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Well, I ended up screwing my thumb up at work and they had to dig around in it for 3 hours on friday, so I didnt start the swap on friday as planned, or saturday, but instead on sunday, and I took pics for everyone to see progress.

By the way, Can someone tell me if I can get rid of that carbon canister and just plug up the lines or use the for boost sources?

http://www.ka-t.org/pictures/swap1.jpgh ... /swap8.jpg

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Oh, and does anyone want to outline for me with is involved for wiring in ballast resistors for low-impedence injectors and hooking up top feed injectors to side feed clips?

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buy top feed injector clipshttp://www.store.yahoo.com/sr2....html

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Sweet, on their way.

Did any of you guys have any trouble mounting a Greddy Vspec fmic and it running into the ends of the frame on the front end? Mine wont sit back far enough to fit in there! Any ideas?

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Oh, and if Anyone cares, the engine is going in tomorrow, its going to the exhaust shop to get a downpipe fabbed and hotpipe made, and then it comes back and will be done as soon as I wire up the stand alone...

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OK, So After working feverishly on the project everyday this week after work, and taking a half-day on wednesday and a full day off today to get the car down to the exhaust shop, I have finally gotten to a point where I am going to take a day off, and I thought you all might like to know what is going on.

We got the engine in around 11pm on wednesday night, got it bolted all around, and I decided to hit the clutch pedal to see how the stage 3 clutch felt, i pushed it and it didnt come back up. Ill get to that later. Seeing as how the clutch problem wasnt going to interrupt getting the downpipe made, we proceeded to find out where to mount the turbo on the JGS Manifold. Basically, the frickin brake lines get in the way, and you cant position the flanges high enough up on the manifold and be able to still weld them down, so we decided to leave it off and see if the guy at the exhaust shop could throw it together. Got the car on the trailer around 1am, and went to sleep for a bit. Up at 6am and gone by 7am, we were told by the owner of the exhaust shop that he didnt schedule us in enough time, and ultimately showed us a better way to mount it, which is going to work out awesome, and the manifold and flanges are at a metal fabrication shop getting worked on and I should have some pics up by tomorrow.

About the clutch, when we were trying to twist the engine around to get it to line up, we somehow knocked the throwout assembly ****-eyed and we once again, pulled the engine, and put it back in again (im getting pretty good at this now). All of the gauges, battery kit, wires, vacuum lines, and wastegate are going to get installed this weekend and I will start working on the computer after thats done. The car is scheduled to go back to the exhaust shop next thursday and we are going to try it again, but it is going to work this time im sure.

Anyways, ill have some new pics up this weekend or so.

Rick

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I'm interested.. since no one else is giving you any support.. :)

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thanx for the play by play, it is helping me realize how much time is going into this.

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yeah man keep it coming, you're doing what I'd like to do this winter... lemmie know how the JGS stuff works out (were you able to get a deal if you ordered a bunch of stuff?), I had my eye on them for most of my parts...

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fiznat wrote:yeah man keep it coming, you're doing what I'd like to do this winter... lemmie know how the JGS stuff works out (were you able to get a deal if you ordered a bunch of stuff?), I had my eye on them for most of my parts...


The only deal I was able to get was on shipping since I am only about 2 hours away from them driving, so it wasnt much. But other than that - no. We are making the JGS Manifold work, but its going to be a very tight fit and I will need to get some sheet metal and bend some heat shields so I dont melt my master cylinder. What I was saying about having to make it fit, was that you cant rotate the flange with the round cut-out around enough and make it sit flat enough on the manifold, the corners run into the tops of the runners, so I made another round-ish cutout and moved the flange forward so it is over the #2 runner and partway to the #3 runner, It might have a performance affect, but it's the only way it could be done. Ill be getting the manifold back from the fab shop tomorrow and ill take some pics of what I mean.

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I am considering getting the JGS manifold, would you recommend it after all this? Or just go with something like the U-H manifold for $450 shipped?

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Well, I cant say I wouldnt reccomend it, because I dont know what kind of performance I am going to get out of it and it has been cheaper so far than the UH's Manifold and one of the reasons I am having troubles is because the turbine housing is a .84 A/R so its good sized, if I would have gone with something smaller I think It would have worked better. If you have the extra money to spend I would go with a pre-built manifold.

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So Ive got a bunch of pics of the swap as it is coming along nicely, I got the bumper bracket notched and cut to accept the intercooler end tanks and got the bumper cutout so it doesnt hit the intercooler. Here are a few pics, I will post more tomorrow when I have more time.

http://www.ka-t.org/pictures/front1.jpg ... front7.jpg

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So, it seems nobody is interested in my KA-T swap which kind of suprises me, but im sure theres at least ONE person who does, so look at how bad I hacked up my JGS manifold, and if you read my post a couple posts up, youll see what I mean.

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Actually this thread has at the moment 507 views, so people are interested.. we are just silent bystanders... jeje

PS: Never got back to me on that webspace you offered...

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im interested. and that is definatley a hack job. such a hack job that is confuses me when i look at some of the close up pics. please continue with the updates about ur turbo kit.

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prety nifty work my man but uhh...where's the turbo?! don't mean to be an @$$ or anything but when is the turbo coming in???

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Oh crap, I guess it would have helped if I would have posted the pictures on the website, Ill get them up there tonight.

The turbo is in the car, the downpipe is done, the wastegate is done, the front end is back together, I am currently wiring up the LinkPlus standalone. The only things left are:

Put battery in trunkReplace the rubber fuel lines and run a new filterHide the wiresPut radiator inGet upper intercooler pipe to fit to throttle body.

As you can see, Im pretty close to being done, i have all of my injectors wired into the computer, Im going to do the distributor setup tonight and hopefully get my gauges put back together. Im shooting to be going through the far one final time to check everything before i get it started probably sunday.

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Lookin good man. Did you find ouy anything about the canister yet?

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I took it out and smashed it on the ground, I officially have NO emissions control crap on my car now :0

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sweet azz project man. looking good. what kind of boost are you gonig to run? i am not familiar with that kit. good move on the smog shyt. thats the only way to go, little bit more room and a little bit more power. well i have got a question about the huge greddy FMIC. i've seen alot of S14's with the factory front bumper and the big greddy FMIC. my question is are you going to cut some of the bumper out in the top middle to allow for more cooling capabilities? just a thought. if you haven't seen anything like that i could show you some pics. i just think its a crying shame to spend that much money on that beautiful FMIC and choke some of it off and also be hiding some of it.

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Ok I may have missed it but what injectors are you running that you need to wire in resistors? I was looking at running DSM 440's on my turbo setup and I'm pretty certain they require resistors so you may be able to help me out. Details, details :)

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another ka24det on the road. good luck with it :)

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I like to call it the Merina Turbo kit, and anyone who knows me knows my last name is Merina. I put it all together myself.

As far as the bumper, My bumper support got taken out but the black piece that sits on top of the big bumper support is still in, but it sits on top of the IC now.

As far as how much boost im going to run, Ill have to see, Im not going to run more than 7psi until I can get some type of a stock boost control solenoid from some turbo car to wire into my standalone, and the internal map sensor on the standalone only goes to 22psi, which ill be looking to surpass and come to around 28psi at the strip.

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95_240sx wrote:I like to call it the Merina Turbo kit, and anyone who knows me knows my last name is Merina. I put it all together myself.

As far as the bumper, My bumper support got taken out but the black piece that sits on top of the big bumper support is still in, but it sits on top of the IC now.

As far as how much boost im going to run, Ill have to see, Im not going to run more than 7psi until I can get some type of a stock boost control solenoid from some turbo car to wire into my standalone, and the internal map sensor on the standalone only goes to 22psi, which ill be looking to surpass and come to around 28psi at the strip.

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Did you replace all the internals or something? 28 PSi is approx. double what the stock KA internals can take.

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Goto http://www.ka-t.org

JE billet aluminum 8.4:1 pistonscrower rods, o-ringed block-among other things.

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Damn, this is the first that I have really seen this thread, and I gotta say, you're goin' all out!! This is about the length that I was thinking of going with my KA-T project. I got my donor '95 motor complete, and want to start sourcing machine shops that can offer shot peening. I was thinking of running the same piston/rod combo that you are, and doing a great deal of port work and polishing of the head and intake manifold. I'll do a great deal of work myself, but I need to find a place I can put my confidence in for the honing, balancing, and other misc. work. I was thinking of using a stand-alone like the Haltech, or MoTec, with A'PEXi boost control from an AVC-R (If possible). I already have a KA-T up and running, but I want a better manifold and stronger than stock bottom end. If I go to the trouble of building it up, though, I figured I would do it right (Like you have). This is actually for my KA24DE Frontier pickup truck, which is boosted pretty stoutly right now. I just wanted to use a 240SX KA, though, because they are much stronger than the truck motor.John

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Thanks for the good words...

With quite a few standalones, they have built in boost control to where the computer controls it.

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That's what I was wondering, because I don't really want an aftermarket piggy back type system to work in conjunction with a stand alone. I could also just rely on the manual boost control regulator that I already have, and adjustable/interchangeable springs. I would rather there be more science to it, though...John

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If anyone is interested, I put some pictures up of the Manifold and the downpipe.

http://www.ka-t.org/pictures/manifold1.jpg

http://www.ka-t.org/pictures/manifold2.jpg

http://www.ka-t.org/pictures/downpipe1.jpg

Its hard to get the end of the mig welder in there to weld the flange together.

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