need HELP with D2 coilovers

Post by **unfrgivn** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

Well we'll see how long the D2's last, but mine are perfect in every way. Between the same setup S13 with FLAT-2's and mine with the D2's, I cannot tell a difference. I have not taken mine to the track yet (Summit Point in September), but a buddy of mine has already done some drift, autox, road course, and says they're unbelievable. The quality and craftsmanship of my set was just as impressive as any I've seen, and until I see a reoccuring legitimate fault in them, I think they are so far and away the best bang for buck ever.

I will agree that the fact that are not matched to spring rate is a little sketchy. In fact that was my main concern with buying them, but I have the 7/5 and I couldn't be happier. Really can't wait to get on a real track, I've heard nothing but good things. I guess only the future will tell how good they really are.

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

^^^^whats does "not matched to spring rates" mean???? and you think that 8/6 is too stiff for daily driving and occasional autoxing????

Post by **Def** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

A damper only has a certain range where it can properly damp the spring rates. Just like you cannot slap a 9 kg/mm spring on a stock shock and expect it to proper dampen it since it was designed for a 2 kg/mm spring - you can't put something like a 15 kg/mm spring on an aftermarket shock designed for an 8 kg/mm spring.

I might send a front and rear K-Sport coilover to Koni whenever I get mine. I'll probably just slap them on then send them off when I've got alot of downtime though. It'd be alot of the questions about these dampers to rest or end up vindicating them.

Post by **santi** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

i am about to recieve my k sports.. i hope they are worth the 720 and the long wait.. but from a broke a$$ stand point.. and a car with coilover sleeves on it and shocks that bottom out on every bump. i dont think i'll be disapointed unless sumthin is exceptionaly wrong with them..i've ridden on jic's and tein.. and both are phenominal.. but i cant afford that.. so if i get sumthin that isnt quite as good i know exactly why.. my wallet aint that deep.. so i wont be mad or disapointed or complain about it ..

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

yup have no idea what you just said!

Post by **santi** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

me .?? just sayin i cant complain about these coilovers not beein as good as all the expensive ones b/c i know i'm not payin as much.. is my english really that bad?

Post by **crzycav86** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

I understood it perfectly.

Post by **unfrgivn** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

santi wrote:i am about to recieve my k sports.. i hope they are worth the 720 and the long wait.. but from a broke a$$ stand point.. and a car with coilover sleeves on it and shocks that bottom out on every bump. i dont think i'll be disapointed unless sumthin is exceptionaly wrong with them..i've ridden on jic's and tein.. and both are phenominal.. but i cant afford that.. so if i get sumthin that isnt quite as good i know exactly why.. my wallet aint that deep.. so i wont be mad or disapointed or complain about it ..

Well you won't be dissapointed, these are top quality and neither my friends who have them or myself have one complaint thus far.

Post by **trixracing** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

Ksport does not recommend using a spring rate varied more than 2kg on the same shock, some people are saying they are stupid for saying you can put 3.5kg and change to 15kg.

Some people requested the really high rates, and they are the customer so we comply.

And why would someone send a Ksport coilover to Koni? Are they gonna say " wow these are better than ours you should buy them."

Maybe ill send my 240 to chevrolet in detroit and let them tell me how good it is.

Post by **santi** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

thanks for that unfrgivn. i didnt think i would be disappointed.. my brother showed me the post and i ordered the coilovers with camber plates the same day. and the bad things i've heard are from one or two ppl .. not a whole batch.. i'm excited so i'm still glad i ordered them.. and trixracing i wondered about the koni thing too but i just keep it to myself. peace love and engine grease

Post by **crzycav86** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

trixracing wrote:Ksport does not recommend using a spring rate varied more than 2kg on the same shock, some people are saying they are stupid for saying you can put 3.5kg and change to 15kg.

Some people requested the really high rates, and they are the customer so we comply.

And why would someone send a Ksport coilover to Koni? Are they gonna say " wow these are better than ours you should buy them."

Maybe ill send my 240 to chevrolet in detroit and let them tell me how good it is.

Did d2 recommend a 9/5 spring rate for the 240sx applications?

Also, the reason someone suggested sending the coilovers to koni is because they do free shock dyno tests. They're not giving their opinon on the coilovers, they just print out a dyno sheet with hard numbers... not to mention it's free.

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

aww man well thats sweet let us know when that gets done... and i was talking to DEF. yeah my bad. and is 8/6 too stiff or what???

Post by **unfrgivn** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

Not if you have a pair... 7/5 feels fine for driving daily and I drive on some ****ty roads. If my girlfriend hasn't *****ed about 7/5, then you shouldn't about 8/6.

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

smooth, thanks!

Post by **trixracing** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

dont know what d2 recommends but ksport recommends a 7/5 spring rate for the 240sx

Post by **santi** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

i didnt know that about the koni shock dyno thing.. that sounds kool

Post by **crzycav86** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

trixracing wrote:dont know what d2 recommends but ksport recommends a 7/5 spring rate for the 240sx

d2 = ksport

They're just different names. Kinda like how japan has the nissan silvia, and europe has the 200sx.

Anyway, would you mind letting koni test a front and rear coilover with those spring rates? I wouldn't mind paying the shipping fee if that's what you're worried about.

Post by **trixracing** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

d2 is not ksport, if you see both you can tell the difference, ksport is a redisgned d2, trust me. Adjustment and machining is different, base strut is the same, i saw them both being manufactured.

If a customer wishes to send koni one thats fine, im not. Im sure Tein wouldnt send a coilover to koni, nor would tanabe.

Post by **crzycav86** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

hmmm.. d2 lied to me then. They said they're the same thing, but the dampening adjustment mechanism is different...

trixracing wrote:If a customer wishes to send koni one thats fine, im not. Im sure Tein wouldnt send a coilover to koni, nor would tanabe.

You aren't k-sport, now are you? But I suppose you don't have to. It would help out hundreds of people though.. and those extra sets aren't doing any good collecting dust.

Post by **trixracing** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

That is true, the dampening is different along with other exterior changes, the strut is made by the same factory. Our parent corperation owns Ksport USA, and im not sure what extra sets you are referring to.

Post by **crzycav86** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

You guys led a group buy for ksport. Don't you have any extras in stock that you'll be selling at a higher price?

Post by **trixracing** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

only like 2 sets

Post by **sil80drifter** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

i believe k sports had dust boots come with the coilovers. how come you guys can't include a set of them with your coilovers, i mean that's just basic smarts, most other manufcaturers do. without them the dampeners go back real quick, with all the dirt and water, especially in the northeastern states. it's just some rubber boots, I'm sure you could get them real cheap in bulk and not even have to increase the price by much (if at all).

sil80

Post by **crzycav86** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

The bottom part of the dust boot also acts as a bumpstop... the d2's came with them.. I don't know why the ksports supposedly dont...

Post by **trixracing** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

The D2 coilovers do not have a bumpstop, on the 240 applications, neither do the Ksport, they are not necessary.

Post by **sil80drifter** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

Ok, so no bumpstops. Back to dustboots. Slap some on, will ya?

Also, where is mark? I lost the thread where he left his phone and email for me to order the D2s from him directly, and I know in a month I'll have the cash, so how can I get a hold of him?

ALSO! Why the hell is private messaging disabled by admins?!

sil80

Post by **crzycav86** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

My d2's have dustboots. They also have what appears to be bumpstops.

trix: why do you say they are not necessary?

Post by **sil80drifter** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

both D2s and KSports came with dustboots. It shows in the pics of them.

sil80

Post by **santi** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

i have a dust boot on my k sports (s13 model)

Post by **trixracing** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm

Unless you go with a 3 kg spring or so it is near impossible to bottom out the shock to full compression. Some applications do require them with shorter shock travel, just not this one.

need HELP with D2 coilovers

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