LS VTEC DC2 Vs. S13 HB w/SR20DET

[CoupedUp]

You gona spank him what ive found out about turbo is if your gona race a NA car it better have about 60HP more cuz a turbo is good for 60-80 HP Vs a NA

Umm, He Lost.

If it is 200 HP(N/A) vs. 200 HP(Turbo) at the same weight. Given same driver skill and Gearing. Ill put money on the N/A everyday if it has a decent head design for the upper end.

If you need 260-280 HP to beat a 200HP car. You have more issues than no turbo.

Would an LS1 240SX be even to a Stock SR 240SX? Because it has no turbo? and about 80 more WHP?

[redtop91]

Your LS1 example is terribly skewed. An LS1 has a much flatter torque, and creates more HP and torque at a lower RPM than any Honda motor can dream of.

[elgarvo616]

You gona spank him what ive found out about turbo is if your gona race a NA car it better have about 60HP more cuz a turbo is good for 60-80 HP Vs a NA

wha wha what? horsepower = horsepower. doesnt matter if its forced or not.

and oh yea,

[White Comet]

wha wha what? horsepower = horsepower. doesnt matter if its forced or not.

and oh yea,

[Sil80sushi]

My friend has a 91 Prelude with a H22 I/H/E combo he weighs in at 39xx, I have a 1990 240sx with a Red top Sr with Intercooler and exhaust i weigh in at 2860 we both have about 200Whp i pull on him every time from a stop from a roll anything. So having a turbo does matter and does make a difference it, it may be same HP but just because you have forced induction it helps you get up to speeds faster.
Modified by Sil80sushi at 5:27 PM 8/18/2007

[redtop91]

S13's weigh 2700lbs

[Sil80sushi]

2860 full interior, full tank gas, and about 220 from my fat ***Also forgot to mention had spare and all the tools and stuff too

[redtop91]

I still don't think that accounts for 1000lbs. Anyways NA is superior to FI in every way, however, Honda NA is a lot less useful than say your standard domestic motor. They lack the off the line torque that makes domestics so dangerous. Honda's are good once they get going, but unless you are racing from a roll or on a high speed road course, they really can't compete IMO. As always there are exceptions to any rules.

[elgarvo616]

So having a turbo does matter and does make a difference it, it may be same HP but just because you have forced induction it helps you get up to speeds faster.

you believe that? look at the fastest cars in the world (f1), are naturally aspirated. N/A is better in every way over forced induction (aside from price).

a well set up honda is a hard thing to beat, no matter where the race is happening.

[Sil80sushi]

I still don't think that accounts for 1000lbs. Anyways NA is superior to FI in every way, however, Honda NA is a lot less useful than say your standard domestic motor. They lack the off the line torque that makes domestics so dangerous. Honda's are good once they get going, but unless you are racing from a roll or on a high speed road course, they really can't compete IMO. As always there are exceptions to any rules.

1000lb What the crack are you smoking re read my post then get back to meAlso were not talking about Race cars here and if we were talking about Fast Street Cars isnt the Fasts car a V12 with like 4 turbos or somthing? any ways were talking about a DC2 Teg and SR i don't know if y'all even have the cars or even race them but your crazy if you think 200 NA Honda can beat a 200 Turbo SR cant happen wont ever happen in a 1/4 mile a SR can pull around mid to low 14's now a Honda at that HP will only o high 14's

[redtop91]

Everytime you post you prove how little you actually know. I was trying to be decent but now I'm just going to tell you straight up. You are fvcking stupid. First you post some bull$hit saying that NA needs 60 whp on FI to win? What in the f*** are you talking about? And then you say here:

My friend has a 91 Prelude with a H22 I/H/E combo he weighs in at 39xx, I have a 1990 240sx with a Red top Sr with Intercooler and exhaust i weigh in at 3860 we both have about 200Whp i pull on him every time from a stop from a roll anything. So having a turbo does matter and does make a difference it, it may be same HP but just because you have forced induction it helps you get up to speeds faster.

That a fvcking 91 Prelude weighs 3900 lbs and a 240 weighs 3860? Get the f*** off of this board you rice boy retard ****** idiot son of a b1tch you don't know sh1t about anything. And learn to fvcking post coherently you fvcking Hindu.

[WDRacing]

you believe that? look at the fastest cars in the world (f1), are naturally aspirated. N/A is better in every way over forced induction (aside from price).

a well set up honda is a hard thing to beat, no matter where the race is happening.

I'm not one to tell people when they are completely wrong...ok I am...lol. In this case, you're so wrong it's comical. The fastest cars on the PLANET have huge blowers attached to them bro...that's a no brainer. I know almost EVERYTHING about FI compared to NA and I can make one blanket statement that is simply fact, take ANY NA motor and add one lb of boost over atmospheric and you'll gain power. Period dot...

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This whole BS thread about what is faster and how much it takes to be faster is like comparing apples and oranges...you simply DON'T do it unless you want to appear to know nothing about everything.

There are some many variables involved in ANY road race that HP goes out the window. NA can be faster then a FI car that has double the available power. Then again the rolls can easily be reversed.

Racing in the simplest terms is all about time spent in the power curve and the shape of said curve. It doesn't matter whether you're comparing a VTEC 2 liter to a LSX...

Anyone that says Honda doesn't make a great motor is an idiot.

WD

[elgarvo616]

WDracing > me

[WDRacing]

Not to badly, F1 is definitly where it's at as far as technical advancement goes. Compared to stuff a 500 cubic inch motor with nitromethane and a huge huffer F1 is the friggin Enterprise of racing.

WD

[Sil80sushi]

Everytime you post you prove how little you actually know. I was trying to be decent but now I'm just going to tell you straight up. You are fvcking stupid. First you post some bull$hit saying that NA needs 60 whp on FI to win? What in the f*** are you talking about? And then you say here:That a fvcking 91 Prelude weighs 3900 lbs and a 240 weighs 3860? Get the f*** off of this board you rice boy retard ****** idiot son of a b1tch you don't know sh1t about anything. And learn to fvcking post coherently you fvcking Hindu.

Your a dildo and also you know how to read a broucher that came with the car see me i went to a track and wieghed myself in so i know for a fact on how much i wiegh now what i READ on the internet you dumb internet warrior **** head and im more then sure if i a turbo car had 200hp a N/a would need 40-80Hp to beat me in the 1/4 Track time prove it son now STFU and go look at some gay porb you *** hole

[redtop91]

Did you have you car weighed at a hot wheels race track? You are stupid as hell. An S13 doesn't weigh 3000lbs. What the f*** is porb? Sil80sushi you are a typical example of a Texan. Dumb as hell and too stupid to realize an obvious mistake. I'm going to prove how stupid you are right now. The newest generation Cadillac Deville weighs in at 3800 lbs. Your stupid as$ is really trying to say that an S13 weighs more? Hahahahahaha sell your car to a probe ricer. An S13 doesn't deserve to be driven by the likes of you.

[Sil80sushi]

Did you have you car weighed at a hot wheels race track? You are stupid as hell. An S13 doesn't weigh 3000lbs.

Do you know anything about your car other then what people on the internet have "Told" you? Have you ever been to a Track? you know what STFU go get your license cuz you lost it doing 130 you stupid kid slow down and keep it at the track

[redtop91]

Answer me this question. A Cadillac Deville weighs 3800 lbs. You are saying that an S13 weighs more? Yes or no is all that is necessary.

[Sil80sushi]

After looking back at my post i was wrong i did a typo i was meaning to say 2860 not 3860 thats my fault thats why i didnt understand where the 1000lb was coming from ill re edit my post to match the right numbers i still know for a fact tho that your gona be a integra

[DriftReadyS13]

had it only took u like 10 posts to realise u were wrong.... sorry but redtop just u.

[Sil80sushi]

I dont called it owned since it was only one post that was wrong and all the others were right he gave me a black eye not a dirty saunches

[DriftReadyS13]

black eyes are no fun. and dirty sanchez is only fun if ur giving haha..... but pignose ftw btw haha. i love uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu guys

[WDRacing]

Spelling ownz you ALL...I sware kids nowadays are all born with down syndrome.

[Sil80sushi]

Spelling ownz you ALL...I sware kids nowadays are all born with down syndrome.

i do admit i suck at spelling and grammer but you try spelling right when all you did in school was skip and sleep

[DriftReadyS13]

lol i can spell its just the keys on my lap top have some shyt under them its makes crushing noises when i push certain keys down

[redtop91]

Spelling ownz you ALL...I sware kids nowadays are all born with down syndrome.

hahahaha so what is your excuse for sucking at spelling?

[DriftReadyS13]

haha punked himself while trying to punk us muhahaha i love nico

[WDRacing]

hahahaha so what is your excuse for sucking at spelling?

Sucking at spelling would infer that O didn't mean to spell it exactly like I did. Ryon...we both know I'm infallible.

[DriftReadyS13]

i just farted while laughing at the rx-7 getttin rear ended

[SERUM]

your crazy if you think 200 NA Honda can beat a 200 Turbo SR cant happen wont ever happen in a 1/4 mile a SR can pull around mid to low 14's now a Honda at that HP will only o high 14's

A 200 hp N/A honda would whoop a 200 hp sr's ***. Go ahead and up the boost to 14psi and you still would lose. A integra or civic would own your *** with an h22 and ITR transmission. Face it man if we are talking strictly drag racing, you could have John Force behind your wheel with a good driver piloting the civic/integra you still may lose. So as far as 200 hp on both cars. HONDA