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In a C18det without strokerkit or racefuel?

And worlds fastest S13 streetlegal 1/4mile?


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most big power CAs in the past did not use the stroker kit. That big swing limits RPM and the lil guy has to scream to eat enough air to make big numbers. On the street light to light it's a benefit but if you want maximum power and top end it's a step backwards IMO. I was even thinking about destroking the CA.

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cars coming along well I take it

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No hp numbers?Or dynopaper?

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at this point info vids and pics of CA18s is like bigfoot sightings unfortunately. The 600s is the most anybody was claiming, Munson and Norris. I saw a passing reference to a 700hp 1.9 Silvia with a T88 but only once. That leads me to believe it was a typo or it blew up; a 700hp CA18 would have been very article worthy.

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Giallo spyder met wrote:No hp numbers?Or dynopaper?
Dude, just handle your own business and stop chasing ghosts. Push your own CA to the outer limits and then see where you stand against those that have come before you and those (like myself) that are presently trying to push this engine to its limits. Be your own target and set your sights accordingly.

Dee

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boost_boy wrote:Dude, just handle your own business and stop chasing ghosts. Push your own CA to the outer limits and then see where you stand against those that have come before you and those (like myself) that are presently trying to push this engine to its limits. Be your own target and set your sights accordingly.

Dee
well put Dee...

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boost boy and chosen one why you guys knocking this man so much.first he asks about max block pressure/power and chosen thinks he doesn't know that different turbos @ different psi flow different amounts of air.

this stuff happens to much you guys are making assumptions off his question and responding to that, not the actual question at hand. As inspirational as your posts are I'd stick with the ole "if you don't have anything informative to say don't say it at all"

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^agreed^

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I have a video of a yellow Silvia S13 with a CA18DET laying down like 700+ WHP I'd host it if I knew how lol.

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Upload it to youtube!! I would love to see that!!!

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I would think any response to such a broad/vague question would be appreciated.I feel his curiosity, but can understand exactly where boost_boy is coming from."Build it yourself and find out" is the only true answer to be honest.So much goes on behind the scenes in the real world vs the internet.Dyno 'numbers' and quick ETs may look impressive at face value, while telling you nothing.... like, did it blow up 2 minutes later... or was the car a tin-can... was water/alky inj used... nitros.... etc...

Mobne runs oe nissan crank and bearings. Simlar? turbo ~2bar, with 260/8.8 tomei cams. 497hp on hi-grade pump gas ?I'd start there for a hi-strung target and try to improve on it.

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jt15833 wrote:boost boy and chosen one why you guys knocking this man so much.first he asks about max block pressure/power and chosen thinks he doesn't know that different turbos @ different psi flow different amounts of air.

this stuff happens to much you guys are making assumptions off his question and responding to that, not the actual question at hand. As inspirational as your posts are I'd stick with the ole "if you don't have anything informative to say don't say it at all"
Some of you knuckle heads don't read well. Obviously the information on the internet is minimal, so again, it's time to stop chasing ghosts and/or hearsay or rare internet sightings and go pave your own way. Oh yeah jt15833 and ks13, I think I've earned the right to be able to pass on such a comment to someone that has great aspirations from the CA18DET. I've built better than 30 CA18s and have done some damage to a few of them, but never have I seen one trash it's block with my naked eyes. I've pumped over 30psi of efficient boost from a 60-1 through an engine I'd built on pump gas with 3 people in a fully loaded S13; only to tear down the engine out of curiosity and see little to no wear on bearings, rings and pistons. Now, something could go wrong and send a rod outside of a freshly built CA18 with saaaay: solid lifters, expensive rods and pistons, etc, etc, etc. Bottom line is anything can happen at anytime or he could very well achieve his objective, but we just don't know. After 11 years of dealing with the CA, I happily stand behind my post. Not knocking the man, his ability nor his engine, but to be chasing pipe dreams is an understatement. One should do themselves a favor and make their own history with this motor and not worry about who has the biggest crank if you understand what I'm saying.

And by no means am I one to distract anyone, but in order to run with the best or to try and get into the league with the best, one most focus on himself, his personal contributions and dedications to his cause (first and foremost).

Dee

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^spoken like a true sage...^

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Any update?!

Me and a person in Sweden have a competion who can get most power out a Ca18det without racefuel or noz.

I made 514Whp and Mobne made 577Whp just 2 weeks agoboth running E85.

My goal is 600+Whp on regular E85 and no gas just alot of boost.

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Giallo spyder met wrote:Any update?

Me and a person in Sweden have a competion who can get most power out a Ca18det without racefuel or noz.

I made 514Whp and Mobne made 577Whp just 2 weeks agoboth running E85.

My goal is 600+Whp on regular E85 and no gas just alot of boost.
Beautiful work guys ! Keep paving your own way and you'll eventually put a paw print in CA history.

Dee

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boost_boy wrote:Be your own target and set your sights accordingly.
so you're telling him to shoot himself?

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mazikowski wrote:
so you're telling him to shoot himself?
Aim center mass and make it count . One shot, One kill (Marine Corps Motto)!

Dee

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freaking awesome numbers

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boost_boy wrote: Aim center mass and make it count . One shot, One kill (Marin Corps Motto)!

Dee
The only thing I miss, shooting weapons.

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Shooting weapons is fun as hell.

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boost_boy, what would you say is CA18DET power limit, without getting too expensive (dumping tens of thousands)? I mean when you can just slap on big turbo, exhaust, intake, port head, cams, E85, two pumps, maybe NOS, and go tuning? Not having to reinvent oiling/cooling/combustion chamber shapes and so on?And a second Q, what is the most power with stock ECU, and is there anything that prevents from achieving CA power limit with stock ECU? Seems like spark signal is spark signal and injector signal is injector signal, or am I wrong?

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Giallo spyder met wrote:I made 514Whp and Mobne made 577Whp just 2 weeks agoboth running E85.

My goal is 600+Whp on regular E85 and no gas just alot of boost.
Can you reveal your 600whp specs? and 514whp graph too?

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Vetal wrote:boost_boy, what would you say is CA18DET power limit, without getting too expensive (dumping tens of thousands)? I mean when you can just slap on big turbo, exhaust, intake, port head, cams, E85, two pumps, maybe NOS, and go tuning? Not having to reinvent oiling/cooling/combustion chamber shapes and so on?And a second Q, what is the most power with stock ECU, and is there anything that prevents from achieving CA power limit with stock ECU? Seems like spark signal is spark signal and injector signal is injector signal, or am I wrong?
Take a bone stock CA that's healthy, some 1000cc injectors, a good standalone or a decent engine management tuning device, a nice sized turbo (ie 60-1, GT35R, GT3037, etc) and force some air into the engine. The key here is tuning ladies and gents. You can't tune and all those additions are worthless. But to answer the question vetal, you can get around 500whp with that stuff I mentioned, granted you have a healthy stock CA.

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Damn, I thought it would be at least more than Mobne has achieved Although he might be keeping it secret, but I don't know of any superspecial tricks with his engine...

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Where the hell is BigTone? His CA rapes apes. zerothread?id=344977

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custom one off crank in tones car da-daaaang.

spec not disclosed but im sure it is of the full counter variety.

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ks13 wrote:custom one off crank in tones car da-daaaang.

spec not disclosed but im sure it is of the full counter variety.
If you're willing to spend the money, you can have anything made to suit your needs. Titanium rods are not a problem at $750 bucks each just to give you some idea. Anything you want is possible, if you have a brand new stock engine and the right additives,who knows how much power you can get. My build and plans are suited for over 700whp and over $7000 in motor alone is at risk here, but oh well.

Don't try to out-do Mobne because you don't know all the details about his trek with the CA, go for self. Simply put, do your own thing. The more air and fuel you force, the more power you build. He's making that kind of power well over 30psi of boost and I am glad to see someone push the envelope in that fashion. As much as I would love and the fact that I can, I don't have the time to even take my cars to a dyno, but eventually I will.

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Well yeah, but regardless it is a CA18 (and he claims 1809cc, so...) and it makes a crap load of power.

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Dee, some say the opposite - find a working setup similar to what you want, and copy it Of course it's not so honorable as to develop your own way, try 5 turbos, 4 sets of cams, 3 ignition systems and so on. But I'm already devoting too much time to my car So why not to copy I'd be extremely happy with 550whp and just happy with 450whp as of now. Old 4WD Audis and DSMs totally dominate here, especially hard to compete because most tracks are 1/8 and have just old asphalt, no glue, no preparation (I think you can see it from my sig). So got to have some power BTW, is there any automatic box that can be fitted to CA relatively easily/cheaply?


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