Oil Filters

[captainluigi]

A bit of sad irony here is that the Camry which has held numerous records for build quality has actually lost ground since being a US of A prod. Perhaps they will return to the prominence they deserve when the hoosiers of Lafayette take the helm. Built by Subaru of Indiana. This new world economy spins my head let alone my portfolio.

[konatown]

A bit of sad irony here is that the Camry which has held numerous records for build quality has actually lost ground since being a US of A prod. Perhaps they will return to the prominence they deserve when the hoosiers of Lafayette take the helm. Built by Subaru of Indiana. This new world economy spins my head let alone my portfolio.

Oh boy, the 2005-06 Corolla is probably the single worst car Toyota has ever made. The Camry is slipping. The Tundra is manufactured primarily here in Indiana, is still a solid truck; Its had a few TSBs but are all due to parts that were poorly manufactured/cast.

On a side note, I send Champion Labs a few dozen Toyota and Lexus air filters and cabin air filters along with TRD air and oil filters ever week.

Remember, if any one needs Toyota parts, email me, I'll get you wholesale pricing.

Captain, I sure hope you got those wheels in a timely fashion after that fiasco.

On Topic:

I use the M1 filter, but have used the TRD filter for Tundra V8s before with good results.

[jimbyjimb]

I don't know much about Camry's but my Accord was incredible, and I think it was a U.S. car. And anyone looking for a gas powered truck needs to look at a Toyota. Out of all the new trucks I've driven it is by a long shot the best of everything. I like the new Chev diesels, they are pretty nice. The Fords have testies and the Dodge's aren't too shabby either. The 05 Toyota Tundra I drove was nicer than all of them, only missing the fuel economy, growl and raw power of the diesels. It felt as stout as the HEMI trucks I drove. The Nissan's are nice too, but the only one I drove was an 02 Frontier.

[Skibane]

There was a link about who made which filter. Wonder if it is still active?

Here's a study which might be the original link

http://www.knizefamily.net/min....html

Claims Champion makes M1.

The Opinions & Recommendations link on that same site is especially informative - Plenty of good (and bad!) stuff out there.

Of particular note is the "Ecore" line of filters made by Champion Labs (i.e., SuperTech, STP, Champ, AC Delco ) - Apparently, they've recently re-designed them to be even cheaper, with bad results. However, looks like their "Performance" filters are still fine.
Modified by Skibane at 8:53 PM 4/16/2008

[Q45denver]

Good article. I guess some European manufactures have gone to two years and 20,000 miles intervals at the same time oil companies have been cutting back on anti-wear additives in their non-racing oils.

http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html

[NightRiderQ45]

Mobil 1 Extended Performance Oil Filters are made by Champion Labs and are a higher quality filter.

True, but for my 3-4k oci, it's perfect. Best bang for the buck. I'm not running synthetic so it's ok for me. Or if you are afraid of using SuperTech oil filters, you can purchase the NAPA oil filter which is made by Wix. Another great oil filter.

[NightRiderQ45]

The Opinions & Recommendations link on that same site is especially informative - Plenty of good (and bad!) stuff out there.

Of particular note is the "Ecore" line of filters made by Champion Labs (i.e., SuperTech, STP, Champ, AC Delco ) - Apparently, they've recently re-designed them to be even cheaper, with bad results. However, looks like their "Performance" filters are still fine.

Funny, I didn't see that anywhere in the article where it states that, "they redesigned them to be even cheaper, with bad results." Also, you should note that whoever wrote this artice stated...."In my humble opinion, they are a major advancement in cost savings for Champion. I have no data to back this up, but that's what fiber end caps and plastic core tubes say to me."

Opinion, not facts. Just like it's my opinion that Pennzoil Platinum synthetic oil is superior to Mobil 1 oil. I will continue to use SuperTech oil filters with no worries.

[lino]

lino, may I inquire as to the source of the info referring to M1 extended being a Champion lab prod superior to Champion lab Super Tech filter.

This is not a ball buster question. Inquiring minds want to know.

Hope it warms there soon.

Thanks

Captain- from what I understand both are made by Champion labs, however the M1 product uses better materials.... synthetic filter element instead of paper, better anti drainback valve material {how much any of this actually affects functioning of filter is a wildassguess?

Exactly what qship96 said. My source is Brian from Champion Labs tech department.

[NightRiderQ45]

Exactly what qship96 said. My source is Brian from Champion Labs tech department.

Wow, you have a inside contact. Great, so is there any kind of way you could ask him if the SuperTech filter is efficient enough for my 3-4k oci? I quite sure it is, but I would like to get some inside info. Thanks!

[Skylizzle]

WIX FTW

[lino]

Wow, you have a inside contact. Great, so is there any kind of way you could ask him if the SuperTech filter is efficient enough for my 3-4k oci? I quite sure it is, but I would like to get some inside info. Thanks!

Here's his toll free number, give him call and I'm sure he'll be more than happy to answer all of your questions:

1-800-882-0890

[lino]

Has anyone tried the Nippon 60U00 filter which SPL sells for $4? Here is what they say:"Nippon oil filters are the closest we have found to the Nissan Japan oil filters, which have been discontinued in the USA. Similar construction, filter area, and filter media as the Nissan Japan filters."



http://www.splparts.com/main4/main/default.htm

[captainluigi]

lino, I visited the spl site but could not find the filters. Please realize I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Lil help?

[lino]

Sorry about that Captain. I thought I had linked the page with the filter. My mistake. Ok, so here's what you do:

1. Go to the site: http://www.splparts.com/main4/main/default.htm

2. On the left side of the page, click on "Fairlady Z (90-99 Nissan 300ZX)"

3. Click on "Engine"

4. Click on "Other engine parts"

[Q451990]

Direct Link... http://www.splparts.com/main4/...t.htm

Very interesting! Might be worth buying one and cutting it open to compare with a 60U00. I wonder if T3 still has the side x side cut open 60U00 vs. 55YOO display, so that we could compare one of these with that?

Heath

[qship96]

Direct Link... http://www.splparts.com/main4/...t.htm

Very interesting! Might be worth buying one and cutting it open to compare with a 60U00. I wonder if T3 still has the side x side cut open 60U00 vs. 55YOO display, so that we could compare one of these with that?

Heath

When I was at the T3 South Cobb location last November, I think I remember seeing that in a glass cabinet in the corner

[Skibane]

Funny, I didn't see that anywhere in the article where it states that, "they redesigned them to be even cheaper, with bad results." Also, you should note that whoever wrote this artice stated...."In my humble opinion, they are a major advancement in cost savings for Champion. I have no data to back this up, but that's what fiber end caps and plastic core tubes say to me."

Opinion, not facts.

Not all opinions carry equal weight. Someone who has done a careful study on a wide variety of filter brands - even going so far as to autopsy them - carries a lot more weight with me than someone who wasn't even aware that Champion had recently changed the design of their SuperTech filters...

Quote »I will continue to use SuperTech oil filters with no worries.[/quote]Would that be the old SuperTech design, or the new one?

[maxnix]

Funny, I didn't see that anywhere in the article where it states that, "they redesigned them to be even cheaper, with bad results." Also, you should note that whoever wrote this artice stated...."In my humble opinion, they are a major advancement in cost savings for Champion. I have no data to back this up, but that's what fiber end caps and plastic core tubes say to me."

Opinion, not facts. Just like it's my opinion that Pennzoil Platinum synthetic oil is superior to Mobil 1 oil. I will continue to use SuperTech oil filters with no worries.

Well, you have to wonder why M1 stayed with the old design, don't you? They obvioiusly specified the design they thought was best.

Better filtration media will benenfit even the non-synthetic lubricant user, perhaps even more so.

[NightRiderQ45]

Not all opinions carry equal weight. Someone who has done a careful study on a wide variety of filter brands - even going so far as to autopsy them - carries a lot more weight with me than someone who wasn't even aware that Champion had recently changed the design of their SuperTech filters...

Would that be the old SuperTech design, or the new one?

True, true, true. I didn't know they changed the design also, but I figure it is still good for 3-4k oci. Another pioint is, how do you know if the local store still has the old filters or have they switched to the new. I wonder what the change of design date is? If not, I can still purchase the NAPA oil filter that is made my Wix. BTW, I know Joe is our friend, I've ordered parts from him before...well actually Justin because everytime I ask to speak with Joe, he isn't there.

**UPDATE**After taking the time to read ALL of the oil filter information, especially about the Ecore design , which as changed 2004/05, I will NO LONGER use SuperTech oil filters! I will purchase Wix from this point or load up from Justin when they have another $5 shipping sell.
Modified by NightRiderQ45 at 10:36 AM 4/18/2008

[NightRiderQ45]

After my extensive research about the SuperTech filters, I WILL continue to use them. I found a article on BITOG that shows a SuperTech filter cut open.....and it is well made. Doesn't look anything like that Ecore STP Champion filter that was on that page. Here is the link http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...10538

[NightRiderQ45]

Last post....another great link that show how the SuperTech filter is built. This is the exact filter I use on my car. Oh, and for you OEM oil filter people, take a look at how the Nissan/Infiniti OEM oil filter looks and you will be amazed !!

[Lifted79CJ7]

I am down to my last 6 Infiniti 60u00 filters and beginning to search for alternatives-so far here is what I see in premium filters for the Q

Pure-OneMobil 1WixAmsoil EAO38

Any one have any feedback on the above? The Amsoil looks very, very tempting, even though I am not a fan of their marketing and cult like distribution system {similar to Mary Kay, Amway,etc}

Trust me, just get a wix and you will be well protected. Had a friend do some testing on them, as well as visit an oil refinery to produce his own oil for AMC V8's. Just NEVER get a K&N oil filter.Jack

[maxnix]

[QUOTE= NightRiderQ45]Oh, and for you OEM oil filter people, take a look at how the Nissan/Infiniti OEM oil filter looks and you will be amazed !! But no Q45 have a V6, so not really germane. I definitely don't like the new one, which was designed for a VQ30DE. Why I will go to M1 or the Nippon one when my OEM are gone for the VH45DE.

Modified by maxnix at 10:41 PM 4/24/2008

[91-q45]

i always use nissan oem filters. i get them for like $5. plus they are blue, so that adds like 20hp...lol

[konatown]

i always use nissan oem filters. i get them for like $5. plus they are blue, so that adds like 20hp...lol

91-Q45 where are you in Indiana?

[91-q45]

just south of south bend/mishawaka. You?

[konatown]

awful Evansville.

[91-q45]

icic, thats quite a ways away......

[pouncer11]

MAIL system works really well.

i have a fram on mine, mobile one synthetic oil, just changed, PAIN IN THE BUTT TO REPLACE THE FILTER, it was jacked on so tight i had to take a chainsaw tool through it and pry for 30 min, the one that was on it was mobil one

[Issac]

i don't know if it is just me, but when I use synthetic oil on the new filter gasket, it is harder to remove. I noticed this on 3 cars. Somehow, someway, the filters get harder to remove. I do it by hand, tight, and with synthetic, it is always trouble to get off. So I do use dino oil, about 5 drops. I also wipe out metal paste from threads of new filters. You will see.German Castrol!There was a real good article on additive and oil I read. New oil is not good.There are additives that can beef up, even M1 was low. Funny but they said the old Chevy Engine Oil Supplement and a few others was a good idea. Lucas has a Zinc Plus additive. Not the syrup.I think Synthetics are not a good idea if they are the low additive. There are ways around it.