photos of H4 HID installed on S13

[Fenvy]

I don't really know what kind of night pics you're looking for? I already said that there is no cut off since it's a flip light

[onosqv]

Damn, those are bright. I think he was talking about what it lights up, not what on coming traffic sees .

Speaking of that, you haven't gotten in trouble w/ the authorities for those lights... yet?

[Fenvy]

it is NOT illegal to have HID to begin with. Through out the 5 different HID sets I owned I've never gotten any trouble, even when I am right behind the police intercepter/cruiser.

you want an idea of the cut off? it's on the TL near the gas door there that's your cut off

[AZhitman]

Looks awesome!

Wonder how tough it'd be to get a pic of the beam pattern? Like maybe on a dark road?

[Fenvy]

Some of you anticipated me to drive up against a wall and take a photo of the light reflected off of the wall, the probllem with something like that is that there is no cut off so the entire wall will be illuminated.

I'll snap one soon and you'll see what I mean.

Is there a housing that actualyl have cut off?

[WeldingHank]

there is always the projector H4 housings. i'm sure those have a decent cut-off.

[Fenvy]

projector on s13 don't look too good to me

[onosqv]

there is always the projector H4 housings. i'm sure those have a decent cut-off.

No, they don't. In fact, they are worse than the regular ebay ones, cuz the refract light even crazier. I know, that's the one I used. Absolutely horrible - both for hid & halogen.

I think the only way to get the true cut off is to retro fit, which is a whole other task in itself.

[sticky240]

well you can always get some of those cheap ebay housing, get some e46 HIDs w/ the projector and ballest and retro fit them into the H4 housings.

I was thinking of this, but I'm just going to go with some silverstars

[Fenvy]

they look fugly, I don't wnat to name any names but someone has already done it and it looked fugly on flip lights

[onosqv]

it is NOT illegal to have HID to begin with. Through out the 5 different HID sets I owned I've never gotten any trouble, even when I am right behind the police intercepter/cruiser.

Good for you, haha.

From about.com - at time of writing:

Quote »Sylvania's XENARC High Intensity Discharge (HID) lighting systems are the only street-legal HID product available in the automotive aftermarket today. [/quote]From a HID supplier (http://www.xenondepot.com/faq.php#led) - obviously not noting the Sylvania Xenarc (which is no longer available anyway):

Quote »NO XENON HID conversion kit available from any source is DOT approved if installed outside of the factory. Moreover, in the U.S, this is not street legal for use on public roads. As a result, we officially endorse the kit for exhibition and off-road use and will only sell the kit to be used for these purposes. We are not responsible for buyers who violate the terms of sale while in which they will assume all responsibilities for any unauthorized or unintended use other than exhibition or off-road use.[/quote]

[Fenvy]

the law profit the sale of the HID in USA after august 03, I believe. The use of HID is legal though.

xenon depot, from what I remember, used to be in united states, notice how they are supposedly in canada now.

And I doubt sylvania is the only street legal kit even when they were in production

[Juujai]

i don't know about legal or not but we got owned over here. a cop was trying to start **** with us with some hids on my friends car. i forgot how much the ticket was... stupid fix it. i hate it how some luxury cars come factory with hids and come factory slammed.. but we get tickets for shizz like that from the pols. give us such a hard time with our engine swaps that are actually better with emissions than stock.. ticket us for exhausts when lots of v8s sound louder without an exhaust... oh well gotta live with it.

i prefer yellow i dont know why. ferrari style and also so i dont blind people in front of me.

[Fenvy]

what is the violation code? lsat time I checked there isn't one for having headlight too bright, the only possible violation that I know of is non-working headlight, too low/high

the police always camp valley/ivar

[Juujai]

im not sure about the citation number but the cop said the headlights shouldn't be blue.

he acted like an azz too. made us pop the hood too but luckily his car was almost stock.

[Fenvy]

that'll depend on the temp color of HID your friend have.

I Don't know about color being illegal since it's a known fact that standard blue bulb is by far dimmer than standard bulbs and probably cause dangerous driving condition.

Without knowing what the violation number is, it's hard to say what BS he fed you. It's proably the same police that pulled me over for "running a red" when I know I didn't, this was 4 years ago

[st33f]

pretty lights

i hope that guy isnt picking on me for having 2 circle lights... i dont really know what an e36 is... im guessin a m3/328i?

[Fenvy]

is this the nigh pic you;re looking for?

[Wykid 240]

How about pic of you in the middle of a street with on them on to see how far and bright they are. . .. one with lowbeam and highbeam. . .

-Jeramy

[ArticDragon192]

I remember seeing like some sleeves that you put around the bulb itself to project the light foward instead of scattering it all over. I dunno the link though.

[Fenvy]

How about pic of you in the middle of a street with on them on to see how far and bright they are. . .. one with lowbeam and highbeam. . .

-Jeramy

what high beam? there is no more high beam

OKay I'll try that when I get the chnace

[NrG]

Is this a joke?first off, HID kits are crap.Second, you installed your hid bulbs upside down LOL!

the light should be on the bottom. There are cutoff but your cutoff wont be as sharp as OEM HID.

Halogen housing are not ment to be used with HID. Shield or not, you're going to be blind people anyways. It's called glare. You will also get crappy lighting on the ground -called hot spots. HID kits are Illegal since Jan 2002. That's why you don't see them being sold anywhere.

first read this: http://www.hidplanet.com/forum...=2080then read this: http://www.hidplanet.com/forum...=3505

I hope you had fun wasting all that money for poor quality lighting. Live and learn. Retrofiting is the answer.

The reason why people are asking for night pictures is because they want to see how well they're working.these are the kinds of pictures i'm talking about:You park your car 20ft away from a wall and take a picture with a tripod.

[mmatl16]

dude ur a fag and you dont know **** about cars. go the **** away and leave the forum to people with imagination.

the headlights look good

[ArticDragon192]

How do you install HIDs upside down? Don't the H4 housings have grooves to guide the bulb and hold it in it's place properly? Also mmatl, he's giving some information. I dunno if he's right or not, but there's no need t flame him like that.

[AZhitman]

Oh, he earned a good flaming.

Anyway, upside-down or not, they look good. Hope they're safe.

I seem to recall Loveless advising against buying the same housings he bought, he wasn't a fan of them (something NrG apparently failed to read).

[mmatl16]

arcticdragon you should check out that guys watched topics and read through his posts. he is an ***. ull see if you read through them

[Fenvy]

*** or not, he's right to a certain extent.

It is nearly impossible to get standard halogen housing to work property with HID, you will only blind people due to its poor design, lack of cut off.

I'm not in the market in obeying the law, I care not if I blind the oncoming traffic or the person I'm tailgating. The only thing I am interested in is the visibility in front of me. Look at my car, if it doesn't scream out "I don't care how it looks" I don't know what does. Why bother with retrofiting? why spent more money to get similar result? e46 and audi hid projector cost more than the hid kit already.

Whenever I have more money to fund my car, I dump it in performance parts, not body kits, not spoilers, new paint, or better lighting solution as these things doesn't make me go faster.

One thing I don't undetstand is why you said "hid kits" are ****ty? oem phillips kit is pale in comarison with catz in terms of quality as the insulation profided is poor. Also, I may be wrong, but I don't think there is any OEM H4 hids out there and the use the the adapater ring for other specification often change the position of the bulb.

accord to this diagram I installed it correctly.

[Chezedik]

It has me thinking about them, for those long empty Kansas highways.

[Fenvy]

for 300$ or less, I say it's worth it

[skydragoness]

I'm not in the market in obeying the law, I care not if I blind the oncoming traffic or the person I'm tailgating.

That's not the right way to think about it. As much as i hate the drivers around where i live (since one of them hit my car 2 weeks ago), you still shouldn't be an prick and be courteous to others on the road. It's a privalege to own a car, not a right.