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nitsujvg
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so i just got a new set of rota subzero's for my s13 hatch.

they're 18x7.5 +35, but they won't clear the springs up front. I'd say they're hitting about... 1.5-2 inches deep (from the back by the spring to the fender well). I dont even know by how much they're hitting the spring in height.. even on a jack the wheels are rubbing

the tires on them are 225-40.

I'm learning all of my car stuff on my s13.. but i know nothing about wheels. NICO Gods, please help!

im thinking that spacers would probably be a bad idea because like i said, they are about 1.5 inches too far into it. im so confused..


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simmode1
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Seriously. Sell them to someone who drives a Honda or Subaru. I hope you still have your old wheels, because those Sub Zeros are a complete loss.

Browse through this to get an idea of what fits on 240's...

zerothread/265282

I have run 30mm spacers before, but it's not something I recommend. Just get wheels that fit right the first time.

nitsujvg
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is that the only way to have them fit up front? im asking mainly because i got a very good deal on them, so it'd be more affordable to get them to fit than to buy a new set of wheels.

and i never had any other wheels to begin with, other than my blackies. which look sort of tacky and rice.

just out of curiosity, because I want to learn, I know most people recommend against spacers, but why? does it stress the lugs?

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nitsujvg wrote:is that the only way to have them fit up front? im asking mainly because i got a very good deal on them, so it'd be more affordable to get them to fit than to buy a new set of wheels.

and i never had any other wheels to begin with, other than my blackies. which look sort of tacky and rice.

just out of curiosity, because I want to learn, I know most people recommend against spacers, but why? does it stress the lugs?
First off, oem wheels or steelies are better than crappy fitting wheels.

The first set of wheels I ever bought were 17x7+42 with 215/45/17's and they fit (albeit very sunken) just fine. I put 30mm spacers on just to get them a little more flush, but they were major FAIL.

I think the reason your wheels aren't fitting is a combination of the high offset and too large of a tire. But even that +35 offset should be as recessed as you're describing. That's strange.

Here's the deal with spacers: On a 240, 5-7mm is the widest slip-on spacer you'd want to consider. Beyond that, you are stressing your studs too much and risk breaking them.

Bolt on spacers allow more spacing without the stressed out studs. But the issue with bolt ons is that you're gonna have two sets of studs sticking out of your hub and trying to go into the same wheel where there are only enough holes for one set of studs.

There are 2 ways around that problem and only one that I consider safe. Solution 1 - Use 30mm spacers because they protrude the same distance as your stock studs and allow the wheel to sit flush and be bolted on properly.

Solution 2 - Use whatever size smaller than 30mm that you want and cut off the excess stud material sticking out. But I've heard this can weaken the strength of the stud.

So, IMO... your best solution would be to use 30mm spacers and get smaller tires (like 195/35/18).

But have you looked at the price of 30mm spacers?! They're like around $100 for two! And by the time you've bought smaller tires, you could have sold this whole setup for something alot better.

Really OP, it's not worth it to go thru the hassle of making those wheels fit. Put them on Craigslist for ~$400 obo, put your steelies back on for a little while and then hit the Nico and Zilvia classifieds for a much better setup on the cheap.

Just my opinion.

Edit:zer...54018

S14's like 18's better than s13's do.

Something like this would be a good starter wheel for you...zer...-area
Modified by simmode1 at 10:20 PM 7/6/2009

nitsujvg
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thank you tons simmode :]

that seriously helps a lot and I actually did throw them on craigslist to see what i can get out of them.

its the people like you that make nico a friendly place. glad i didnt get flamed for asking what im sure is a retardedly simple question.

anyway, thanks again. i took a look at the other rims but unfortunately im a college student so money is tight!haha.

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^^^ No problem, yo. I would call your question 'retardedly simple'. It takes most ppl a while to understand wheel fitment. I know it took me a while...


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