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dontbugme wrote:That is your personal choice. I have heard exactly the same for Toyotas and Hondas concerning their ease of use. The 300ZX was also a nightmare in the engine bay.

Manufacturer's buy backs do get reported, and it happens with every car manufacturer. However this case you're presenting does not support your argument against Dodge. You need to have evidence for your accusations, not what you "think." It's such rationality that brings progress in the world and leave people with hard prejudices in their mind behind.

Who said you're limited to OEM stages? Now this is where your own ignorance comes into play. You're not limited to Mopar kits. There's a huge aftermarket as well for SRT-4's. Many owners, like myself, mix and match staged kits with aftermarket....and many who ignore Mopar altogether. A Stage 1 with WGA and SAFC will outrun a Stage 2. A Stage 3 with the same addon and 60 TB can easily get you past 400whp. Or an aftermarket 50 trim kit can get you closer to 500whp....on stock internals with great reliability.

Well let me humor you for a second. For 22k, you can get an 04 SRT with low milage for about $17-$18, and put in a 50 trim turbo kit with the rest. That setup will be faster than a 400hp 240SX, have a brand new appearance compared to a decade old car, great interior and clean engine bay, and be in much better condition. Is that worth the extra premium? Looking at pictures of your own 240SX here:zerothread?id=150045

Compared to any well kept SRT-4, I'd say yes....a big yes.

Again I'm not knocking on you or your car at all. Your methods of comparing dollar for dollar of an old car vs new isn't really valid, as I've explained above. For less money you could take a 95 DSM and build it faster than a brand new 350Z, or heck a C6 Corvette. That's not the point. Does it bother me other people can make a faster vehicle than my 05 SRT-4 with much less money on an old car? Not at all....(case in point, my brother has a 12 second 1991 integra) because I take pride in a brand new car. In fact, I traded in a 1995 Eagle Talon Tsi for the SRT-4....I built the Talon to be much faster, but I needed something new. I didn't like the ghetto feeling I had anymore with such an old car.
i agree with you on the 300z. it is a pain in the *** to work on. but i still like working on them better than a transversly mounted engine.

i can understand wanting the reliability of a newer car.

and I will admit that some people have different experiences with certain brands than others. Maybe I drove a ****ty srt4, but i find that unlikly.

my car is a project, I will admit it, but when it is done, it will look just as good as any new car.

that instance that i used as an example was not a buyback. and they claimed that it was not a defect but paid for it anyway. so that they would not have to report it. and that was not an oppinon. that happened. (chrysler concord)

I take pride in the work that I do in a car, you take pride in owning a new car. that is just different stroke for different folks.


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its funny how my SR at 15psi on the T25 tore my friends SRT4 a new *** even with his precious Mopar Stage 1 kit. Ive spent $6k on my 240 where your SRT4 costs $20k plus and i have the better car. Guess you payed too much. All the SRT4 has is new paint and the same Chrysler craftsmanship that there known for which isnt very high quality.

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DrifterProdigy85 wrote:its funny how my SR at 15psi on the T25 tore my friends SRT4 a new *** even with his precious Mopar Stage 1 kit. Ive spent $6k on my 240 where your SRT4 costs $20k plus and i have the better car. Guess you payed too much. All the SRT4 has is new paint and the same Chrysler craftsmanship that there known for which isnt very high quality.
Alright kids, Like I said in the very beggining, I didn't start this thread to be trashing each other's vehicle. I just expected my project car (sr20det) to be faster than my SRT4. Shame on you guys to argue on who's pen15 is bigger. I know it's not mine....lol. Anyways, stop this nonsense.

DrifterProdigy85, you saw my mod at the very beggining of this thread what am I missing and what are your mods. Have you had your's tuned?

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Sorry one last thing, I do like the srt's my friend has one its a great car and it's cool cause its brand new and all. But the mystery is gone, you see a 240 coming down the road, is it turbo, is it not, ka-t, sr, rb ect. or just stock with a grandma that dosnt know what she's got. Its the mystery that it holds, and the sleeper potential, no SRT could have that.

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i think you need 3in exhaust to free up some more power. In a 1/4 you should be trapping around a 102-103mph which is fast enough to beat an EVO from a roll. AWD cars die fast the higher in speed you take them. My car did have a tuned ECU from Japan (similar to Enthalpy) which was a little better than the stock tune but with your 12psi you should still take an EVO.

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DrifterProdigy85 wrote:its funny how my SR at 15psi on the T25 tore my friends SRT4 a new *** even with his precious Mopar Stage 1 kit. Ive spent $6k on my 240 where your SRT4 costs $20k plus and i have the better car. Guess you payed too much. All the SRT4 has is new paint and the same Chrysler craftsmanship that there known for which isnt very high quality.
I find it funny you think your 1989 gold colored piece of **** that's probably not even worth 6k is actually the better car.





Yeah, it's obvious you have the better car.

My brother's gutted 2200lb integra only cost him $2000....and he runs 12's with the basic mods he put in. I guess he has the better car, and you payed too much for yours. Matter of fact, a 1987 RX-7 is a better car than yours...you paid too much. Wait a second, so is a 1981 Corvette. I guess you paid too much.

By the way, do you know how much power a stage 1 on an SRT-4 adds compared to a stage 3?

Here's a Stage 1+ SRT-4 (Stage 1 + WGA, CAI, full exhaust) vs a SR20 240SX, R32, and pure Stage 2 SRT-4 that someone recently uploaded (yeah, beginning is a little cheesy):http://videos.streetfire.net/v...D.htm


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dontbugme wrote:
I find it funny you think your 1989 gold colored piece of **** that's probably not even worth 6k is actually the better car.





Yeah, it's obvious you have the better car.

My brother's gutted 2200lb integra only cost him $2000....and he runs 12's with the basic mods he put in. I guess he has the better car, and you payed too much for yours. Matter of fact, a 1987 RX-7 is a better car than yours...you paid too much. Wait a second, so is a 1981 Corvette. I guess you paid too much.

By the way, do you know how much power a stage 1 on an SRT-4 adds compared to a stage 3?

Here's a Stage 1+ SRT-4 (Stage 1 + WGA, CAI, full exhaust) vs a SR20 240SX, R32, and pure Stage 2 SRT-4 that someone recently uploaded (yeah, beginning is a little cheesy):http://videos.streetfire.net/v...D.htm
stop the hate'n

FYI, I almost got beat by some punk in a moded hatchback civic today in my SRT4. I let him go first and decided to play catch up. Started to reel him in, but traffic got heavy so I let go and he kept going. In the end I could have eventually catch him if not for the traffic. Point of story is that he is probably posting somewhere on the web beating an srt4. I have beaten a lot of cars with my sr20 (s13) and srt4 but I don't post every wins, by god there would be a book.
DrifterProdigy85 wrote:i think you need 3in exhaust to free up some more power. In a 1/4 you should be trapping around a 102-103mph which is fast enough to beat an EVO from a roll. AWD cars die fast the higher in speed you take them. My car did have a tuned ECU from Japan (similar to Enthalpy) which was a little better than the stock tune but with your 12psi you should still take an EVO.
Yeah, I think I'm runnin a bit rich

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you will have the good and the bad with used, i guarantee not all your cars will look showroom fresh in 10 or 15 years...

just chill guys

we can have cars like that too, its not like theyre all junkyard shells, example:

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hey! where'd you get that pic of my ride?! haha j/k

that's ****ing sweet. can we finally end this lame thread?

240's pwn. we all know that....this is a nissan/infiniti forum right?

and besides? when's the last time you've seen an srt4 up in the mountains, tearing up the twisties but ALSO run a crazy 1/4. probably never. that's why 240's rule. go fast straight. go fast sideways. go fast period. AND THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS.


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Beemen550 wrote:
hell no, a stock meaning no stages srt-4 is like a mid to low 14 sec car, and if u cant hit 13's in your evo then damn it aint the car its YOU.
I've actually seen so many stock SRT-4s run high 13s at the drags all day long it ain't funny anymore. The EVO crowd I've seen a variety from mid 14s down to high 12s.

Good race though!

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dontbugme wrote:Matter of fact, a 1987 RX-7 is a better car than yours...you paid too much.
Thats because an RX-7 does not work based on physics. The rotary engines functionality is based on magic and makes absolutly no sense.

I mean seriously, you can get just as much power, if not more, out of those things by doing some crazy port jobs than you can throwing a turbo on.

i <3 rotarys.

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I'd rather have the 240 any day

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Who freakn cares. SR powered s-chassis are cool + fun. SRT4's are cool + fun. Evo's are cool + fun. Each has its own strong points and each has their own weaknesses. Comparing them is dumb.

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karmakaze wrote:At least Ford understands the concept of quality and workmanship.
I used to own a mustang and all I have to say to someone putting quality and ford in the same sentence is: LOL

BTW: If you want to compare your car to something worth shaking a stick at. Go race a Corvette: right now at 12psi on my VVT-S14 SR20 powered '89 240sx(S15 turbo), 3in turbo back exhaust, long tube header, NISMO LSD, Aluminum driveshaft, Splitfire Coil packs, Hyper Grounding sytem, and several other refinements.....all suspension completely redone... all properly dyno tuned; I am neck and neck with a stock 2002 Corvette on the 1/4 mile and Cornering in AutoX style racing.

If you think thats no big deal; go race any C-5 Corvette... I know youll get walked on because Ive been in that Corvette when its spanked everything you guys have mentioned in this forum so far.

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dontbugme wrote:
the srt4 is a cheap sports car for people who can not afford a real sports car.

This coming from someone driving a ghetto 240SX. LOL..
he's got you there, haha!
karmakaze wrote:you can always still laugh at srt4 drivers though because they are driving a neon with the engine from a pt crusier.

i swear, srt4 owners are worse than honda drivers. hell i would rather driver a civic than those dodge pieces of ****. i cant wait to see how poorly they hold up after they start to age.
yes, I am sure ALL the srt4 and honda drivers are bad. Stereotyping a large population really delivers your point.

honda and srt4 really isn't that bad just because they are fwd.

admit it, 240sx woudl NEVER have been popular without the recent uproar of the drift scene. It is an overrated car just like the ae86.

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yea i paid 300 for the car and had the SR swapped in and have been adding parts onto it for the past year. Performance wise the car is worth every penny of that and more. Yea the SRT4 looks better than my car, it costs $20k more so it should look better. But in the end your still gonna have a Neon. Hooray for you having a better looking car because its Function over Form with the 240 crowd. Im gonna have over 350whp next week with the car looking just like in the picture. I cant wait for some cocky SRT4 mother f*cker to try to race me and have my Terd blow his *** away.

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Loveless wrote:
admit it, 240sx woudl NEVER have been popular without the recent uproar of the drift scene. It is an overrated car just like the ae86.
I due believe the 240 becoming more and more popular to date from drifting but it has always been a decently known car. Hell, they even used an S14 in the first F&F movie before drifting became popular. I bought my first one over 2 year ago and didnt even know what drifting was and just wanted a lightweight RWD car to drive. If i didnt have a 240, i would probably have a Mustang, Camaro, or Trans Am. RWD has a much better driving feel over FWD cars IMO.

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fwd is pointless for anything besides drag racing above about 275 whp, and theres a lot of cars that itd be nice to beat that can go faster than a car with 275 fwhp

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nismofly wrote:you will have the good and the bad with used, i guarantee not all your cars will look showroom fresh in 10 or 15 years...

just chill guys

we can have cars like that too, its not like theyre all junkyard shells, example:
i love that pic, its my background i want my car to look that clean

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Holy crap, this thread just went down the toilet. Anyway... how did a Dodge guy ended up in a Nissan forum? Dude, you know that your car will get bash in here right?? Just like if I was to go and post in a Dodge forum, I'd get my a$$ bashed.

I have a buddy who went from a B18C powered EG6 to a SRT4 and I didn't think it was that great... if it is to you, hey, great, keep driving it... besides it would suck if everyone drives my baby around.

Anyway... in my world, my S13 kicks all, it's even a great chick magnet, even if I get walked by a pos junker, I still love my S13, if you don't like it, go away because this is my fourm praising my car, not yours, so BYE! <--- Not directed at any one person.

Oh, did I mention, S13 OWNS!!

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240sxHitman wrote:i love that pic, its my background i want my car to look that clean
i remember when it was first posted like a year ago, everybody was like "omg what body and stuff is that"

its just a kouki 180sx type x with nice paint, wheels, exhaust and dropped on coilovers

i happen to know theres more done to it, but thats all you can see in the pic

kouki body parts, those technospeeds, coilovers and an exhaust, and nice paint, and thats what your car would look like
Silvia007 wrote:Holy crap, this thread just went down the toilet. Anyway... how did a Dodge guy ended up in a Nissan forum? Dude, you know that your car will get bash in here right?? Just like if I was to go and post in a Dodge forum, I'd get my a$$ bashed.
somebody on the srt forum posted a link to the thread, they came over

simple as that

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Silvia007 wrote:Holy crap, this thread just went down the toilet. Anyway... how did a Dodge guy ended up in a Nissan forum? Dude, you know that your car will get bash in here right?? Just like if I was to go and post in a Dodge forum, I'd get my a$$ bashed.

I have a buddy who went from a B18C powered EG6 to a SRT4 and I didn't think it was that great... if it is to you, hey, great, keep driving it... besides it would suck if everyone drives my baby around.

Anyway... in my world, my S13 kicks all, it's even a great chick magnet, even if I get walked by a pos junker, I still love my S13, if you don't like it, go away because this is my fourm praising my car, not yours, so BYE! <--- Not directed at any one person.

Oh, did I mention, S13 OWNS!!
apparently you didn't read the very begining of the post. I have both sr20det and srt4. I said that I was happy with the results of my sr20 against my buddies evo. I just wished I would have at least walked him like I walked him on my SRT4. Why can't anybody just leave it at that. Why is it impossible to believe that an SRT4 can walk on an evo. Have you looked at the trap speed on both? or is your s13 stuck up your a$$ so high you just think your car is the best. Anyway, I love my s13 and I am still not finished with it. I probably had my 240 before you even knew what a ka was actually before you even got your driver's license. I never once trashed anybody's car in here. I never once said that my SRT4 is better than any body elses s13 in here. What I said is that my srt4 is faster than my s13. Look at my sr20 mods at the very begining and one would expect to walk on a stock evo but it didn't.

s13.... FYI I have spent so many hours on my 240 and she will always be my baby.

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yeah i have that 180 as my desktop and my myspace page.IMO that is one of the most beatiful cars ever made besides s15's and r32's.o yeah and the all mightey sil80

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Silvia007 wrote:Holy crap, this thread just went down the toilet. Anyway... how did a Dodge guy ended up in a Nissan forum? Dude, you know that your car will get bash in here right?? Just like if I was to go and post in a Dodge forum, I'd get my a$$ bashed.

I have a buddy who went from a B18C powered EG6 to a SRT4 and I didn't think it was that great... if it is to you, hey, great, keep driving it... besides it would suck if everyone drives my baby around.

Anyway... in my world, my S13 kicks all, it's even a great chick magnet, even if I get walked by a pos junker, I still love my S13, if you don't like it, go away because this is my fourm praising my car, not yours, so BYE! <--- Not directed at any one person.

Oh, did I mention, S13 OWNS!!

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fregisr wrote:apparently you didn't read the very begining of the post. I have both sr20det and srt4. I said that I was happy with the results of my sr20 against my buddies evo. I just wished I would have at least walked him like I walked him on my SRT4. Why can't anybody just leave it at that. Why is it impossible to believe that an SRT4 can walk on an evo. Have you looked at the trap speed on both? or is your s13 stuck up your a$$ so high you just think your car is the best. Anyway, I love my s13 and I am still not finished with it. I probably had my 240 before you even knew what a ka was actually before you even got your driver's license. I never once trashed anybody's car in here. I never once said that my SRT4 is better than any body elses s13 in here. What I said is that my srt4 is faster than my s13. Look at my sr20 mods at the very begining and one would expect to walk on a stock evo but it didn't.

s13.... FYI I have spent so many hours on my 240 and she will always be my baby.

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Come on man, it was just a opinion. I never said a SRT4 was crap. I just said I wasn't impressed and that's just my opinion, I'm not shoving that down anyones throat. Of course I wouldn't take a SRT4 lightly if I should line up with one. The main reason why I liked my S13 so much, not so much any other car even if it is another S13 is because every mod that's done on my car, I put my own sweat and blood into, countless hours of research and effort. Every wire spliced in my swap was done by me, and I'm proud of it even though it may not be impressive to anyone else. Which is why, it may seem that my s13 is infact shoved rather far up my butt. I just expected the SRT4 to have a bit more power comming from a 2.4 liter turbo which leads to my only disappointment with the car, but don't think I'm ignorant, I know full well it can be made extremely fast with simple mods.

All in all, being that every one of my friends, not one, have the same car as the other, I come from a pretty diverse background and I do know a little about their cars as when it comes time to mod someones car, we always have a beer party.

Oh and fregisr, My previous post wasn't directed at you, I know you have a S13, you were the one who started the thread and my first post was just in agreement. It was just a generalized post. If it didn't sound like it, I must of been on the bottle. I apologize.

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srt4 didn't impress me that much either when I first drove it. But the second time I test drove, it was a different beast. The first dealer probably put some cheap gas. But here is a link when my and buddy was searching for cars. http://www.neontuners.com/viewtopic.php?t=1169as you can see I was very disappointed. Point of my case is that every car is different... but it's all cool. Now back to my SR20 project, I know what you mean by blood and sweat put into your car. I have touch every inch and every part of my car except for that turvbo seal that is leaking coolant that I need to replace soon......lol

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well i fell in luv with tha srt 4 with tha stage 3 package....THOSE THINGS ARE BEASTS....**** ya cant beat luvin a car tha has no traction in 1-2 or half or 3rd....my vote is for a neon i would trade ANYDAY FOR ONE.

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HOLY CRAP!!! i just said that i got beat by an srt4. honestly to you all. there is a difference between the NEON and the SRT4. now its the srt4 that will tear you apart and the neon that we o so love to flame on because its most likly one of the ppl riding by with a red car and black primerd body kit *cough next street over* and an older neon with an srt4 swap will yet again definatly destroy you. this guy had stage 2 and a down-pipe and just went flying by. its fast whether you like it or nor. oh and yes the older neon with the srt4 swap i seven more faster so be careful who ur making fun of.

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Can I lock this thread yet?


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