making the z sound like an f1

[nd_aussie]

shoot this is prob a dumb question and near impossible but i want my car to sound like an f1. anyone have any suggestions?exhaust wise

[NolimitZ32]

put an F1 engine in it, its gonna be impossible because its the engine that makes the sound, not the exhaust so essentially the only thing you can do short of putting a 4L V12 in your car is to build a perfectly spec-ed 12k rpm VG30. Its the high revs and tiny cylinders that give F1 engines their sound, so the more small cylinders you have and the higher you can rev it the more it will sound like an F1 car.

[Ace2cool]

No.

Why are all your threads all about aesthetics? Do you not care about performance? Even most of your aesthetic modifications are.... meh. Do you even have a plan for your Z?

[Z31toZ32]

remove the rev limiter and shift at 12k rpms, that should do it.

[franklin93zx]

Yeah adding an exhaust doesn't not make your compression ratio go up to 12.5:1, which is what i think the compression ratio for the f1 motor......

[NolimitZ32]

correct, 11:1 and up, but yeah like i and z2z said, if you can rev to 12k then you can achieve that sound

[car nut]

Don't F1 cars rev to like 18k now?

[evildky]

the lobe seperation and the natural harmonic of the v6 will not sound like an F1 biut to get it closer you need, cone air filter, custom tuned "timed" headers, single straight pipe exhaust and a supertrap, to make it sound more like an F1 swap out the VG for an L6

[Chattzx]

remove the rev limiter and shift at 12k rpms, that should do it.

lol lets see how long that engine lasts

[Chattzx]

Don't F1 cars rev to like 18k now?

yes they are electronically limited to 18k since the teams are being reduced on how many engines they can use a season nowadays

[Weber3211]

put a hayabusa motor in it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

[simmode1]

In fact... I'm gonna sig that post...

[Oh Em Zee]

there's a reason why the Z's rev limiter is around 7k. Sure, take the rev limiter off and hit 18k rpm to make your engine sound like an F1, but dont blame me when your piston went through your hood.

[simmode1]

You know... I got to thinking and started to entertain this cockamaney idea... Has anyone ever put ITB's on an N/A Z?

Yes, it's an all together pointless idea other than increasing engine response and sounding like a real race car... But a pointless idea for a pointless thread.

[FusionR300zx]

there's a z33 NA that sounds like a F1 car.

[nd_aussie]

there's a z33 NA that sounds like a F1 car.

where?

[zxdetail]

If you really want your car to sound like an F1 engine then fork out the money for a new engine or go cheap and by a exhaust replicator and speakers.

[Z-owned]

You know... I got to thinking and started to entertain this cockamaney idea... Has anyone ever put ITB's on an N/A Z?

Yes, it's an all together pointless idea other than increasing engine response and sounding like a real race car... But a pointless idea for a pointless thread.

There is a guy on tt.net that was working on one, he actually did it once on hit tt I believe and then lost the car due to a garage fire or something like that, now his goal is to build a beast n/a. The escort z32 n/a track car uses itb's as well.

[simmode1]

shoot this is prob a dumb question and near impossible but i want my car to sound like an f1. anyone have any suggestions?

Put a b18 in it...

j/k!

If a KA with ITB's and a open headers sounds like this while revving, imagine a VG30DE...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfQ4eA626kM

[Ace2cool]

There was a thread a while back that REDWINTER asked about ITB's in. No clue which one. But there have been a few N/A's with ITB's that someone posted pictures of. Ish looked sick.

[car nut]

There was a thread a while back that REDWINTER asked about ITB's in. No clue which one. But there have been a few N/A's with ITB's that someone posted pictures of. Ish looked sick.

I considered ITB's but quit well I was ahead. They would be sweet though.

[simmode1]

I searched and searched and searched but have come up empty. Found a few ppl talking about it, but no one actually doing it. Which is great, I suppose. I've always heard that the VG30DE(TT) intake manifold was very efficient, like the VH45's, and ITB's would see very minimal gains at a ginormous price tag.

[car nut]

I searched and searched and searched but have come up empty. Found a few ppl talking about it, but no one actually doing it. Which is great, I suppose. I've always heard that the VG30DE(TT) intake manifold was very efficient, like the VH45's, and ITB's would see very minimal gains at a ginormous price tag.

Exactly. A lot of hours were spent designing it. You wouldn't be able to have the same length on the intake runners without poking through the hood I think. Or it would be very close. I'd rather put bike throttles on my VH anyways.

[simmode1]

^^^ Thats all I kept running into on my search... ITBs on VH45's...

[car nut]

If you find anything worth knowing, let me know.

[NolimitZ32]

why not make ITBs? from the design standpoint its not that hard and I could see it getting done with a welder and some hand tools. You would have to find cars with small TBs but it can be done and made functional. I wish I didn't have to have a job, all of you would be buying so much crap from me, I have tons of ideas and they all have technical thought processes behind them, i'm sure that half the s*** i think of I could make and have it be functional.

[simmode1]

Haven't seen anything worthwhile in regards to the VH really. At least nothing that doesn't involve reinventing the wheel. After looking at some ITB/VH45 threads, I thought that might be cool to do that and then put it on some nitrous to see a big bump in both response and power.... But, to see 400hp on the VH in a Z32 without boost is gonna be a major ordeal, while the VG30DETT does 400hp in it's sleep.

It's a cool idea, but other than a little weight savings, I can't really find the merit in or justify the work requires for a VH45/Z32 swap versus a TT motor anymore...

LSx is a different story however. But all this is very offtopic...

[simmode1]

Looking at a base dyno for a VG30DE, it looks really efficient.

I'd expect ITB's to only give you about 20hp/tq, but the importance would of course be on the new powerband they'd create for you. More torque at a lower RPM... I'm just not sure it's really worth it. I guess maybe if you're gonna go all the way with new headers, straightpipe exhaust, bigger cams, titanium valve springs, lighter pulleys and a good tune.... You might see 255whp but at what cost?

Maybe throw a 75 shot of nitrous in there for fun, I guess...

[car nut]

But, to see 400hp on the VH in a Z32 without boost is gonna be a major ordeal

I dunno about that. I think with port/polish, exhaust, cams and a tune you could see close to 400 at the crank. Add in 11.5:1 pistons and ITB's and you could probably see 450+ at the crank. Boost is definitely the way to go on a VH though. With injectors and a good tune they can handle 11lbs.

[FusionR300zx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

close and cool, but not what i was looking for.. the exhaust i was looking for was 10x louder.