LS1 Swap Who can do it? that has experience!!

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I got a 97 240sx se and I want to do a LS1 swap right away. I need someone with experience with this exact swap.

How much ?How long?How fast?How many have you done?

these are the questions Ive been asking and everyone can't answer the last question. Can anyone help me get me v8!!!!

I am looking for someone in NYC or long island!


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socal_S13Demon
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just go get a 350 small black...why on earth are you going to put it in a 97 you should put it in a v8 in like 89-90 something that has less value.

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heh. this question gets asked more and more lately.

To be honest, no one has done more of these than I have, and I don't make my kits available any more.

I am however in the process of building a new kit complete with K-memeber (bolt it in, not ship it off to be modified like Hensen's kit) and it should be available this spring.

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on behalf of the s13 owners out there I would like to say go screw yourself. Who care if he want to put LS1 in his car. Have you ever wonder why you have a truck engine in yours?

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Iunno, i've seen it 2 times. Kinda kool. Hell on PINKS! an LS1 S13 gave a 5.0 Mustang 11 Can hear start and beat it by 3 cars. Obviously it was a drag car but still the idea and oppurtunity is there. I can not help you with anything you asked but I wish you luck.

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Aries wrote:heh. this question gets asked more and more lately.

To be honest, no one has done more of these than I have, and I don't make my kits available any more.

I am however in the process of building a new kit complete with K-memeber (bolt it in, not ship it off to be modified like Hensen's kit) and it should be available this spring.
This is great news to hear...

Back in the day, I remember you saying the LS1 wouldnt fit because of the interference btw the oil pan and crossmember. Does the GTO pan now make it 'possible'?

Here's a recent thread about LS1 swaps...zerothread?id=188183

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http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/partsMainS14.htm These guys sell a prefabbed kit that will allow you to do it your self. I suppose you could send your car to them if you have lots of cash to spare.

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Aries wrote:heh. this question gets asked more and more lately.

To be honest, no one has done more of these than I have, and I don't make my kits available any more.

I am however in the process of building a new kit complete with K-memeber (bolt it in, not ship it off to be modified like Hensen's kit) and it should be available this spring.
I havent seen you around for a while, hows the car been? How many have you done anyways?

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WTF???? The Whole point of owning a 240 (for me at least) is that after my project is done I will own a 12 second 4 banger that I can drive anywhere and smoke the Freakin doors off of most V-8's and have a style that few people have. In my state I'd say there is No one that has a S13.5 and only one person that I know has done a SR20DET. Thats Statewide. If you wanna do a V-8 in something you are gonna need MAD cash and choosing something with a rigid frame is wise. Do a newer body S-10 and Quad Link the Rear-end but don't disgrace a 240.

LOL ok i feel better. It's your call tho, I just know that I've V-8ed 89 S-10 350 with a 383 stroker kit and Edelbrock RPM matching cam Intake and carb 700R4 and a Camaro LSD Rear with the mono-link, a 84 Monza 2+2 and have owned several Drag cars including my first love a 69' SS Camaro with a 396 4-spd 4 linked and Tubbed with Tunnel Ram set-up then later a low rise blower. NOTHING puts out the power like a V-8 in Bang for the Buck But for me it's about Bang for the the Cylinder. Power to weight Ratio is everything to me. SO if ya think ya can do it, I say Go for it, if you want to desecrate a fine car But it's not what is important to us, it's what's important to you

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socal_S13Demon wrote:just go get a 350 small black...why on earth are you going to put it in a 97 you should put it in a v8 in like 89-90 something that has less value.
No, no no. Do NOT get a gen 1 smallblock. Total waste of time.

Most of the LS1 swaps have cost a few grand over and above the cost of engine and trans, they're taking AGES and few people have finished.

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C'mon it's not like this is something new people, I've an S13 drift in person with an LS1 and it was quite impressive. I think you're better off with some othe option though unless you have a lot of cash to pay someone for the fab work, or alot of knowledge time and cash to do it yourself. Best of luck

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+1 on the Hinson Supercar suggestion

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Jett Blaque Vert wrote:If you wanna do a V-8 in something you are gonna need MAD cash and choosing something with a rigid frame is wise.
Actually... The LS1 swap is cheaper than an RB swap. I know this for a fact. It'd probably run you at least 2500 less to do an LS1 swap. :/

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this swap is really growing im really curious to read more about it. i have a friend thats doing a 2nd gen rx7 with a ls1 and i cant wait to see it when its done. anyone have pics of a ls1 in a s13 or s14? i would like to see how much room there is

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From what I have read on LS1tech, the Hinson stuff isn't 100% bolt in for the 240 yet. Most of the stuff has to be modified a little some more then others.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j31Yj1pZnqQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvtMBOYwRBI

i sure would love to do an ls1/t-56 swap in my S13, but finding a cheap ls1 + harness and stuff ain't gonna be ez, and i'd have to learn how to weld:), i would do it in a heartbeat if i had the $$ though.

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Jett Blaque Vert wrote:WTF???? The Whole point of owning a 240 (for me at least) is that after my project is done I will own a 12 second 4 banger that I can drive anywhere and smoke the Freakin doors off of most V-8's and have a style that few people have. In my state I'd say there is No one that has a S13.5 and only one person that I know has done a SR20DET. Thats Statewide. If you wanna do a V-8 in something you are gonna need MAD cash and choosing something with a rigid frame is wise. Do a newer body S-10 and Quad Link the Rear-end but don't disgrace a 240.

LOL ok i feel better. It's your call tho, I just know that I've V-8ed 89 S-10 350 with a 383 stroker kit and Edelbrock RPM matching cam Intake and carb 700R4 and a Camaro LSD Rear with the mono-link, a 84 Monza 2+2 and have owned several Drag cars including my first love a 69' SS Camaro with a 396 4-spd 4 linked and Tubbed with Tunnel Ram set-up then later a low rise blower. NOTHING puts out the power like a V-8 in Bang for the Buck But for me it's about Bang for the the Cylinder. Power to weight Ratio is everything to me. SO if ya think ya can do it, I say Go for it, if you want to desecrate a fine car But it's not what is important to us, it's what's important to you
Is it just me or when your reading this post doesnt it seem like if he was talking his voice would be getting higher and higher? Damn women go fart some sperm bubbles and try not to flame on your first post

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TheOne wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j31Yj1pZnqQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvtMBOYwRBI

i sure would love to do an ls1/t-56 swap in my S13, but finding a cheap ls1 + harness and stuff ain't gonna be ez, and i'd have to learn how to weld:), i would do it in a heartbeat if i had the $$ though.
LMAO @ this comment!!Check the local junkyards. I bought an LS1 + T56 combo with computer and harness for $900. Pulled right out of an 01 Z28 that rolled over.

My kits were running about $1800 for the parts and $2000 for installation and wiring. That makes the total cost of the swap very affordable, and even more so if you do it yourself. Mike (the guy with the black prmered S13 in the videos above did his swap in his garage without any kits. Just from using basic infomation on the internet. So, if you want the swap done badly enough, it can be done cheaply.

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hey aries any pics of your engine bay? im still curious how they sit.

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dude. seriously.

ive a friend with a 2nd gen rx7 and ls1. easy swap. very fast. little traction.

ive personally done a 1st gen sbc in a s13. not easy. pan and mount location was the issues. i made

custom motor mount (crossmember) and a custom oil pan. it cost me 700 dollars, i rebuilt the motor and trans, and put an edelbrock vic jr mani, comp cam and lifters, holley 650cfm carb, and msd ign. its cheap. ls1 came in sooooooo many cars. many more in the states than the rb and rwd sr came in . the most you can pay for a motorset is 5k for a brand new crate motor. go to a junkyard outside of a big city. youll find one cheeeeapppppp. or if you cant do the work, make a turbo ka and be happy.

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Aries wrote:LMAO @ this comment!!Check the local junkyards. I bought an LS1 + T56 combo with computer and harness for $900. Pulled right out of an 01 Z28 that rolled over.

My kits were running about $1800 for the parts and $2000 for installation and wiring. That makes the total cost of the swap very affordable, and even more so if you do it yourself. Mike (the guy with the black prmered S13 in the videos above did his swap in his garage without any kits. Just from using basic infomation on the internet. So, if you want the swap done badly enough, it can be done cheaply.
Are you sure it wasn't a LT-1? (heavy Iron Block version) I think that was the only option in the Z28 in 01.

I hope Im wrong, because I could get my hands on an 01 Z28 drivetrain pretty cheap too.

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Fuka LS1, Nissan V8 DOHC fer life!

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Aries ill be eagerly awaiting your kit to see costs and how everything works...its going to be available for both s-chassis i hope?

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Wow aries where you been hiding at, havent see you in for ever.

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Aries wrote:LMAO @ this comment!!Check the local junkyards. I bought an LS1 + T56 combo with computer and harness for $900. Pulled right out of an 01 Z28 that rolled over.
where?! i'll take it!

i haven't exactly visited junkjards for ls1's, but now that you say that, i may be goin there.

wouldn't i need a GTO oil pan for it to fit over the x-member though?(just wondering, i know i could prolly get those cheap)

man you should bring that lt1 240sx around here, that'd show my friend who's building an lt1 for his 92 camaro where that engine would fit better and go faster.

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Not sure if this is completely related, but anyone know how much more difficult it would be to throw an LS2 in a 240? How much more would it cost and how much more fabrication?

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SR20Essex wrote:
Are you sure it wasn't a LT-1? (heavy Iron Block version) I think that was the only option in the Z28 in 01.

I hope Im wrong, because I could get my hands on an 01 Z28 drivetrain pretty cheap too.
93-97 Camaro/Transam -LT1 iron block98-up Camaro/Transam LS1 Aluminum block, coil on plug

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yelnatsch517 wrote:Not sure if this is completely related, but anyone know how much more difficult it would be to throw an LS2 in a 240? How much more would it cost and how much more fabrication?
youd be paying a lot more for the engine when you could really do more stuff with the less expensive ls1

im actually going to be trying to get the engine out of an iirc 01-02 or 00-01, something like that, camaro SS...its an ls6 block (superior design) and just uses ls1 stuff for everything else, but you can turn it into an actual ls6 or even better without too much difficulty

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Wnoda - how much you want for your engine with turbo parts hmmmm? lol

LS1? come on man you crazy. Just do a RB25 swap and be happy. easier, many people have done it, its turbo, what else do you need? torque? don't make me laugh

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nismofly wrote:youd be paying a lot more for the engine when you could really do more stuff with the less expensive ls1

im actually going to be trying to get the engine out of an iirc 01-02 or 00-01, something like that, camaro SS...its an ls6 block (superior design) and just uses ls1 stuff for everything else, but you can turn it into an actual ls6 or even better without too much difficulty
the ls6 block isnt superior at all, it makes the same exact power as ls1 and the ls1 can take the same ls6 parts, so really if youre searching specifically for an ls6, you'd just be getting the name. the only reason they got put in was because they started running out of ls1s in 01-02


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