LSD - Nismo or KAAZ?

Post by **ForsakenTH** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:28 pm

if the NISMO one you are thinking about is the one at phase2, they have a prity good write up about it. say its not as good as the kaaz for drift and auto-x...i dont remember if phase2 is a sponsor...if not sorry

Post by **Project S13** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:05 pm

Yea they are, I have to cancel hicas before I can use either LSD though...bleh. hassle hassle. Or rather a few hundred I can't spend on the LSD now, which means I have to wait longer to get it. >.< Oh well, more time to think and make sure I get the best value or some crap like that lol. I'm too tired to be posting. -_-

Post by **eddiec** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:38 am

i dont think its necessary to disable hicas to run a diff. in fact hicas cars come with a vlsd stock.

nevermind if you just want to.

Post by **Project S13** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:36 pm

Kaaz usa themselves said I shouldn't because hicas and the 2 way clucth lsd wouldn't get along, and yes my car has an oem vlsd. If kaaz suggests it I'll take thier word for it. ^_^

Post by **hamsterball** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:54 pm

Something a professional drifter friend of mine (he doesn't post on here) told me was..

How many japanese company sponsored drivers have KAAZ 2-way LSD's on their Silvia/180SX's??

The only one that has it is the driver sponsored by KAAZ. all the rest have either Tomei, ATS Deftforce, Nismo, or some other company.

He tells me that the KAAZ transitions into lock-up too abruptly and harshely, and is kind of a ***** to control because of this transition.

That's all I have heard, but don't know much. You might want to look into this and ask people who actually have the differential set up with the same type of driving as you.

Post by **Project S13** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:13 pm

Hey that's a really great tip, but I'm afraid I don't know anyone who has an fr 2 wya lsd at all...I don't believe so anyway. I'm not in an area with a great scene....but I appreciate the info. if you hear anything else from him in the drifting lsd inside info I'd be glad to hear it.

Post by **drftnassmofo** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 5:31 pm

where the hell/how the hell can i find a cheap kaaz 2 way..on driftfactory.com they're 895$ plus shipping which is ??i dont even know how much prolly like 50 bucks...i cant seem to find any on the parts/equipment for sale ever and i have money now!!!need kaaz..who is ATS ive never heard of their two-ways

Post by **Project S13** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:16 pm

?.?

Good luck on finding one less than 850 or so, you'd have to have a hook up...

Post by **Rival SE-R** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:33 pm

Project S13- what are you doing with the Vlsd? is it smoked?

i know someone with a 350hp 91 SE-R, i installed his nismo 1.5 LSD and he loves it and hasnt had a problem with it... installation was easy and that required splitting the trans case

-pete

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:35 pm

drftnassmofo wrote:where the hell/how the hell can i find a cheap kaaz 2 way..on driftfactory.com they're 895$ plus shipping which is ??i dont even know how much prolly like 50 bucks...i cant seem to find any on the parts/equipment for sale ever and i have money now!!!need kaaz..who is ATS ive never heard of their two-ways

That actually an excellent price for a Kaaz!I think Driftfactory may be able to get you the Nismo a tad cheaper but not by much I am sure.

Fred..

Post by **916drifter** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:05 pm

drftnassmofo wrote:where the hell/how the hell can i find a cheap kaaz 2 way..on driftfactory.com they're 895$ plus shipping which is ??i dont even know how much prolly like 50 bucks...i cant seem to find any on the parts/equipment for sale ever and i have money now!!!need kaaz..who is ATS ive never heard of their two-ways

ATS pwnz KAAZ

Post by **DriftFactory** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:09 pm

drftnassmofo wrote:where the hell/how the hell can i find a cheap kaaz 2 way..on driftfactory.com they're 895$ plus shipping which is ??i dont even know how much prolly like 50 bucks...i cant seem to find any on the parts/equipment for sale ever and i have money now!!!need kaaz..who is ATS ive never heard of their two-ways

Actually, all of our KAAZ LSDs have FREE SHIPPING and a FREE can of KAAZ gear oil.

Post by **llamabeta** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:06 pm

Hopefully not too off topic. What is the process of converting say a 2-way to a 1.5 way. What are the changes that you have to do to the diff. I've seen diagrams on Cusco's site but still doesnt tell me what exactly they are adjusting.

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:37 pm

llamabeta wrote:Hopefully not too off topic. What is the process of converting say a 2-way to a 1.5 way. What are the changes that you have to do to the diff. I've seen diagrams on Cusco's site but still doesnt tell me what exactly they are adjusting.

Maybe I should sfae this one for a more competent person, but for now I am gonna answer anyway...

During installation the way it gets installed, either as a 2 way or 1.5 way, depending on leaving out a dic or something..unce

pretty much your option for most of the cluth type 2 ways you buy.

I hear good things about the kaaz, definetly a step up from the Nismo apparently .

Back when I put a Nismo (part# on box as a 2 way, installed as a 1.5 way) in my S13, I would have liked to go with a Kaaz, but it was more expenive by a margin.

BUT Driftfactory's price for the Kaaz is almost EXACTLY the same I paid for a Nismo so I KNOW its a good price!

Fred..

PS: Both phase2 and Driftfacory are sponsors, I prefer the kaaz from Drift in this case due to its price roughly same as the Nismo's

Post by **llamabeta** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:55 pm

Thanks for the reply Fred.

Hmm removing a disc. Yeah, I'm in the dark in regards to this. It's always spoken of but no one ever explains it. Probably so simple they dont think about it.

Big fan of Phase2, got my SR from them.

Any other replies are welcome.

Thanks.

Post by **brndck** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:40 pm

i have a kaaz 2way and it's fuxkin amazing, massive improvement from open diff, but i drove my friends s13 and he has the nismo sss 2way, and i couldn't notice any difference between the two as far as when it locks.

Post by **GripR** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:37 pm

hamsterball wrote:Something a professional drifter friend of mine (he doesn't post on here) told me was..

How many japanese company sponsored drivers have KAAZ 2-way LSD's on their Silvia/180SX's??

The only one that has it is the driver sponsored by KAAZ. all the rest have either Tomei, ATS Deftforce, Nismo, or some other company.

He tells me that the KAAZ transitions into lock-up too abruptly and harshely, and is kind of a ***** to control because of this transition.

That's all I have heard, but don't know much. You might want to look into this and ask people who actually have the differential set up with the same type of driving as you.

you are actually wrong my friend, the kaaz driver isn't the only one that uses the kaaz lsd. i counted more than 10 of the d1 drivers use the kaaz lsd. how do i know this? i was helping out kaaz at the d1 event in irwandale and the owner told me which cars were sponsored by him.

Post by **Joe** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:47 am

hamsterball wrote:Something a professional drifter friend of mine (he doesn't post on here) told me was..

How many japanese company sponsored drivers have KAAZ 2-way LSD's on their Silvia/180SX's??

The only one that has it is the driver sponsored by KAAZ. all the rest have either Tomei, ATS Deftforce, Nismo, or some other company.

He tells me that the KAAZ transitions into lock-up too abruptly and harshely, and is kind of a ***** to control because of this transition.

That's all I have heard, but don't know much. You might want to look into this and ask people who actually have the differential set up with the same type of driving as you.

your "friend" is wrong, there are several d1 drivers who use kaaz diff's.

and as for a kaaz locking up too abruptly, no. the ATS is a TON harsher than a kaaz, well just say a kaaz 2 way is daily drivable, an ATS is not in comparison.

anyway, im running a kaaz 1.5 and i love it, i still grip with the car and its a perfect sacrifice between decel lockup and gripping ability that i can do both grip and drift. the nismo units arent as harsh as a kaaz but since this isnt a daily driver id go with a kaaz. whatever you get make sure you follow the breakin instructions VERY CLOSLEY.

Post by **Project S13** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:55 am

Yeah it's not worth it to mess up such a big investment by being an idiot and trying to break it in by doing donuts or something. Yay for more feedback about kaaz units

I have been looking into the ATS Deftforce since then but all I have to go on for it are the sites and of course they try to outword one another...so it's hard to get a feel for what the unit actually feels like. If it makes the car to where I can't drive it in the rain to get to events then I might not want something that mean lol. (I drive relaxed within 5 of the speed limit, my friends call me te slowest drift enthusiast they've ever met lol)

Post by **sixxdeuce** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:18 am

I picked up a Nismo 2-way(not the GT pro) for real cheap and have been driving a couple days on it, so far I dont like it. It feels way too mild, hardly makes any noise. When you clutch kick, it steps out for sure, but doesnt feel as solid as the tomei. Overall it just doesnt feel like it locks as fast or as hard as other diffs I have driven on. I think im gonna sell it and get a Tomei, the GT pro or the deft force.

Post by **Project S13** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:37 pm

I see, well thanks for the info.

I'm kind of suprised NICO doesn't have an FAQ/sticky or something about feedback and reviews of 1.5 and 2 way LSD's from members using them. That would be a great resource for everyone, like which lsd, type of driving they use it for, and then thier comments on noise, daily drivability, and feedback on performance driving with it--of whatever types they do.

Thanks for adding to the info

Post by **GripR** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:40 pm

well i got me a...

it took me forever to get that cover cleaned...

Post by **GripR** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:44 pm

oh yeah going from open diff to 100% lock up is crazy. i'm barely throttling it through a turn and i can feel the car just sliding a little.

Post by **Project S13** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:26 am

That's locked under accel and decel so you could probably get it to slide if you were breaking slightly as well. You'll have to hit me up with some feedback about that, I'm going ahead and cancelling hicas/getting a 2way this summer Congrats...gawd I want to test drive one =p

Post by **SlIp'n'sLiDe** » Mon May 02, 2005 9:04 am

i am getting a diff from a j30, anyone have any feedback on that??

Post by **Project S13** » Mon May 02, 2005 9:25 am

Is that just a regular viscous lsd? I'm not familiar with it's info. If so, my car has the factory vlsd and I could give you some feedback about that. I haven't driven an open diff car before but every little bit helps right? Lemme know if it's a viscous...I'm sure some people who've commented here have done the swap

Post by **GripR** » Mon May 02, 2005 10:44 am

kaaz is the bomb mang! day and night difference. had a little fun in the rain but didn't push it much. waiting to go to a drift day event to test it out some more.

Post by **DriftFactory** » Sun May 15, 2005 9:06 pm

I can safely say that we haven't had any customers complain about the KAAZ. Everyone we've talked to loves it. It's to the point that I usually suggest the KAAZ over the Cusco now just because of the amount of positive response that we get.

Post by **GripR** » Sun May 15, 2005 9:34 pm

I love my kaaz and so does everyone i know that has one.

Post by **vik** » Mon May 16, 2005 6:31 am

dude save your money and weld your open diffhahaha, it a 2way all the time no warm up and the best part it will only cost you a couple of good tig welds

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