Hey guys - Just wanted to let you know that we'll be introducing some AWESOME deals (deep, deep discounts) on brake upgrade packages here in the next few days.
Rotors (drilled, slotted, dimpled, or smooth), stainless lines, speedbleeders, high-end fluids, calipers - ALL the good stuff.
Start thinking about what you'll want, and I'll start putting together some packages and pricing.
Q45 guys: Brake Upgrade Packages!
I personally would like a complete system, that address the front and rears. Something as potent as stillens f40 system, but with rears. Also ducting for cooling, would be real nice. Custom designed calipers...
A wide range of systems would be nice, from cheap to uber expensive..
Anything to get rid of the paper thin stock rotors. This heat has severe effects on stock braking, if driven aggressively.
A wide range of systems would be nice, from cheap to uber expensive..
Anything to get rid of the paper thin stock rotors. This heat has severe effects on stock braking, if driven aggressively.
yeah!!! Finally a reasonable solution to new brakes as I am going to need new front brakes within the next 6,000 miles and would rather put the monies towards some bigger better stopping power....
I can use a brake upgrade as I really want to be able to bring my big beast to a stop much quicker.
As per Q45techs comments to my skyline post, I would want the following;
32mm thickness fronts or higher330mm diameter fronts or higher4 piston fronts2 piston rearsAll SS linesCross Drilled & Slotted RotorsPads
Q45tech stated that the new 745i Bimmer was running 348mm x 32 mm upfront and that we needed at least a 32mm thickness to see any real benefit for our money in reducing stopping distance
I can go with the larger diameter (greater than 330mm) as I will be running 18" wheels and of course I would be interested in say a 6 piston front and 4 piston rear setup if the price was right
What is the time frame that you are thinking on this project for when we can receive our new brakes?
I can use a brake upgrade as I really want to be able to bring my big beast to a stop much quicker.
As per Q45techs comments to my skyline post, I would want the following;
32mm thickness fronts or higher330mm diameter fronts or higher4 piston fronts2 piston rearsAll SS linesCross Drilled & Slotted RotorsPads
Q45tech stated that the new 745i Bimmer was running 348mm x 32 mm upfront and that we needed at least a 32mm thickness to see any real benefit for our money in reducing stopping distance
I can go with the larger diameter (greater than 330mm) as I will be running 18" wheels and of course I would be interested in say a 6 piston front and 4 piston rear setup if the price was right
What is the time frame that you are thinking on this project for when we can receive our new brakes?
ELW,
You work at a country club, and drive an infiniti?
You're like a carbon copy of myself..
When I was 16 (7 years ago, ouch) 1997? ok, damn I'm old....
Anyway I managed to get a 1994 J30t, working at one of the nicest private country clubs in the state...
You must feel like a big pimp, I know I did
Keep on pimpin it, cause you'll be a 23 year oldster, like myself one day
You work at a country club, and drive an infiniti?
You're like a carbon copy of myself..
When I was 16 (7 years ago, ouch) 1997? ok, damn I'm old....
Anyway I managed to get a 1994 J30t, working at one of the nicest private country clubs in the state...
You must feel like a big pimp, I know I did
Keep on pimpin it, cause you'll be a 23 year oldster, like myself one day
hey....watch it there about the old age thingy 
....I am a very young 31 year old...feel more like about 27 or so and still trying to learn the ropes...."I don't party any less than I use to, I just party more efficiently now."
AZ94Q....The skylines were 30mm in the front. That is the largest ever made for a skyline. So according to Q45tech that is not thick enough for us to feel a real noticeable difference for our monies as we are already at 28mm thick. Thicker is better ....hey did you ever find a solution to your oversized "knob"...Just joking.
90Q45blue....I have no idea on the back rotor thickness, maybe Q45tech can enlighten us with his wisdom on what would be appropriate for the back. I am just going on what Q45tech suggested from my Skyline post.
The Skyline rear brake upgrade kit uses the stock 300zx rear 2 piston calipers and rotors. I don't know the size of the rear rotors on a 300zx, but I would think that we would want something at least as big as the 300zx.
....I am a very young 31 year old...feel more like about 27 or so and still trying to learn the ropes...."I don't party any less than I use to, I just party more efficiently now."AZ94Q....The skylines were 30mm in the front. That is the largest ever made for a skyline. So according to Q45tech that is not thick enough for us to feel a real noticeable difference for our monies as we are already at 28mm thick. Thicker is better
....hey did you ever find a solution to your oversized "knob"...Just joking. 90Q45blue....I have no idea on the back rotor thickness, maybe Q45tech can enlighten us with his wisdom on what would be appropriate for the back. I am just going on what Q45tech suggested from my Skyline post.
The Skyline rear brake upgrade kit uses the stock 300zx rear 2 piston calipers and rotors. I don't know the size of the rear rotors on a 300zx, but I would think that we would want something at least as big as the 300zx.
AZHitman,
I have some diagrams of a brake caliper brackets that'll allow Q45's to run Ford Mustang Cobra 13" rotors with Z32 4-pot calipers. Big, big difference in braking power, fade is virtually non-existant. Tom runs these and his Q and we do have diagrams with specific dimensions and specs if you'd like them. These would be a great, and inexpensive, alternative to pricy Big Brake kits.
I have some diagrams of a brake caliper brackets that'll allow Q45's to run Ford Mustang Cobra 13" rotors with Z32 4-pot calipers. Big, big difference in braking power, fade is virtually non-existant. Tom runs these and his Q and we do have diagrams with specific dimensions and specs if you'd like them. These would be a great, and inexpensive, alternative to pricy Big Brake kits.
Well, there are several members here with that kit, and they said it helps immensely. Not to mention it was the kit of choice, on a Q45 that saw track time in a 24 hour endurance race...
Not to say Q45tech is wrong, but he doesn't seem that apt on big brakes anyway...
I'll let you know how it feels, when I get my hands on it.. Although when a racing shop finds it sufficient for endurance racing, and several members give it the thumbs up, I should think it is sufficient.
I wouldn't mind a 6 piston front/rear setup, with real thick and BIG rotors (13-14 inch) all around...
Not to say Q45tech is wrong, but he doesn't seem that apt on big brakes anyway...
I'll let you know how it feels, when I get my hands on it.. Although when a racing shop finds it sufficient for endurance racing, and several members give it the thumbs up, I should think it is sufficient.
I wouldn't mind a 6 piston front/rear setup, with real thick and BIG rotors (13-14 inch) all around...
"The Skyline rear brake upgrade kit uses the stock 300zx rear 2 piston calipers and rotors. I don't know the size of the rear rotors on a 300zx, but I would think that we would want something at least as big as the 300zx"
Can anyone with this upgrade confirm this? My project Q is equiped with the skyline brake upgrade, and from what I've been told, it has axially vented/drilled rotors, all around...
I think 911/q45 has this upgrade... can you provide us some insight?
Can anyone with this upgrade confirm this? My project Q is equiped with the skyline brake upgrade, and from what I've been told, it has axially vented/drilled rotors, all around...
I think 911/q45 has this upgrade... can you provide us some insight?
http://300zx-twinturbo.com/tech/gtr/gtr32brake.htm
Check out this link... It notes the differences between the 300zx TT brakes, and the R32 GTR brakes..
The skyline brake upgrade, should be IDENTICAL to the R32 GTR stock brakes.. As you can tell from the link, the Gtr brakes are clearly superior to the stock 300zx brakes.
As you can also see they are not solid, but drilled..
From the article
"Comparison between the stock Z32 brakes (L) and the Skyline GT-R32 brakes (R)As you can see quite clearly the discs of the GTR32 are larger and thicker and the difference between the calipers, Z32 (left) = aluminum, GTR32 (right) = iron"
Check out this link... It notes the differences between the 300zx TT brakes, and the R32 GTR brakes..
The skyline brake upgrade, should be IDENTICAL to the R32 GTR stock brakes.. As you can tell from the link, the Gtr brakes are clearly superior to the stock 300zx brakes.
As you can also see they are not solid, but drilled..
From the article
"Comparison between the stock Z32 brakes (L) and the Skyline GT-R32 brakes (R)As you can see quite clearly the discs of the GTR32 are larger and thicker and the difference between the calipers, Z32 (left) = aluminum, GTR32 (right) = iron"
Duaine,
You insane bastard!!! You probably have the most potent front brakes on nico, and you are running stock rears!?!?!?! Most of the braking is going to the back, you need to get rid of that crap 1 piston rear setup immediately.. I would think you would notice a huge difference just going to the skyline brakes in the rear..
I know you drive hard on the track, you must really cook those rears... With some rear brakes, you should be able to go much depper into the corners, hopefully aiding your all around times...
You insane bastard!!! You probably have the most potent front brakes on nico, and you are running stock rears!?!?!?! Most of the braking is going to the back, you need to get rid of that crap 1 piston rear setup immediately.. I would think you would notice a huge difference just going to the skyline brakes in the rear..
I know you drive hard on the track, you must really cook those rears... With some rear brakes, you should be able to go much depper into the corners, hopefully aiding your all around times...
I have been to a zillion brake specialist and no one can agree. Stillen had nothing to suggest. In fact Steve said that as long as I wasn't experiencing oversteer that I should leave it as is. I had thought to put large outfit on rears along with proportioning valve to find the right mix.
Remeber, brakes were one of the first things that I did, and although I have continued to ask about the rears, there has been no appreciation for the situation.
--But then I didn't know about all the expertise within NICO either.
Remeber, brakes were one of the first things that I did, and although I have continued to ask about the rears, there has been no appreciation for the situation.
--But then I didn't know about all the expertise within NICO either.
I don't understand that at all. Stillen built the car I'm purchasing, and they upgraded the front & rear brakes...
What the hell are they thinking? I can't believe they would tell a track warrior, to keep his 1 piston paper thin rotors stock... I can cook these rotors just driving aggressive around town in the AZ heat... I can only imagine what a day at the track would do to them...
I think you should try out the skyline setup in the rear..
BTW, how did you manage that AP kit in the front? Lucky dog... Ap doesn't advertise anything for the Q.. looks like you have some one off kit.. nice one
What the hell are they thinking? I can't believe they would tell a track warrior, to keep his 1 piston paper thin rotors stock... I can cook these rotors just driving aggressive around town in the AZ heat... I can only imagine what a day at the track would do to them...
I think you should try out the skyline setup in the rear..
BTW, how did you manage that AP kit in the front? Lucky dog... Ap doesn't advertise anything for the Q.. looks like you have some one off kit.. nice one
Nor does Stillen. I had a really great salesman (or whatever they call them) who helped me through my first year. When he left I lost my best friend. Anyway, I was buying Brembo, when he announced that they just started selling the AP -- and that they had never been tried on the Q.
Bought and installed them. Four years later (3,600 miles and one year down time) I had to change the pads. I was having problems so called Stillen. They insisted that they never sold the AP for the Q. I could only smile. One and only.
Many of my parts are from a Z so if they work, not sure why Stillen wouldn't have suggested it.
So, what is the BEST choice. I hear you on the Skyline, but is that the best choice? Does the Skyline need fabricated brackets or does it come complete?
Bought and installed them. Four years later (3,600 miles and one year down time) I had to change the pads. I was having problems so called Stillen. They insisted that they never sold the AP for the Q. I could only smile. One and only.
Many of my parts are from a Z so if they work, not sure why Stillen wouldn't have suggested it.
So, what is the BEST choice. I hear you on the Skyline, but is that the best choice? Does the Skyline need fabricated brackets or does it come complete?
It comes complete, from stillen. There are some older archived posts, about the installs. They are fairly straightforward, espically if you have 17+ inch wheels. I think the skyline choice in the rears would be best, at this point. The price is good, the advantages are clear, and I can't really think of any negatives.. Combined with the monster front kit that you have installed, you should be good to go.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the skyline kit is the only plug and play system, available for the rears..
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the skyline kit is the only plug and play system, available for the rears..
When I spoke to Stillen about getting all the goods for my car, the only guy knowledgeable for the Q there is "Kenny". All the others say "I don't know". According to Kenny, the system is a complete plug & play application, except that you need to remove the sheilds and the low pad sensors. The cost for the entire kit which includes everything was $1475, which I think is on the high side. I was hoping for something more like $1,000 at the most for the whole setup.
AZ94Q....I hear you too about the Skyline kit on the Q for racing. It must have been reliable and made a difference, can't imagine them putting it on there for nothing. While the skyline upgrade is probably good, I would like to go with a bigger setup especially if I am spending $1,500!!! I would like to think that for $1,500 we could get a much better setup than the skyline system. Also to note about the skyline calipers...they did switch to an aluminum vs. iron setup for a year or two on the cars, but then went back to iron.
AZ94Q....I hear you too about the Skyline kit on the Q for racing. It must have been reliable and made a difference, can't imagine them putting it on there for nothing. While the skyline upgrade is probably good, I would like to go with a bigger setup especially if I am spending $1,500!!! I would like to think that for $1,500 we could get a much better setup than the skyline system. Also to note about the skyline calipers...they did switch to an aluminum vs. iron setup for a year or two on the cars, but then went back to iron.
1,400 isnt that bad.. for a total system.. little pricey... you save money in labor, by not having to do any sort of jerry rigging... It's certanly better then $2,600 for the brembo upgrade (fronts only)
If the skyline rotors were 13 inch+, I think we would all be happy with that... They are thicker and drilled, however...
Big brakes are usually very expensive.. it's not just stillen raping us.. If you want big name brakes, they will cost alot of money..
If the skyline rotors were 13 inch+, I think we would all be happy with that... They are thicker and drilled, however...
Big brakes are usually very expensive.. it's not just stillen raping us.. If you want big name brakes, they will cost alot of money..
Regarding the iron setup... The 300zx brakes use aluniminum, while the GTR brakes use IRON..
Also all 4 rotors are drilled, and the rears are not stock 300zx brakes..
I think the skyline system is nice, and ample.. That being said, I want something better
I would like AT LEAST 4 piston calipers all the way around, along with 13-14 inch rotors, with considerable thickness.. Also some brake ducting for cooling....
We need something like Duaine has, but front & rear..
Also all 4 rotors are drilled, and the rears are not stock 300zx brakes..
I think the skyline system is nice, and ample.. That being said, I want something better
I would like AT LEAST 4 piston calipers all the way around, along with 13-14 inch rotors, with considerable thickness.. Also some brake ducting for cooling....
We need something like Duaine has, but front & rear..