My 93 Maxima SE (Pic's heavy)

[Elusivemax93]

this exterior mod has been in the works for over probably 2 years when i first started gathering the front and rear clips. not til july last year was it when we started to cut and hack on the chassis. and slowly gathering parts needed to continue on the process. recently its slowed down due to cost plus waiting for the front bumper from do luck of japan. still waiting on it to come in. believe me this build is not cheap by any means and just because ive done the exterior doesnt mean its finished once its put together and painted. after that will come building engine and transmission and later interior and sound. its a long term project that has high goals.

[jrano89]

Oh most def! I'm not sure I have it in me to plan and proceed with such a long and tedious project. But you're doing something you're passionate about, I mean even as far as you are now with it I'm amazed and jealous. When you're 100% complete, if you don't cry of joy, don't worry, I'll cry for you! Lol n I hope you continue updating this cause I feel like I'm on this journey with you!

[Elusivemax93]

Hood has arrived at the body guys shop and starting monday fitment and alterations to the hood and fenders. and then he will get me the price of the final pieces we have to do. roof dent repair plus hail dents. altering rear skyline side spats and repairing the rear bumper of a hole and imperfections.

Should hopefully be getting the car back to my place by june or july before paint. so i can put the engine and transmission back in so when he goes to paint its less risk of scratching the paint. plus i have to start looking for the person who will be air brushing something i need done. as i dont wanna lay down an air brush on top of clear coat rather lay it on top of paint before the clear.

[JB'sTitanXD]

awesome build

[Elusivemax93]

This isn't even nearing the end of the build. once body and paint are done I have a spare ve30de I will be building for twin turbo. Plus building up my transmission with a set of $5,000.00 gears rated for 650+hp. Still more to come from my own going build.

[Elusivemax93]

Just got word from the body guy today 5/20/15 that the hood was not gonna work. too long length wise and too narrow width wise. too much trouble to stretch width wise and shrink length wise. good note though besides the vendors talking to me asking for pictures is i got work from Bulletproof automotive my Do luck bumper has arrived and already paid for shipping so tomorrow it leaves cali for my place to get delivered to the body guy and get that part on.

[James92se]

Elusive, wow dude glad to see you're still around after the Org. I had no idea you'd been active on here the past couple of years. You've really gone to town on your VE! I had kind of assumed you moved on from the 3rd gen after all this time.

I'm still rocking my TK3 VE. Been boosted about 2 years. Here she sits now:



Broke a ringland last year and block is currently at the machine shop getting bored .020 over for Z32 Wiseco pistons, crank polished and Eagle rods. Should be back up and pushing some even more serious HP later this summer.

You mention gears - do you mind sharing whatever info you've gleaned about that? I'm currently looking into beefed up internals too. Did you know that PAR made a helical cut gearset for the Maxima-specific RS5F50V back in 2008, complete with needle roller bearings, and made 15 sets, some of which are still available? It's a direct fit for the 4th gen and the 5 speed manual early 5th gen. As best I can tell, PAR actually only ever sold one set. Unfortunately the whole gearset won't fit the 3rd gen because the 3rd gen has a different reverse gear setup from the 4th and 5th gen - the 3rd gen two reverse idler gears while the 4th and 5th has only one. If we swapped in the 4th/5th gen PAR gearset we would have no reverse.

BUT I have been doing a lot of research the past week or two, and you know what else has the RS5F50V AND also has the dual reverse gear setup? The Pulsar GTiR. I strongly suspect the VE transmission is identical internally to the Pulsar GTiR including the reverse gear setup, and I'm actually currently in the process of trying to confirm this with PAR. If this is true, this means we can actually use totally off-the shelf Pulsar GTiR aftermarket beefed up gearsets from PAR (or PPG or anybody else for that matter).

Anyway, I'll have to keep up with your thread here. Glad to see you around man.

[Elusivemax93]

PPG is the set we can use. I looked the part numbers up and the gtir crosses over exactly. It's also a post on maxima.Org. I never gave up on my 3Rd gen. Almost completed the skyline front and rear end complete conversion. Waiting on my do luck gtr 34 front bumper which is in transit to my body guy.

[Elusivemax93]

http://maxima.org/forums/supercharged-t ... s-etc.html

this is what you need. i still look thru the org and i have alot of saved information. believe me im going into the engine and transmission soon after i get done with all this body work im currently invested in. planning to build a ve30dett.

[James92se]

PPG is the set we can use. I looked the part numbers up and the gtir crosses over exactly. It's also a post on maxima.Org. I never gave up on my 3Rd gen. Almost completed the skyline front and rear end complete conversion. Waiting on my do luck gtr 34 front bumper which is in transit to my body guy.

Yes I have seen all those threads. But actually back then it was thought the entire GTiR gearset would fit the 4th/5th gen but it won't in actuality because the GTiR has the different reverse setup from the 4th and 5th gen. This means if the 4th and 5th gen used the GTiR complete set they would have no reverse gear. This is why that member mooseq30 had PAR make a Maxima-specific set back in 2008. This is the set that I mentioned as far as I can tell he is the only one who ever bought one. And I confirmed with PAR last week that they still have Maxima sets available - but of course this isn't a direct swap for us 3rd gens because then we would have no reverse. But yes, the PPG 3rd and 4th gear WILL fit the 3rd, 4th, and 5th gen. But I"m wanting an entire 1-4 set which is where we may be in luck with the 3rd gen having the same reverse idler setup as the GTiR.

Where did you find the actual GTiR part numbers? I have actually been looking for those to directly compare myself. If you compare the 3rd, 4th, and early 5th gen, they all use identical internal part numbers except for the 3rd gen having the dual reverse idler gear. So I particularly want to compare the OEM numbers of the GTiR and 3rd gen particularly with the reverse idler gears. Do you have a link for the part numbers?

Also, I can't even find prices for the PPG stuff. Their PDF catalog they refer to on their website only lists Skylines, no other NIssans. I have already spoken with PAR and the GTiR full 1-4 syncromesh set plus shipping is about $3200 USD total shipped right now with the conversion rate. I am seriously wanting to do this soon but want total confirmation the GTiR full gearset is a direct swap. The GTiR gearset they sell has slightly different ratios from our OEM sets, and also the PAR is straight cut and I am concerned about the noise but they assure me they have managed to start manufacturing them to be fairly quiet now. But I'm dubious about that.

[James92se]

Wait a minute, I'm thinking you're the VE30DETT guy that has the current thread over there in which I and a couple other guys replied. I had no clue that was you, just thought it was some random guy coming on there pre-bragging about this huge project he's gonna do. But even at that I still hope you know I wasn't trying to discourage you like I said in the thread. I'm sure you remember yourself from back in the day how often people come on there saying they're gonna do XYZ and never do.

Had I known it was you I would have given you the benefit of the doubt but still, that much money in the block is still unnecessary/borderline impossible. :p

[Elusivemax93]

Lol took you long enough to realize that was me. Also it doesn't take much to spend that much into the block. Believe me just your basic rebuild can run you around 2,500.00 no changing pistons or rods. Not porting. No polish. No cryo doing and shot pinging. there's a lot I will be doing as I plan to set the bar. I will take the fastest and most powerful 3rd gen title.

[Elusivemax93]

I am still researching all I can. I am no where near the engine part just yet. But I will be once I get the last bits done on my body work.

[James92se]

Lol took you long enough to realize that was me. Also it doesn't take much to spend that much into the block. Believe me just your basic rebuild can run you around 2,500.00 no changing pistons or rods. Not porting. No polish. No cryo doing and shot pinging. there's a lot I will be doing as I plan to set the bar. I will take the fastest and most powerful 3rd gen title.

I'm talking JUST the block though. Of course you can spend double that including the heads. But you've been talking JUST "block" - almost impossible to spend $10k on just the block unless some shop really suckers you hardcore. Again, especially on the Org thread, we're speaking of just block regarding the $10k amount. Possibly a semantics issue but just to clear that up.

Although there is another VE owner I know of right now who is having his heads completely re-done by a Nissan specialist here in the DFW area. Full port/polish, JWT valve springs, everything. Even all of that is "only" costing him $2800 for both heads.

So $2500 in the bottom end, another $3000 in the top end at the top of the price range. Again I really don't see how or why somebody could or would spend $10k in one of these engines unless again you get totally suckered by a shop. But more power to you if you want to spend that much. You'd need a full billet crank, custom cams, and all sorts of other really high end stuff I'd think to end up spending $10k.

[Elusivemax93]

ok my bad i meant the motor before external parts geeze. block and head ok is that more clear lol

[Elusivemax93]

Update

So today my Do Luck nissan skyline gtr 34 bumper finally arrived in town and since my body guy went on vacation I took the liberty of going and picking up the bumper myself as I wanted to see my $1,400.00 spent on buying this item plus the 200.00 to have it shipped. I am super stoked to finally have this part which has been holding back some of the work on the conversion. Now with this item and what little left my body guy has to do i should be seeing the car hopefully before its painted so I can reinstall engine and transmission before going back to get sprayed with TK3. my favorite nissan maxima color. Sapphire blue pearl metallic if I remember right.

[Elusivemax93]

http://www.facebook.com/93Maxima
For those who want to follow my build I have a page on FB made just for the maxima. If your not always following on here or checking and are more on the social network i post updates there the moment I have them and I later post here as I get around too it.

[James92se]

Is your second third gen there a VE?

[Elusivemax93]

All 3 are ve's

[Elusivemax93]

And I have a spare VE30DE I'll be building after body and paint is finished

[Elusivemax93]

Do luck bumper being test fitted. Waiting on a nissan skyline GTR 34 front bumper facia support bar from Japan.


2 views of it overall from back to front.


Fender gap from using a skyline hood.


Fender without gap after adding some more metal cut off the skyline fenders to adjust the gap.

[James92se]

Are the wheel wells going to be made more circular? Or are they oblong on purpose?

[Elusivemax93]

The engine/transmission is not in and the work on the whole body is not completed. Don't worry James lol

[Elusivemax93]

Also james there are front and rear fender flares done to the car. so it is gonna look odd because the flare arches. for more clear fitment of the rim and tires on the front and back. since im running 245/40/r18

[James92se]

Yes I'm talking about the curvature of the flares though, the actual wheel cutout section. They're not circular. I know it's not finished but that seems like something your body guy would spend time/get correct right off the bat?

[Elusivemax93]

It's because of the matting of skyline and maxima fender believe me it was far worse before the flares added on.

[Elusivemax93]

the other day while I got off in time before the lock smith closed for the day swung by and took the nissan skyline trunk lock to just have a key made to work with the skyline trunk lock. Since my body guy accidently lost my maxima one. It was funny guy asks what car is it for. I tell him a 1999 nissan skyline gtt 4 door. he begins to look and shortly after just walks away and tells me it will be 15-20 minutes. Bought 20 minutes later comes out a working lock with key lol. He said he tried a second time to look up the car and i laughed and told him its not a usdm car. its from japan.

[Elusivemax93]

james the arces are flared to the skyline rim. so it looks all wrong right now plus there is extra material on the whole body as the sanding will be done all at the same time for a smooth clean line. My body guy is like that to do it all at the end.

[Elusivemax93]

Sorry i haven't been posting lately been so busy with work and other things going on while waiting for the body guy to get me more images and keep me in the loop with whats going on. It's getting close to coming home so the engine and transmission can go back in and other things not needed to be done by him can get done while i save the money needed for paint. So paint will be going on during the winter down time.

[Elusivemax93]

Yesterday my body guy sent me the last pictures of the body work. So today I will be picking up the car. now only thing he is still working on is the power folding mirrors but he doesnt require the car for that.