My Vert 5spd swap and other work

Post by **biggie** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:31 am

Should be starting Friday, I'll use this thread to update with any info/pics hopefully.

Any thoughts or recommendations? Been almost 6 years since my last 5speed swap on my old coupe. Friend had a wrecked car that we pulled everything from and all I've purchased was a basic Exedy clutch.

Oh and did get my VLSD back (bought in '03 from PDM with 30k km on it, sold with old shell after total, and its made its way back without it being in another car the whole time). And picked up an alum 1-piece DS used from a friend as well.

Wiring is the only part I hate, and I've never dealt with the top wiring on Verts.

Wish us luck.

Post by **94_240sx** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:38 am

Wiring will be the easiest part of the swap.

Post by **biggie** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:43 am

94_240sx wrote:Wiring will be the easiest part of the swap.

You don't know my hatred of wires. Big hands + wires = always suck.

Post by **matty boi** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:35 pm

nope wiring is super easy.

Post by **biggie** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:54 am

Started last Friday.

Some of the most pain in the a** bolts/parts ever.

One tranny bolt caused us to removed the DP and still barely get it broke loose. The AT metal 'slug' in the crank took over 2 hours and dozens of tools used by a friend to get out.

Did get the VLSD, the pilot bushing, and new rear main seal installed. That's about it.

Still to do:install flywheelinstall clutchswap crossmembers on the trannysinstall 5spd trannyinstall DSmove steering column out of way to get AT brake pedal outinstall MT clutch/brake pedal (cut hole for clutch master)do wiring

A few random pics:

Post by **94_240sx** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:41 am

Goo job! Those seats...

Post by **krash** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:48 am

Axes, oil, and driveshafts. Thats the man corner.

looks like its coming along good. I'm actually doing the same thing right now, my auto tranny died. Is jacking the car up like that safe?

Post by **biggie** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:46 am

The whole house is a 'man corner'.The stands are on the jack points, so yeah should be safe.Did get the OEM flywheel and exedy basic clutch mounted today.

Post by **krash** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:39 pm

sweet, I'm going to set mine up like that tonight. dang, I haven't even taken my auto tranny off yet. I'm still working on the converter. You're probably going to finish first haha

Post by **-RJ-** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:12 pm

krash wrote:

Axes, oil, and driveshafts. Thats the man corner.

its missing alcohol and p0rn

Post by **biggie** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:32 am

Anyone seen a good price on a Rubber Nismo GT shift knob?

Post by **94_240sx** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:51 am

biggie wrote:Anyone seen a good price on a Rubber Nismo GT shift knob?

$51.25It's a pretty good price for the brand new one.

http://www.mynismo.com/products/?id=2362

Post by **biggie** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:01 am

94_240sx wrote:
$51.25It's a pretty good price for the brand new one.

http://www.mynismo.com/products/?id=2362

Yeah, saw that, most places are right at $50, just been hoping for a deal.

Have to get a new shift boot and probably some cheap short shifter as well, just looking around for good deals. May try the cheap ebay B&M knockoff for the shifter.

Post by **krash** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:45 am

biggie wrote:
May try the cheap ebay B&M knockoff for the shifter.

I was just about to suggest that. If you get it let me know how it feels

Post by **biggie** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:35 am

krash wrote:
I was just about to suggest that. If you get it let me know how it feels

Will do, will probably be after tax return, need to make sure I pay off the credit card first.

Post by **Harman850T5** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:45 pm

biggie wrote: May try the cheap ebay B&M knockoff for the shifter.

I bought one of those during my swap, one of the bolt holes didn't line up, and one of the guys at work said his rattled like crazy when he had one. So I opted to get the other cheap ebay short shifter.

Swap is coming along nicely though.

Post by **biggie** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:11 am

Harman850T5 wrote:
I bought one of those during my swap, one of the bolt holes didn't line up, and one of the guys at work said his rattled like crazy when he had one. So I opted to get the other cheap ebay short shifter.

Swap is coming along nicely though.

Hmm, might still try it. Usually some rattling can be helped with changing to the OEM white nylon bushing. It is cheap though, so won't kill me if it doesn't work out.

...trying to patiently wait on tax documents.

Post by **krash** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:25 pm

biggie just giving you a heads up on the pedal installation if you haven't gotten there yet. If you can, pull the dashboard out. it only takes an hour and it makes a world of a difference when drilling the holes. I pulled the dash and then that a/c duct, and it was so much easier to do everything. You might even have enough room if you just take off that a/c duct.

Good luck

Post by **biggie** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:34 am

krash wrote:biggie just giving you a heads up on the pedal installation if you haven't gotten there yet. If you can, pull the dashboard out. it only takes an hour and it makes a world of a difference when drilling the holes. I pulled the dash and then that a/c duct, and it was so much easier to do everything. You might even have enough room if you just take off that a/c duct.

Good luck

Just dropping the steering column to do the pedals. Just waiting on a friend to bring a couple tools to try to finish up. Hopefully this weekend.

Post by **krash** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:08 am

lol, yea I figure out you could do that AFTER I pulled the dash out. since you've done the swap before, any advice on installing the actual tranny? I'm having a hell of a time. Rotated the trans and everything, theres just not enough space

Post by **biggie** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:37 am

I assume the engine is still in the car. If so you'll need to jack up the front of the engine by the oil pan (gently and not too much as to not dent the pan). When the AT tranny comes out the engine tilts forward, making it harder to line up the input shaft.

Post by **matty boi** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:20 pm

biggie wrote:May try the cheap ebay B&M knockoff for the shifter.

i used one for my swap, same flaw that the knockoffs have one hole doesnt line up, i had a greddy shifter housing that i used instead of the flawed one. other than that the shifter is great.

as for the auto pilot bushing adapter thing in the flywheel i used a pipe wrench to twist it off while a friend held the crank from turning with a ratchet. took less than five mins just a tip for any future guys or girls looking to swap their tranny.

Post by **biggie** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:36 am

matty boi wrote:as for the auto pilot bushing adapter thing in the flywheel i used a pipe wrench to twist it off while a friend held the crank from turning with a ratchet. took less than five mins just a tip for any future guys or girls looking to swap their tranny.

Apparently they make a tool with a slide hammer than can get it out and you can use a 1/2 inch extension, stick it in and pry it out as well.

Found that out after we spent all the time with everything else. We tried the pipe wrench/vise grips, it spun but wouldn't come out.

Post by **krash** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:41 am

thanks for the help, I didn't even think about tilting the engine. Went right in after some persuasion Are you stuck on the AT slug?

Post by **biggie** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:24 pm

krash wrote:thanks for the help, I didn't even think about tilting the engine. Went right in after some persuasion Are you stuck on the AT slug?

No, got it out last weekend. Just waiting on a friend to have some time to help/bring some tools I don't have.

Have to finish getting the steering column out of the way (alarm wires are holding it up), then cut the clutch hole, mount clutch/brake, and put in tranny/DS.

I also discovered that the car apparently was wrecked sometime, not too bad, but have some warps/crinkles/holes/rust under the battery tray. So after the 5 speed is done I'll be taking off passenger fender/bumper and seeing what I can do.

Post by **wmdavis007** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:33 pm

biggie wrote:Anyone seen a good price on a Rubber Nismo GT shift knob?

I was really thinking of picking up one of these shift knobs after trying many different ones. I used the OEM stock 240 knob, two or three MOMO knobs, a S15 knob, then a Nismo chrome aluminum one...which I loved...until the summer. It would get so hot I would have to cover it with a sock or towel. Then I came across one called The Hammer, it's a weighted stock looking leather shift knob. I always had read about the great feel of a weighted shift knob with a short shifter...so I tried it....and it's the best hands down (to me). And it's less then $20. It's actually a Mitsubishi stock knob. Here is a link:http://www.nissanparts.cc/catalog/?section=1046

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Post by **BiXLL** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:33 am

I have that same knob and love it!

Post by **biggie** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:22 am

I've got the Nismo GT in my coupe already so I'm use to it.

Post by **biggie** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:54 am

Got the pedals in. Just have to take the clutch line off of the slave/dampner to route behind the A/C line and then put in the master cylinder.

Pilot bushing is too tight though, gotta rent the puller again and swap the pilot bushing, so tranny isn't in yet.

Post by **biggie** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:35 am

Oh, also found a step drill bit that goes up to 1 3/8 inch at harbor Freight, it worked perfectly to fit the clutch master cylinder through the firewall.

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