no need for sil80 conversions

[Eddie]

Why do a lot of 240 owners want to do sil80 conversions when you can just buy a USDM notch back s13. You get a 180sx front end whith an s13 silvia rear end. Isn't that a sil80?

[Anand]

ummm..... I'll pass on this one.....:rolleyes

[SeVa-S13]

I'm bored at class so I'll bite.

1. It's not a "notchback", it's a coupe.

2. While some people call the pop-ups on a coupe a "Sil80", the more popular (and annoyingly stupid) term is a "Onevia."

3. What most people view as a "Sil80" is an S13 hatchback with either an S13 or S15 Silvia front end conversion. (Fixed headlights)

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[jdmfreak]

No I believe a Sil-80 is using an S13 Silvia front with a 180sx rear. The 240sx fastback is basically a 180sx and the 240sx coupe is basically a Silvia without the Silvia front end. So putting the front end of a Silvia on a fastback=Sil-80 conversion or Sil-40 since its on a 240. And putting the Silvia front end on a coupe=Silvia conversion. Does that make sense? Cuz I kinda confused myself.

[Eddie]

If it's not a sil80, than is it an 80sil. From what jdmfreak03 and SeVa-s13 are telling me, it would be an 80sil since it has the front of a 180sx and the rear of a s13.

[leftovercrizack]

No sir.

[spec-u-later]

A sil80 is a 180 sx that has an sr20 in place of the ca18 and an s13 silvia front end conversion. 180's were hatchbacks like the 240 hatch but the tails were different. If you swap out the tails on your usdm to the jdm tails you will then have a 180 body conversion. Not until you do that, put in the sr20 and do an s13 front end conversion will you have a sil80.

[Eddie]

Ooooh, so that's what a sil80 is.......

[Eddie]

Would it be an 80sil if you dropped a SR in a usdm s13 coupe (notch back).

[spec-u-later]

Edit.

[spec-u-later]

Would it be an 80sil if you dropped a SR in a usdm s13 coupe (notch back).

No. 180's were only coupes. I guess if you do a front end conversion on a coupe and put in a ca you would get an 80sil

[Eddie]

I didn't realize it was so technical.

[spec-u-later]

Its not really. I dont care about sil80 or 80 sil or whatever you want to call it. It's just a name. There was no such car as a sil80, it was just something someone put together. Don't worry about names, they don't matter.

[Eddie]

So according to you spec-u-later a sil80 conversion has a lot to do with the engine , and not just the body conversion alone. It is a bit confusing.

Spec-u-later in regards to your first post, not all 180s came with CA18s.

[Eddie]

It doesnt matter to me, just seemed like a good discussion

[jdmfreak]

Well for the Sil80 conversion you'll need a fastback Silvia front end, 180sx side skirts and rear bumper, 180sx tail lights, corner lights(I think), and I believe a blacktop SR20 from a 180sx. Then you can go work on the interior from there.

[Shnitz]

ok, let's look at names for a sec.

Silvia180SX (when speaking, most commonly people just say "180")

so, a Sil80 is the front of a (hence: beginning it "Sil") and rear of a 180 (hence: 2nd half of word "180," or "80")

this became popular because many people like the fixed headlights better, also, it was cheaper to buy that front end if 180 owners damaged theirs. (referring to only the front end here, im not going into the rest of the body work)

now, i dont accept the "onevia" nomenclature if it isn't a conversion, you just have a 240 coupe. however, i do accept it if you say that you have a sil80, because you had to get a new front end. i guess, in japan, people can have onvia's, but i think it is a stupid name, and a stupid look, and a stupid idea, but that is why it didnt catch on. saying 80sil is just wrong, the idea of naming a hybrid just went way over your head.

the reason people do a "sil80" conversion is because they prefer the look of the fixed headlight front end, or if their front end gets messed up (which im seriously considering, my headlights are stuck in the up position right now)

[Eddie]

When I said 80sil, I did it only using the information that the other posters gave on the technicality on what is considered a sil80. I even referred to the posters name. So nothing went over my head. I think some people just don't want to admit that just because a S13 240sx coupe (trunk model) is not "JDM" than it can't be considered a true hybrid. So the usdm s13 coupe is a mutt. Whats the difference?

[jdmfreak]

Exactly! Too bad my explaination wasnt that simple.

[jdmfreak]

Lets make this short: No 80Sil1)Silvia front end on a 240 coupe=Silvia conversion2)Silvia front end on a 240 fastback=180 conversion

[Eddie]

hybrid is to car as mutt is to dog

[Eddie]

I guess no one likes my 80SIL idea. I guess I shouldn't do a 180 front conversion on my S14. JK

[fuzion]

who wants a cookie?

[Eddie]

I'm not hungry right now. Maybe later. Thanks though.

[916drifter]

In japan, Nissan did make a "sil-80" but didnt make that many in production becuz the idea came fron the streets and Nissan didnt want people to know they got it from the streets, therefor a very low production. And you can tell if it's a real sil eight bcuz in the middle of the "silvia" headlights it says "sileighty" instead of "silvia". Spec-u-Later - The jdm tail lights you are referring to are the "type-x" that only came out from 94-96 i believe. Other than that they have the same tail lights as use but with middle part saying "180sx" and the CA-18DET was only in the 88-90 180sx and silvias. the Redtop sr20det came out in 91-93and blacktop sr20det came out from 94-96 (kouki)in the type x. Tail lights dont really do a difference. ones a type x and the other is just stock.

[Japican]

I thought Nissan produced sil-80's.

[916drifter]

they did but not that many and not for a long time.

[spec-u-later]

No they didn't. Not nissan any way. It was after market like the Henesy viper.

[Japican]

hmmm.......ic

[916drifter]

Actually Nissan did make the Sil-Eighty, but not many becuz it was really popular. Do some research