! i dont have to worry about my car being cheap...the dude that bought it in 89 paid close to 20 grand for it. by the way, the retail was 13k. i have a $2k "sport tuned suspension" whatever that is.. doensnt really matter though since my car has a problem with people driving it. (it breaks when you sit in the drivers seat with the keys)

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

r34 gtr wrote:haha! i dont have to worry about my car being cheap...the dude that bought it in 89 paid close to 20 grand for it. by the way, the retail was 13k. i have a $2k "sport tuned suspension" whatever that is.. doensnt really matter though since my car has a problem with people driving it. (it breaks when you sit in the drivers seat with the keys)

haha, LMAO, good stuff man!

Post by **sxse** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

I dont understand why people think that the newer the car is the better it handles just because of technology. The s13 was a very advanced car for its time, that's why they produced the 180sx for almost 8 years. Have you guys read the kind of #'s the SCC project silvia put down? it was like 69.4 in the slalom and .94 Gs or somthin skid, tahts pretty good for an `89 with some JIC coilovers

Post by **SilviaLuvr** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

This is tru but then again you also said "for it's time". You're 100% right about that and im not going to argue your point. For the price for the S13's the performance on them where amaizing. The cars of today, some of them, do handle second to that of our cars, but then again it's a new car which means they will last longer then ours. The S13's where made to performe on track, unfortunently our cars do not performe as well as it does in a straight line then it would on track. It' s something that we must sacrifce. Every car is made that way. They are excelent in a straight line but once you hit a turn, they suck and other cars suck in a straight line but they don't have to wory about stoping oor hitting the brakes hard everytime they make a turn from "high" speeds.

Post by **FrEaK** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

Re Read your post... it said it was bult for turns and ucked straightline first, then you said they were good in strightline, and sucked in turns... make up your mind dude...

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

the 240 isnt pathetic in turns or straight line, sure they're not the quickest straight line, but handle amazingly, even for THIS time they are a good car, the 350z is just better, and it should be, it cost more

Post by **5 ltr. beater** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

daniel240 wrote: i was pretty impressed that i actually hung with him even though it was an auto, its still a 350z.

i totally belive your story even though some people don't. i go to the california speedway all the time and i always bring my camcorder. it just so happens that i have that car on tape doing a 15.1 @96 mph. and that was a 6spd.!!!!!:shocked2 well, if you have a mid 15sec car, just put 2 and 2 toghether and an auto 350Z ain't going to leave you that easy. trust me everybody........i was just as disappointed as you guys were to see that car run in the 15's twice in the same day. by the way, that car was stock.

Post by **Sygerwulf** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:10 am

I think sometimes people don't realize that it's professional drivers that are laying down those 0-60 and 1/4 times that are on vehicle's tech sheets. An average driver isn't going to be able to pull that off without alot of practice. I bet those times are in the best possible conditions too. The first run I did of my 240 I ran a 17.2

talk about weak, but after I started to learn and adapt I got it down into the 15's.What's the Z's standing 1/4 time suppose to be anyway??

Raced 350z in the 240 last night

Re: Raced 350z in the 240 last night

Nissan Forums

Infiniti Forums

Datsun Forums

Technical Forums

Classifieds / Marketplace

Nissan Motorsports

General Forums