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i agree. i only said stand alone for the 400 hp set up cause im not a real big fan of the jwt retune. i think they're way over priced


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What kind of bottom end am i lookin at? For fuel I was just gonna get those 550 injectors, probably a Z32 fuel pump or something of the sort. I don't know what kind of lines i need to run though. I wouldnt want to blow a fuel line at 65psi , especially all over a hot turbo manifold. Couldn't imagine that would be pretty. If yall wanna be really nice and give me a "to get" list, that would be tits and i would be very thankful, appreciate the feedback, <<<Tom>>>

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Tweaky_Tom wrote:What kind of bottom end am i lookin at? For fuel I was just gonna get those 550 injectors, probably a Z32 fuel pump or something of the sort. I don't know what kind of lines i need to run though. I wouldnt want to blow a fuel line at 65psi , especially all over a hot turbo manifold. Couldn't imagine that would be pretty. If yall wanna be really nice and give me a "to get" list, that would be tits and i would be very thankful, appreciate the feedback, <<<Tom>>>


Yeah, that might ruin your day REAL fast.

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I have a Linkplus standalone, which is made by some guys who started MoTec. I paid $1300 including the laptop, ecu, wiring, and PClink but the igniter was about $100 and the injector resistor were $10 each, but if you have high impedance injectors you dont need resistors.

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Doesn't sound TOO outrageous. What about installation? Did you pay to have it done or was it not that hard to do yourself? Also, is it harder to add the turbo and then the stand alone or the stand alone and then the turbo? It sounds like it would just require some extra wiring and a software update, but then again im just guessing. Okay, so far we've got:

A custom turbo kit= $3000?A Stand Alone FMS= $1400Rods and pistons = $650? Still don't know what brand or spec550cc H.I. Injectors=$350Bosch 700hp fuel pump=$200Fuel rail= no idea what to get.Fuel lines= same boat as above.Full catback Exhaust =$1100Down pipe= don't know where to get a custom job.

Please fill me in on anything else i need.

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Hey it's not that hard to install the turbo kit, I helped my friend install his, and his fuel injectors, it took us a good 5hours but we were stopping and making 7/11 runs plus people kept stopping by to see how we were doing. And that was the first time we did it. When we install mine I anticipate it taking even less time.Where can you get a turbo kit for $3k??? I'd like to know the one I'm looking at now is $4k is there some kinda special somewhere???

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What about a stand alone? What kind of install experience is needed there?

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Oh, that turbo kit is from a friend who's doin a swap.

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I dunno about the stand alone, we're cheap, the Vortech FMU is good enough for me....

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Im cheap too... :) don't get me wrong. I just want the option of being able to detune my car at the click of a mouse. From economy to race ready if you know what i mean. Nothin too drastic tho. I don't expect to go from stock to 10sec 1/4 miles or anything...would be nice tho.

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catback exhaust for $1100??? is it made out of gold?

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Yeah I hear that, I was thinking that the t04b was good but from what 95_240sx says it spools up at 3500 rpms, I don't have a built up engine so I decided to go for the T3/T4 I just want enough hp's so I don't feel so sluggish...

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from what i hear T3/TO4E 50 trim and .63 A/R seems to be the weapon of choice

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Yeah little lag with some payoff, what do you have??

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Add, at the very least $500-750 for misc stuff, because it WILL happen. Ive got about 11k into my project from the day I started it when I bought the donor engine for $550. I only make boost starting at 3.5k in 2nd and higher, but in 1st I cant put it to the ground. Im amazed at what kind of response that T04B has. And, my JE Aluminum pistons were about $750 with rings and spirolox, and the rods around $750 after i bought rod bearing for them from Nissan. So, make your catback price $550 and add a bunch to pistons and rods. And your misc budget. As far as standalone, its not easy, and you MUST be able to under stand wiring diagrams and abbreviations in the FSM, which you HAVE to have to eve think about wiring in a standalone.

Dont let me disappoint you, because I learned as I went, and I learned ALOT, soo, more power to you if you want to do it. Its a great process.

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GreatSX wrote:Yeah little lag with some payoff, what do you have??


what turbo do i have? nothing at the moment. i was going to go the NSport route but have decided to wait for WDRacing's kit. i think the wait will be worth it due to the cost of the kit. and i bought my car in May so i havent had much time to do anything serious so far.

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It will happen, just be patient.

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I'm still a big fan of the JWT computers. They are plug and play and you don't have to have a dyno to do the tuning the right way. $595 might be alot to pay for the upgrade to the ECU but most good stand alone systems are at least twice that. With the Cobra MAF and Nismo 550 cc injectors, you can make upwards of 350 hp, which is alot in a small car. I used a T3/T4 hybrid from Turbonetics and love it. It spools immediately and pulls strong all of the way through the RPM range. As Rick says above, any turbo system will cost more than you expect do to all of the "little things" that seem to come up. A strong (and expensive) bottom end will ensure that your engine lasts with all of the abuse it will probably get. Short cutting the prep will most likely lead to a more expensive fix later on down the line.

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I hydralocked my car this weekend,(I hate Virginia) I'm so bummed, I've been thinking about by a KA and slowly building it up and get a progressive nitrous kit, and get the T04b, I'm just so bummed.... from it all, it happened in the matter of seconds, If I would've just drove straight home instead of making a booty call, it wouldv'e never happened, there's a lesson in there somewhere...:(

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Does anybody know the life expectancy of a KA-T if well maintained. My current KA has 140k on it but runs awesome. With a strong bottem end, how long do you think it would last at 325-350hp? That's probably (im just taking a shot) around 13-14lbs of boost finly tuned. Granted the engine has all top end requirements. <<<Tom>>>

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A engine will last forever if you take care of it and dont do something stupid. Like run excessive boost

Turbo 510
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My engine puts out about 270-280 HP @ 15 psi. Again, life expectancy depends upon the care given to it throughout it's life and what has been done to the motor to ensure it can put up with the stress that a turbo puts on an engine. Excessive boost with kill an unprepared engine very quickly even if it has been well cared for up to the point that the owner says "what would happen if I just twist the boost controller alittle more....


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