My 1st time. ...lol

[danshaz82]

nice. 100 isnt bad at all.
but im doing the same thing, comparing spl and psm. still havnt decided haha.

[kennp]

personally, I looked at the lock outs on both of each product.
psm uses lock nuts. my tension rods are partly striped becuase one wiggled lose.

spl has freaking clamping locks.
that pretty much sold me.

but i will be open to both no matter what.

[danshaz82]

thats what got me too. but the new pro series from psm has the locking nuts now too


i feel like a salesman

[asoomal]

I...I..came...

[kennp]

oooohhhh.
I did not know this.
Hmm. Maby changed my mind.
are they still made from aluminum?

[danshaz82]

nope, made from steel.
heres a link with some info.
http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/page.php?14
theres alot more info in the forum there

[Hoffman5982]

Babbob, we don like yer kind round here. Faluntin yer moni n sich. Take yer fansy wansy "kwal-ihh-tee" parts and jump in frunt of uh john deer traktor

[MellowZ32]

that is all.
Thank you & goodnight.

[Razi]

Brilliant.

[s13sickboi]

Babbob, we don like yer kind round here. Faluntin yer moni n sich. Take yer fansy wansy "kwal-ihh-tee" parts and jump in frunt of uh john deer traktor

http://i.imgur.com/ne2s7.png
Thank you & goodnight.

OH jesus christ...
Leave the poor kids alone will ya?

[Hoffman5982]

that is all.
Thank you & goodnight.

I think what babbob is referring to is the cheapest of the cheap. Mercury has condoned and tried his hardest to back up literally the cheapest stuff you can find on ebay. I'm talking $200 "coilovers" that he and anyone else with half a brain would never put on a car that is driven further than the end of the driveway. Yes, Varrostoens are replica wheels, but I think we can all agree that they are more than capable of handling daily driving and even some track use.

[danshaz82]

I think what babbob is referring to is the cheapest of the cheap. Mercury has condoned and tried his hardest to back up literally the cheapest stuff you can find on ebay. I'm talking $200 "coilovers" that he and anyone else with half a brain would never put on a car that is driven further than the end of the driveway. Yes, Varrostoens are replica wheels, but I think we can all agree that they are more than capable of handling daily driving and even some track use.

while the picture is pretty funny, i do agree.

[PANDAemic]

Once you get everything figured out I hope you can start a build thread for your engine, I want to see how it turns out.

Yes, Varrostoens are replica wheels, but I think we can all agree that they are more than capable of handling daily driving and even some track use.

Only thing I can say to this is that why would you buy real wheels for track use? True they are meant for it but in the long run you spend a fair amount of money on wheels but our run the risk of getting them ruined. As long as they can hold up, I'd much rather use replica's on the track/DD and use the real deal for car meets and shows.

Personal Opinion... Just saying.

[krash]

Look like a pretty sweet list man! When I have the time/money to build my KA I'm going to use CP pistons with eagle rods as well. Also, there are some good lulz in this thread. You guys and your swashbuckling....

Does anyone have anymore info on rings? No ones really talked about it yet. PLUS, I need to buy some as well.

why would you buy real wheels for track use? True they are meant for it but in the long run you spend a fair amount of money on wheels but our run the risk of getting them ruined. As long as they can hold up, I'd much rather use replica's on the track/DD and use the real deal for car meets and shows.

Personal Opinion... Just saying.

Generally, wheels go through more stress on the track, a lot more. Is it highly likely that your xxr or rota is going to explode on the track, no. Can it happen, yes. Are forged wheels stronger and less likely to break while racing, yes.

So spending 2000 on real wheels for track use doesn't seem as bad when you look at what happens IF a wheel fails while speeding around a turn etc. Also, "real" wheels tend to be lighter, which is good also. My 17x8.25 XXR wheels weight about 20lbs each while 17x9.5 Enkei RPF1s weigh about 18lbs each.

[badbob2121]

I think what babbob is referring to is the cheapest of the cheap. Mercury has condoned and tried his hardest to back up literally the cheapest stuff you can find on ebay. I'm talking $200 "coilovers" that he and anyone else with half a brain would never put on a car that is driven further than the end of the driveway. Yes, Varrostoens are replica wheels, but I think we can all agree that they are more than capable of handling daily driving and even some track use.

Hoffman you are correct. This really blew out of proportion..

[kennp]

Well this got funny quick.
We pretty much can all agree that quality is the key.
PEOPLE NEED TO QUIT ACCEPTING THAT SKIMPING ON PARTS IS OK.
Look. With a name comes standards. I work at a special bar quailty steel mill.
We make anything from carbon steel to chromoly steel. Each have their on specs.
if you buy a knock off brand how do you know that the purches product is free of defects.
there is alot you eye dont see. If a single bar is not up to standard it gets trashed.
There are alot of steel supliers that dont have great quality. Many defects and such.
this is where your knock offs come from. So if knock offs where ok, why would you not see a ton of knock off crap in the nhra or nascar or fd or d.
So knock offs are out of the question. Buy right. Know what your buying.
/endrant.

Sorry if was typed funny im at work.

[danshaz82]

Look like a pretty sweet list man! When I have the time/money to build my KA I'm going to use CP pistons with eagle rods as well. Also, there are some good lulz in this thread. You guys and your swashbuckling....

Does anyone have anymore info on rings? No ones really talked about it yet. PLUS, I need to buy some as well.

not to sure on rings, but im going the same way, CP pistons and eagle rods.
if theres a local shop by you, im sure they could recommend good rings for the type of piston. thats what they did at touge factory.
speaking of which, they have CP pistons on the real cheap there.
http://shop.tougefactory.com/categories ... red&page=3
basically half off.
are JE rings any good?

[240sxAli4Life]

Uhh...using OEM parts isn't for the rich..it's the bare minimum.

Anyways, I highly suggest (if your budget allows) you to get the WPC treatment done to the piston skirts, rings and your bearings.

What went wrong with your previous rebuild?

EDIT: This should be on the top of your list if your rebuilding the KA.

A larger capacity oil pan, windage tray/crank scraper and an ATI damper. I know it isn't cheap, but our KA's really need these, especially the damper to prolong engine life.

PEOPLE... I wasnt reffering to OEM parts!!! GOD DAMN!

[240sxAli4Life]

>mfw those pistons and rods are quality products that happen to be on eBay.
>mfw the only high quality gasket you need is a head gasket.

>mfw youre trying to green text a forum thread. this isnt 4chan...

OMG Babbob.... f*** it, i really dont feel like getting into it with you... jus do me a favor...dont reply to comments i post... if i post something you dont like Mr. RICH GUY... keep to yourself... PLEASE...

you know what, im so sick of reading your s***. youre what, 16 years old? go ahead and buy your cheap s*** on ebay. you are the reason the 240 has become the new civic. youre the reason the aftermarket industry is hurting because youre too cheap and impatient to buy quality parts. people like you make me want to sell my car.

OP, dont listen to these 2 people. they like to buy the bottom of the barrel parts which wont last longer than a set of tires.
you seem to already have a nice list of parts that are trusted and quality.
im about to be doing the same exact thing, so im in the same boat good luck!

Dude your outta your f*** mind! No im not 16 a** hole... The only thing i was referring him to ebay was the full engine gasket set you dumbass troll! If he doesnt wanna use the headgasket and get a nice aftermarket one with arp studs COOL... i would most probobly do the same if i was building a KA... also if you happen to look at the other thing i sent him was some good high performace forged pistons, and some eagle rods...WTF ABOUT THAT IS EBAY???? OH AND BTW... You dont know jack s*** about my car, nor the mods i have done to it... so why dont you just stfu and crawl back in your cave... And to insult me and tell me im the reason the 240 has become the new civic?? HOW has the 240 become the new civic? I dont see many 240s in my town! I see hella civics though!

[danshaz82]

Dude your outta your f**king mind! No im not 16 a** hole... The only thing i was referring him to ebay was the full engine gasket set you dumbass troll! If he doesnt wanna use the headgasket and get a nice aftermarket one with arp studs COOL... i would most probobly do the same if i was building a KA... also if you happen to look at the other thing i sent him was some good high performace forged pistons, and some eagle rods...WTF ABOUT THAT IS EBAY???? OH AND BTW... You dont know jack s*** about my car, nor the mods i have done to it... so why dont you just stfu and crawl back in your cave... And to insult me and tell me im the reason the 240 has become the new civic?? HOW has the 240 become the new civic? I dont see many 240s in my town! I see hella civics though!

17, my mistake.
OP, i apologize for s*** up your thread. if a mod could clean this up a bit, that would be great.
and kid, if you want to get into it, PM me.

[kennp]

Eh. I dont care.
Mods don't worry about cleaning this up.
Its funny as hell watching people get pissy.

I am pretty sure for what I took from your post, I took oem gaskets and timing.
Thats all man. So chill. hahahahahah.

Btw where the hell can i get a windage tray

[Razi]

Eh. I dont care.
Mods don't worry about cleaning this up.
Its funny as hell watching people get pissy.

I am pretty sure for what I took from your post, I took oem gaskets and timing.
Thats all man. So chill. hahahahahah.

Btw where the hell can i get a windage tray

Okay, I'll leave it alone.

As for the windage tray.
Xcessive makes one.
http://www.xcessivemanufacturing.com/ON ... =4&pid=174

Also, welcome to Nico!

[kennp]

Sometimes you just need some comedic relief.


Is anyone here running the windage tray?
If so, how is the fit and finish?

Ok, so the motor and transmission..lol... are out.

Only thing I cant get is the mf'n flywheel bolts.
i tried a breaker bar on crank pulley to no end.
I think Zeus himself, put this bolts in.
btw no air tools here so impact out of question.

And thanks man.
I thought it would good to quit trolling around and actually join.

[krash]

17, my mistake.

ITS A WHOLE YEAR, GAWD.

I think Zeus himself, put this bolts in.
btw no air tools here so impact out of question.

is the the A/T flex plate/flywheel thing?

[Razi]

I don't know of anyone that is running the windage tray, so I'm not sure how well it fits, but Xcessive is a good company, as far as I know.

When I took my flywheel bolts out, I put a huge screwdriver between the teeth of the flywheel and the floor, to keep it from spinning.
Then I put a breaker bar on the bolts, and used a jack to lift and apply force on the end of the bar. Put on goggles just in case. :P

I do that bar + jack trick on a lot of stubborn nuts and bolts and it works quite well.

[kennp]

Thats how i did mine. Amazing what a hammer can fix. The claw of the hammer fits in a tooth, then the anvil of the hammer goes agains the egr tube. I then preloaded the tension on the hammer. Then whammmy. done.

But the only thing I have even heard about xcessive, was that the fit on the intake was a tiny bit off.


On a lighter note, What bolts did you guys use for the engine stand.
I could use the transmission bolts but they dont even go in a half inch.
if that works Ill just use it but I don't want to break anything.

[krash]

Sounds hella dangerous, but I used transmission bolts on it for my engine stand, and its been sitting on there for like a year now.

[kennp]

did you use the same transmission bolts from the transmission?
I just dont see it working.
I dont want to drop my only motor.


Has anyone one heard of k1?
Their rods any good?

[Razi]

I think the ones on my engine stand just came with the stand. Not really sure, I bought the engine + stand off Craigslist haha.

Aren't some transmission bolts longer than the others?

Never heard of K1.
I think most people go with Eagle, Pauter, Brian Crower, and maybe some others that I might be forgetting.

[kennp]

I got my from Harbor Freight. Super nice stand.
Its already got 1 1/2 inch spaches built into the mounts.
So there lies the problem. Don't know what size to get.
Guess I will get some m10x1.5.100 or 90's.

Yea thats what I figured.
One of my dsm buddies said they make rods for ka's
From what I read on the site and stuff looks like legit stuff.


edit. After reading up a little more, I am pretty sure k1 is made by ams.