Official CoD Modern Warfare 2 thread.....with a NEW TRAILER!!!!!

[snwbrdr435]

I'm sitting by gamestop now there are a s*** ton of people here.

[240marcuSX]

damnit, maybe i need to get my a** down there then.

[RCA]

RCA plays Hardcore mostly.

Dude I will be playing core for a while...ay

These maps are soo HUGE and so new, I NEED core for atleast 4-5 days before I try to to take on hardcore. I tried playing some HC and OMG I got rocked! Now with silenced sniper rifles I have no shot.

What do you guys think about the tails on bullets?(When you see bullets you see a red line that kinda shows you where the bullet came from)

[snwbrdr435]

That sounds like bs I mean I could see if they were tracers but is it everyh round have a tail?

[RCA]

Yea I don't like it soo much and it is REALLY subtle but idk

[shmex]

My opinion on it is it helps, and it doesn't help me at the same time. I play on a 32 inch or so screen sitting literally less than a foot away from it, so it helps spotting those unseen enemies....thought when you brought it up cabrita....I starting looking into it....its not every bullet...so it is more like a tracer, than "every bullet has a trail", so to speak.

Anyways...I have no social life now. This game owns me with a capital O....and an adoption certificate.

Like I mentioned ealrier...there's nissan AC's decked with mad offset rpf1's throught the main games missions, and especially in the "estate" map for MP...so that's cool. Nissan love.

[fiznowler]

I played for a few rounds last night after waiting in line forever. I was pretty disapointed. It seems almost more arcade type than cod4. I am really hoping that I disliked it because i was tired and intoxicated lol. I will play tonight for a few hours and see if my thoughts improve. The big maps are a pain in the a**. More areas to walk through to get killed by a damn camper. It seemed to me like it takes forever to find someone.

[otterman]

What do you guys think about the tails on bullets?(When you see bullets you see a red line that kinda shows you where the bullet came from)

That sounds terrible.

Anyone play this on PC yet? The more I read the more it's starting to sound like a good single player game... MP still sounds iffy as hell. It's only been one day but I want answers NOW! lol

[MinisterofDOOM]

Not likely anyone on NICO will play the PC version. Most of the PC community is staunchly boycotting it due to IW's poopyhead. Considering the small number of PC gamers on NICO, if you or I or positron don't buy it, we probably won't hear about it.

Most of the reviews I've read say that the singleplayer game is fun but really feels like the lesser half of the game. Some of them mention that the story jumps around a LOT and feels really disjointed. I've also read that the game doesn't really do much with the story...leaving a lot of obvious potential major plot points completely unexplored, despite still featuring them in passing.

I'm sure it's still a lot of fun, but there's no way it's worth 60 freaking bucks if you're not going to mess with multiplayer. And if you ARE going to mess with multiplayer, you're better off buying a different game.

[OldmanPurdy]

Can anyone who has the game comment of the effectiveness of shotguns? ie: are they a viable weapon now or is it still using the halo 3 5ft effective range school of thought?

[fiznowler]

I played another hour on lunch today. The shotgun with no perks is just effective as it is on cod4. It has been a while since i played halo 3 i don't remember how effective it is. I could crush with the shotgun on halo 2 though lol. You get points for everything in this game. Kind of annoying i miss the simple 5-10 points depending on game. You get extra points for killing the guy that killed you, killing someone that is shooting your teammate, headshots, everything. I am more of an smg or shotgun close quarters fan. So far from my playing assault rifles/sniper rifles own. The maps are huge. I haven't played a map that is smaller than creek yet. And the game rewards you for sucking. If you die 3 times in a row you get a death streak perk.

[jdshift]

Man where do I start? AMAZING multiplayer, AMAZING. The line at my local Gamestop was just pure maddness........line to forever, chilly, tired, waiting, but SOOOO worth the inconvenience to obtain sweetness. Still getting the hang of the Modern touch because I did play W@W for quite some time, my stats were off to a solid start when I begun playing last night but took a hit with a bad combo of beer and being tired. Rebounded today and stats are starting to improve.

jdshift on the PS3......hit me up.

[Nali]

Can anyone who has the game comment of the effectiveness of shotguns? ie: are they a viable weapon now or is it still using the halo 3 5ft effective range school of thought?

Ive got the shotgun shell emblem, cuz i main the shotguns now. Ive got all of them to atleast level 3. And my faves are already complete.

Ill give you a review of all the shottys in core mode i dare not use them in HC.In order of perceived effectiveness lowest to highest.Based on Nalis' personal experiences with each.

5. Spas 12. - Too slow for room clearing, and its range isnt that great. Its comparable to the W1200 from COD4, but it actually fires slower....so pretty useless cept for emergency situations when you get flanked.Rating: Not worth wasting the slot.

4. W1887. - Awesome range, but a small clip, and relatively slow fire rate hurt it, to the point that it isnt worth main'ing, but is a really good secondary weapon. Much better than the Spas-12Rating: Lotsa fun but the slot can be used better

3. Ranger. - Decent range, and because it is double barreled its initial fire rate is very very high. Each trigger controls a different barrel so if you are too far to single barrel a guy squeeze both. Death from a distance....but only 2 shots means lotsa reloading. Sleight of hand will be needed...which means no bandolier which can be a bummer. But if you dont stay alive long enough to finish your bullets its a really good gun.Rating: Really good, and when first unlocked well worth main'ing for a while

2. Super 90. - Back from COD4 and nerfed cuz it was too powerful back then. The fire rate and range of the Super have been reduced slightly but it is still a very powerful gun and well worth main'ing it. Once you unlock its final attachment(no spoilers) it becomes a force to be reckoned with.Room clearing becomes very possible. It is also a really fun gun to run around with.P.S Dont put steady aim on it, and dont bother ADS. its more destructive without both.Rating. Badass. Perfect for main'ing and good use of a slot if you arent a camp style player. Better guns exist however.

1. Akimbo Ranger. - Lol wut, this gun again? Yes. The Akimbo Rangers stats are changed as such, it plays like a completely different gun, so it gets another spot.The Akimbo Ranger plays almost exactly like the Super 90 did in COD4. Which means its absolutely godly. It suffers the same distance issues the Super did, but with stopping power you only need a small percentage of the pellets to hit to get the kill. This gun is absolutely beastly on any map that has lots corners. Since you can reload two chambers independently of the other two. Killing guys who keep trying to rush corners is easy. 1.2 reloading 3.4 reloading.1.2 so and so forth till you run out of bullets or someone figures out to flankRating. Excellent main gun. probably the best gun to get the Game winner with as everyone Ohhhs and Ahhhs when they see its awesomeness.

0. Striker. - A gift from God, to every shotgun lover on the planet.

Its range is almost unfair, and people have already started complaining that the gun needs to be nerfed. It has a massive clip(by shotty standards) so clearing a room is a breeze....literally a breeze. Ive played matches where i get 6x multi kills without breaking a sweat.Its fire rate is extremely high so even if 4 or 5 guys jump out a door at you just keep squeezing cuz the shotgun has insane aim disruption so all their shots will hit the roof while your pellets will probably hit their heads if they get any shots into you. 4x Headshot anyoneAgain dont put Steady aim on this bad boy so you can get 2 or 3 guys at once.Extremely satisfying to kill 2 guys who are standing next to each other with 1 shot.Rating. Godly

-0. Kage Kage 12 - The Devil made metal. When you hear the kage kage go off, Unless you are sniping...run the other way very very quickly.Because, the kagekage user will kill you. It is nigh impossible to react to the onslaught that this gun unleashes when the trigger is squeezed. If you are in its line of sight, dont even bother trying to ADS. you will be pushing daises before you get one shot off. Its absolutely ruthless and makes short....short work of anything and everything in its path.Even Painkillers kneel before its awesome might.

It has the second highest range of all shotgun, slightly more than the Striker, it fires like its a frikkin SMG so itll clear its clip in a second. Meaning lots a reloading if you arent careful.However, this gun with stopping power only needs 2-3 shots at max range to drop someone, so instead of holding the trigger down, squeeze as needed and save bullets. It also has a ton of recoil which can be counter by careful aiming or the grip.Rating. Godslayer

A final word.All the shotguns have similar drawbacks which can prevent inexperienced shot-gunners from excelling.

1. Range is always an issue on the really open maps, but luckily the way the game is setup your secondary(?) weapon will alleviate that problem.

2. The enemy always knows where you are once you fire....so as soon as you do the flood gates are open and you need to be ready.

3. All of them have ammo issues, they all run out pretty quickly. It is possible to counter this with bandy. But sometimes the perk slot is better used for something else.

4. Breaking the habit of ADS is tough. The shotguns dont need ADS and IMO are actually better without it, so you will have to learn to stop ADS firing as it justs wastes time when it comes to the shotguns.

5. Hate from other players, because the shottys can be really ruthless.Lotsa hate because the shotguns dont care if you drop shot. Cuz the pellets which do hit now will most likely count as headshots. So if a guy drop shots, the shotgunner can just fire while aiming at where the dropshotters waist was and still get the kill by headshot no less.

P.S.Kage Kage. - The sound the AA-12 makes when you shoot it, youll come to hate it or love it real soon.Super 90. - M1014Akimbo. - Attachment(no spoilers)ADS. - Aiming Down SightsGun levels. - every gun has levels of usage much like in COD4. But this time even if you unlock every attachment, there are still more levels for the gun at which point you only get XP. But its an easy way to show other people your proficiency with any gun, as until you have reach the final gun level it will tell you exactly how many kills you have for that gun.

Hope this helped.As you can see im a huge shotgun lover.
Modified by Nali at 5:03 PM 11/10/2009

[LocAL_anarchy]

Great post, Nali. I was never one to use the shotguns in COD4 or WAW, as I prefer assault rifles. But now you have my curiosity piqued!!!

[RCA]

I can't get enough of this game...

I have been messing with these two classes for Core:

M16 / Stinger Missle- Silencer / Heartbeat monitor- Bling Pro / Stoping Power Pro / Ninja Pro- Grenade / Stun

and

Scar / Striker (red dot)- Silencer / Heartbeat monitor- Bling Pro / Cold-Blooded Pro / Ninja Pro

Stopping power to get things done, and SUPER stealth for sneak attacks.

But with that aside, let's talk Kill Streaks. I have been rolling with:4 kills Care Package5 kills Sentry Gun8 kills Emergency Airdrop

The Air Drop is AWESOME. Although it requires a large drop site because it gives you 2-4 items and they are scattered around your smoke beacon. The combo given to me most ofter is Predator missile, UAV, Sentry gun and Attack Copter. But a few times I get AC130, Sentry Gun, Predator missile x2

[Nali]

I change my Killstreaks depending on the team im on and what kinda of team i am playing against.But my main Killstreak set is:

5 - Predator7 - Harrier Strike11 - Chopper Gunner

The predator is guaranteed to get me atleast one kill. And more often that not gets me the harriers right of the bat.The harrier strike itself rarely gets me kills 1 or 2 at most.But the lingering harrier usually does enough to get me to chopper gunner.Or distracts the enemy team enough to let me get those last few kills till i make it to 11.Then i let loose the apocalypse.If my Harrier is still up, it just gets sad.

Sider NoteMy dummy account made it into the top 50!This is a bitter sweet achievement.Since my legit copy of COD is here, i have no reason to keep playing on the Dummy. So im retiring it.Ive been thinking of selling it, but i have no use for MS points and my live membership is good for a while.I might just let it die as soon as i get a 2.0 k/d.

[RCA]

The predator is guaranteed to get me atleast one kill. And more often that not gets me the harriers right of the bat.The harrier strike itself rarely gets me kills 1 or 2 at most.But the lingering harrier usually does enough to get me to chopper gunner.Or distracts the enemy team enough to let me get those last few kills till i make it to 11.Then i let loose the apocalypse.If my Harrier is still up, it just gets sad.

Sider NoteMy dummy account made it into the top 50!...

What?

Your kill streaks do not add to your kill streaks. If you have a Sentry @ 5 and it kills 6 people, you will not get a AC130 (assuming you have these available and chosen). I would drop your dummy account now, and start rocking with your original XBL account.

Also, from what my brother tells me your kill streaks come back. If you have 3 kills UAV ,4 kills Counter UAV and 5 kills Sentry Gun as your streaks...If you get 8 kills, you will recieve a UAV again. At 9 kills you will get your counter UAV ect... Any truth to this?

[Hijacker]

Not likely anyone on NICO will play the PC version. Most of the PC community is staunchly boycotting it due to IW's poopyhead. Considering the small number of PC gamers on NICO, if you or I or positron don't buy it, we probably won't hear about it.

Most of the reviews I've read say that the singleplayer game is fun but really feels like the lesser half of the game. Some of them mention that the story jumps around a LOT and feels really disjointed. I've also read that the game doesn't really do much with the story...leaving a lot of obvious potential major plot points completely unexplored, despite still featuring them in passing.

I'm sure it's still a lot of fun, but there's no way it's worth 60 freaking bucks if you're not going to mess with multiplayer. And if you ARE going to mess with multiplayer, you're better off buying a different game.

I refuse to pick it up for the PC. Infinity Ward just lost me as a customer over the douchebaggery they committed. The ironic part, there are already aimbots in the game now, which was one of the biggest things IW was claiming IWNet was supposed to eliminate. So now we have hackers and no way to get rid of them. I'm totally impressed!

I've played the SP on Deidra's PS3 copy, and I'm moderately impressed with it. CoD4 had a much better SP, and I don't know if I want to dive into MP. I think it's BS that you have to unlock game modes. If I want to start off playing HC S&D or Sab, I should be allowed to. That little "feature" has made me dread starting up anything on the MP side.

[RCA]

I've played the SP on Deidra's PS3 copy, and I'm moderately impressed with it. CoD4 had a much better SP, and I don't know if I want to dive into MP. I think it's BS that you have to unlock game modes. If I want to start off playing HC S&D or Sab, I should be allowed to. That little "feature" has made me dread starting up anything on the MP side.

I just think IW's PC "douchebaggery" has tainted your review of their game. SP is awesome, IDK how you think COD4's was better. If anything they are the same but even that I find hard to believe. That plus the story line is EPIC. At one point I was explaining MW2 to a friend and I mentioned MW2 as a movie 3 times instead of game by accident.

As for unlocking game modes, it literally takes 30min of online play to unlock them all (level 5). I am a hardcore guy and I play COD religiously but even I can't handle MW2's hardcore team death match at this point (I am level 46 w/ 13+ hours of MP experience). At the level you unlock Hardcore modes, you do not have the right classes/perks to do well. At level 5 you probably wouldn't even have been able to play all the maps. But if you are that willing to go play HC as a Level 5, with out the right perks or any map experience then go ahead, get your head taken off and not know where it was comming from.

[Hijacker]

The SP story so far has been overall "meh". I was expecting big since one of the writers is a main writer for NCIS (one of my favorite shows of all time). There's too many disjointed plot points to keep me interested in the story, plus after the invasion all I can think of is how much of a logistical nightmare it would be for the Russians to invade the east coast. Even if our defense network is taken out of the mix, I can't see the realism of launching that big of a strike. However, the "Wolverines" reference was a nice touch. I still have a few more hours to finish the SP (at least I think I only have a few more), so I'll reserve final judgment for then, but so far I was expecting more.

As for the comparisons to CoD4, I just felt that the story was stronger and more compelling.

[RCA]

Well if realism does it for you then there aren't many games that you must like. There are other aspects as to why an invasion could get so far into the US but that would be a spoiler so I won't say anything.

Also here are some videos of the PC failhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MdSwgKtSYg

This type of sh*t pisses me off. This is also why I do not game on a PC. There are WAY too many cheaters that hack these games. Very rare on console.

[takethewall]

Anyone else having issues with PSN today? I haven't been able to get on yet today.

[Nali]

What?

Your kill streaks do not add to your kill streaks. If you have a Sentry @ 5 and it kills 6 people, you will not get a AC130 (assuming you have these available and chosen). I would drop your dummy account now, and start rocking with your original XBL account.

Also, from what my brother tells me your kill streaks come back. If you have 3 kills UAV ,4 kills Counter UAV and 5 kills Sentry Gun as your streaks...If you get 8 kills, you will recieve a UAV again. At 9 kills you will get your counter UAV ect... Any truth to this?

Rewards do add to your streak.Care packages do not. Any kills you get from a care package reward do nothing for your streak. Which is why i stop using them.I dont know if the sentry gun counts cuz ive never really used it cept in care packages, but i know the pretty much every other reward counts towards your streak. When i was testing out the Nuke i used Harriers - AC130 - Nuke, and the AC130 took me from 11 to 25, as soon as i got out of it i had a tactical nuke waiting.

As for the second part i think ur bro is confused.What happens this time around is whatever streak you have doesnt disappear unless you use it.In COD4 if you got UAV then quickly went to AS your UAV disappeared.This time whatever streak you havent used will still be there after you call the streaks that stack on top of it.So chances are he went on a mad killing spree and forgot to use his counter UAV in between. Then after calling in his Sentry gun, the game reminded him that he still had his counter uav and he assumed it was just earned....when it was actually sitting there waiting for him all along.

[RCA]

Wow, are you serious?

So if I drop my emergency Air Drop and swap it with Chopper Gunner (CG) all the kills I get with it could add to my streaks! WTF! Dude I dropped like 12-15 kills with my CG!

From now on my KS will be:- 6 kills: Precision Air Strike - 7 kills: Attack Helicopter - 11 kills: Chopper Gunner

I might swap PAS for a PM. Nali do PM add to these kill streaks?Also in your experience with Nukes, are they worth it? IDK if I could ever use them. Do you get them offen? How many kills do you get from them? Any special endings?

[hatchback240]

Also in your experience with Nukes, are they worth it? IDK if I could ever use them. Do you get them offen? How many kills do you get from them? Any special endings?

when you call in the nuke it automatically ends the match with your team winning, everybody gets wiped out instantly. no matter the score, your team wins..

[Chaotic_Warlord]

I've been working my way through the SP side of the game, have to say this is one of the most intense games I've ever played. I say that because not just with the missions fighting through DC, but the Airport mission really F'd with my head. I now understand the warning when you first start the game, all I have to say is that about halfway through I was like WTF, I didn't really know how I felt about playing through it.

As far as the MP side goes, I'm not sure how I feel about it yet as I'm only a level 4. I just got the custom classes, overall b/c I'm going to be getting a late start on the MP side of things because I want to finish the story mode x2 (first I'm going through on Hardened then I go through on Veteran). Plus with the new Spec Ops mode I'll really be getting a late start. I like to go through and get as many of the achievements as I can before I go into the MP side, this way I have the controls and playability memorized. Plus I only play for a couple of hours a day so it takes me 3 times to rank up and get my weapons and challenges maxed out. Which is why I never Prestige, it's not worth it to me, I spend 3 or 4 months to open up everything, why would I start all over again.

Oh and I'm not liking the fact that there are so many Elitists in the MP. The games been official for not quite 2 days, so just because a level 2 or 3 pops in to a match full of level 20 somethings or 30 somethings doesn't mean your better than the level 2 so don't talk s*** and act like you lost the match because those new to game came into your match. I don't know about anyone else but I take a couple rounds to get warmed up and once I get certain weapons I bring death in waves. So if you get a noob in your room, don't talk s***, they may wind up being the MVP or your arch nemesis.

[bmike818]

I have a confession, last night was my first COD MP experience. it was awesome!!! after the initial slaughter I got, I started dishing it back.

The graphics looks really good. I barely touched the SP, because I don't want to be left out of the MP.

See you girlies in COD MW2

mykill818<-

[RCA]

@ bmike818 and Chaotic_Warlord

I feel your pain with the MP. I was the guy in first place in my team EVERY MATCH and first place in my lobby usually but up till level 30 or so I was getting DEMOLISHED. Like my first 10+ kill game came around level 15ish.

[Nali]

I might swap PAS for a PM. Nali do PM add to these kill streaks?Also in your experience with Nukes, are they worth it? IDK if I could ever use them. Do you get them offen? How many kills do you get from them? Any special endings?

Yeah Predators add you you kills streak.

And dont use the nuke....please dont.It ends the game instantly and all you get is a special title and emblem for using it.

Why do i say dont use it....well it ends the game thats why. Which is a really douchebaggy move. You might as well be the host and back out. Yeah we get the win counted, but we still dont get any XP we could have won during the match.

I was playing an HQ match earlier and a guy ended the match when the score was 30 - 0. Basically right at the start of the game....really really annoying.The Nuke is my biggest gripe with MW2.Its just stupid.If you want the Nuke title you are almost guaranteed to get it by going Harrier - Chopper/Ac130 - Nuke.The chopper and Ac always get mad kills.

Side noteDecided to sell my dummy account and i got lotsa bites super fast, looks like ill be playing on my main this weekend.Hopefully you guys will be on to help me out.Level 1 is such a b**** in this game.
Modified by Nali at 2:22 AM 11/12/2009

[marlin29311]

Coolest thing about SP that I've noticed:

After the EMP goes off, your sights no longer work. Nice detail!