OOH! Animals on fire! YEAAAH!

[IvoryJ30t]

alot of people confuse this.

that is NOT a daddy long legs. its a harvestmen. harvestmen are not spiders.

daddy long legs look completely different, are real spiders, and are venomous.

[dont take that wrong, all spiders are venomous, its just a matter of if the fangs can penetrate your skin, and the toxicity of the venom]

[skydragoness]

Bats would suck! You'd choke on the fumes of ammonia from their excrement before they killed any spiders. Besides, those spiders would have to have wings too for the bats to be eating them anyway.

[Mr1der]

bats rock...

I could so shoot his parents dead infront of a theater too!

aye spider venom is part of the digestive system for them...unlike snakes which is a defense/hunting method.

I say you get a ferret, I have no idea on it's effects on the spider population, but it'll run around like a retard and knock over anything it can!

[skydragoness]

alot of people confuse this.

that is NOT a daddy long legs. its a harvestmen. harvestmen are not spiders.

daddy long legs look completely different, are real spiders, and are venomous.

[dont take that wrong, all spiders are venomous, its just a matter of if the fangs can penetrate your skin, and the toxicity of the venom]

http://spiders.ucr.edu/daddylonglegs.html

[IvoryJ30t]

it really varies from person to person.

most spiders are as harmful to humans as a bee or a yellow jacket.

i can get stung by a yellow jacket, and the only effects will be a red bump. someone else could get stung by that same yellow jacket and die of anaphylactic shock. it depends.

also, the chances of getting bit depends alot on your behavior. if you freak out, your going to make it upset.

i can handle a yellow jacket without getting bitten/stung, and i have NEVER been bitten by a spider even though i have handled countless amounts.

[IvoryJ30t]

http://spiders.ucr.edu/daddylonglegs.html

alot of people refer to harvestmen as daddy long legs and think they are spiders. that is what i was trying to negate.

i guess you can correctly call a harvestmen a daddy long legs, but it is NOT a spider. thats what i was getting to. sorry if i was confusing.

[skydragoness]

it really varies from person to person.

most spiders are as harmful to humans as a bee or a yellow jacket.

i can get stung by a yellow jacket, and the only effects will be a red bump. someone else could get stung by that same yellow jacket and die of anaphylactic shock. it depends.

also, the chances of getting bit depends alot on your behavior. if you freak out, your going to make it upset.

i can handle a yellow jacket without getting bitten/stung, and i have NEVER been bitten by a spider even though i have handled countless amounts.

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Did you not read that in full detail? There have been no known bites or bites proven to be toxic to humans from the Phoclid class of Daddylonglegs (the ones that actually have fangs). There was also someone who mentioned an episode of Mythbusters, but that was probably dealing with the Opillone class of 'daddylonglegs' than the Phoclid class of daddylonglegs. That site i posted is a direct link to the Entomology department at the University of california, i'd figured they'd be right.

apparently the myth of them being deadly to humans, but they don't have the ability to 'bite' is very very widespread indeed.

[Chingon]

I'm going to have to try this Black Widow vs. Ants thing... or maybe like Black Widow vs. Other animals...

Maybe I could video tape it and sell it or something.

black widow vs scorpion: black widow wonblack widow vs vinageroon: black widow wonblack widow vs big *** 2 in locust w/o legs: black widow wonblack widow vs praying mantis: have yet to try..

[BadMojo]

Bats would suck! You'd choke on the fumes of ammonia from their excrement before they killed any spiders. Besides, those spiders would have to have wings too for the bats to be eating them anyway.

Maybe the bats could eat the spiders as they're hanging around in their webs.

As for the bat poop, you could always leave a window open and harvest, then sell the precious guano. Wait...then your bats would fly away.

OK, maybe an owl would eat spiders or a toucan. I think toucans are carnivorous.

[Chingon]

bats rock...

I could so shoot his parents dead infront of a theater too!

aye spider venom is part of the digestive system for them...unlike snakes which is a defense/hunting method.

I say you get a ferret, I have no idea on it's effects on the spider population, but it'll run around like a retard and knock over anything it can!

on a side note, if you give a bat a smoke, IT WILL Smoke it... Don't know why, but it did.

[skydragoness]

alot of people refer to harvestmen as daddy long legs and think they are spiders. that is what i was trying to negate.

i guess you can correctly call a harvestmen a daddy long legs, but it is NOT a spider. thats what i was getting to. sorry if i was confusing.

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i think that was a non-issue, i was trying to tell Mr. Sirnay that daddylongs are generally harmless, but then again, maybe he had a Pholclid class in his room. then again, except for the picture of the phoclid daddylongleg 'spider' the only daddy long legs i see are the harmless Opilion ones.

[Chingon]

BTW: firecrackers work wonders on getting rid of spiders...

[IvoryJ30t]

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Did you not read that in full detail? There have been no known bites or bites proven to be toxic to humans from the Phoclid class of Daddylonglegs (the ones that actually have fangs). There was also someone who mentioned an episode of Mythbusters, but that was probably dealing with the Opillone class of 'daddylonglegs' than the Phoclid class of daddylonglegs. That site i posted is a direct link to the Entomology department at the University of california, i'd figured they'd be right.

apparently the myth of them being deadly to humans, but they don't have the ability to 'bite' is very very widespread indeed.

oops, i meant spiders in general, not harvestmen.

a harvestmen cannot bite, nor is it venomous. its not a spider.

i was going off on a rant about spiders, and didnt specify.

[skydragoness]

oops, i meant spiders in general, not harvestmen.

a harvestmen cannot bite.

i was going off on a rant about spiders, and didnt specify.

oh ok. your replies confused the hell out of me

[Sircnay]

Praying Mantis vs. Spider: I'd put the money on the mantis. They're immune to the poison and they have the reach.

[Chingon]

but can they break the web?

[IvoryJ30t]

praying mantis are awesome.

they wont bite you, but they have sharp pincers on their legs, so if you play with them, it might pinch. just be slow and gentle, there amazing creatures to watch.

the praying mantis would eat the spider.

i watched one eat a cicada once, that was cool.

black widows are sick, ive seen them eat other spiders more than twice its size. one time, the widow was just sitting there, and another spider walked infront of it. the widow attacked and killed the other spider that was at least twice its size, and then proceeded to carry the dead spider back to its home. crazy little ****ers, i usually kill them.

[jdmfreak]

LOL! Never seen a black widow. But that may be due to the NY weather:(

I do have a spider in my house that feed though. Fun little buggers.

[IvoryJ30t]

black widows are pretty rare around here. ive only seen a handful of them in my life.

[Chingon]

praying mantis are awesome.

they wont bite you, but they have sharp pincers on their legs, so if you play with them, it might pinch. just be slow and gentle, there amazing creatures to watch.

the praying mantis would eat the spider.

i watched one eat a cicada once, that was cool.

black widows are sick, ive seen them eat other spiders more than twice its size. one time, the widow was just sitting there, and another spider walked infront of it. the widow attacked and killed the other spider that was at least twice its size, and then proceeded to carry the dead spider back to its home. crazy little ****ers, i usually kill them.

yep...praying mantis ****ing rule. Have you ever pissed one off?? They get all karate kid defensive and open this fan shaped figure on their backs!! I'm still debating the outcome of the fight...how do you guys know they are immune? I mean, i know praying mantis go for the head right away, but spiders have really small heads.

[IvoryJ30t]

ive never heard that mantis are immune to spider venom. they have a very hard exoskeleton, so the spider fangs may not be able to penetrate.

if you nice and gentle/slow you can pick them up and play with them.

ever see one do the evasive flight maneuver that they do?

they fly up, and then corkscrew back to the ground.

the also have ultrasonic hearing to detect the presence of bats.

[Fenvy]

hey that's kind of mean to kill off spiders

usually I leave them alone or throw them out the window

I used to have a few pairs of black widow in a container. Black widow's venom bites stings like fire but goes away after a while. I think they had over 5 batchs of eggs (in a sac) in the duration that I had them. I didn't know what to do with the baby spiders so I left them outside and they were either hunted by ants or hunting ants. Very interesting insect to have.