im trying to add power !!!!! please....

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Red Devil
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Let us know how much it costs for a new MR18DE w/t transmission when you blow your current drivetrain up.


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They Call Me Whatshisname
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Red Devil wrote:Let us know how much it costs for a new MR18DE w/t transmission when you blow your current drivetrain up.

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rafa2210 wrote:I am trying to add power to the car other than exhaust and intake... but i dont have the money to open the engine and modify it inside... i already heard the turbonator is BS. im trying to add MSD ignition, spark wires, etc...I was looking in the internet and found this performance chip... well, two of them.. one seems too cheap to be good :s i wonder if anyone has any experience with this product? any PERSONAL experience? this is one: http://slrmotorsports.com/shop...p=650

and this is the otherone: http://www.horsepowerchip.com/default.html
my versa is turbo charged

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They Call Me Whatshisname
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I really like your work on chopping the V. As you can see, I am quite the connoisseur of MS paint.

rafa2210
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can you tell me what u had to change? how did u supercharge it?

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There is no turbo kit for the V.The only turbo that was around was from Fox Marketing and it was only on their demo car. They're pulling your leg.

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"I wish my Versa was faster"

I swear. If you make this car faster you are going to blow it up! The day I drove up the hills in WV and hit 6000rpm trying to maintain 70 mph was the day I said it just is not going to happen..

But, making it lighter sounds like the best option I have heard so far. A huge engine mod and turbo someday would work but by the time you do it you might as well have bought another car!

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1)who doesnt wish the versa had just alil bit more, theres nothing wrong with messing around with his car in his spare time, he never said he wanted a race car, just alil bit more

2)you'll find that at 75 mph and higher the versa pulls harder in 6th than anything else, that dinky lil scoop does a very good job of getting rid of alot of the vacuum after 75-80 mph, you'll find that at the same throttle pressure it'll just slowly keep creeping up in speed as it gets more and more air(@65 i get 32 mpg @ 75 i get 45mpg @85-90 i get 60mpg, i made it from buffalo to Illinois and back on a single tank of gas, was driving origanalwheelman and our buddy to pick up that black Z32)3)your pretty much bang on, but rear seats are nice to have...

Red Devil
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Except for every 5 mph over 60 you lose a certain percentage of efficiency. Aerodynamic drag alone would reduce mpg.

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in gernal i would agree greatly, but my versa gets way way way better milage above 75 upto about 100, and it takes far less throttle pressure to maintain the higher speeds as well, like i said, once i hit 75 and i keep acceling with about 15% throttle, and until i have my foot not even fulling resting on the peddle will i stop pulling

infact i even warned my buddy when he borrowed mty versa to go to jersey about that and he still got a ticket for 100mph in a 65(he was headign to base so he got off easy) and he got 65mpg on that trip too so i know its not just me

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They Call Me Whatshisname
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That goes against every single fact about mpg I've ever heard or read. I'm not saying you're wrong. Who knows, maybe they forgot to put the top secret MPG killer device in your car.

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honestly by the better mpg and way better throttle respone than any of gear at same rpm i think the intake scoop is finaly building 1-2lbs of boost(atleast not -20 to-30lbs) which would take alot of drag off the moter

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No, I'm good friends with ltg. He let me borrow the versa almost a year ago to see my girlfriend (now fiance) from Buffalo to Montville, NJ. I was driving at about 75-100 the entire time (and paid 210 for it), and I got there only refilling once right near the Pennsylvania/New Jersey border. Don't doubt the Versa. It really does just creep up on you once you get up there in speed.

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hey Red Devil, the MR18DE and transmission prices around five grand i think. But i'm sorry you are afraid of adding a little bit of fun to your V. Let's not forget Civics and Integras were never meant to produce over 200 even over 300 horsepower, they were suppose to be for your mom to come pick you up from school. Just venting a little bit, but let's show support to those willing to innovate and push the little ecobox we call a "Versa" our ride we take pride in to the limits.

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lordthygod wrote:honestly by the better mpg and way better throttle respone than any of gear at same rpm i think the intake scoop is finaly building 1-2lbs of boost(atleast not -20 to-30lbs) which would take alot of drag off the moter
What car are you talking about? It sure ISNT a Versa.
9Blazin wrote:hey Red Devil, the MR18DE and transmission prices around five grand i think. But i'm sorry you are afraid of adding a little bit of fun to your V. Let's not forget Civics and Integras were never meant to produce over 200 even over 300 horsepower, they were suppose to be for your mom to come pick you up from school. Just venting a little bit, but let's show support to those willing to innovate and push the little ecobox we call a "Versa" our ride we take pride in to the limits.
I've already said this about a thousand times, I don't NEED to support anyone in their endeavors. It's a forum, I can express my opinion/dislike on power adders as I see fit. As far as being "afraid" to add "fun" to the V, I don't need to. I bought the car for a DD that gets decent gas mileage and didn't break the bank. I have my 300whp 240SX for the fun driving.

With all the money spent on trying to add power to a car that isn't built for it, you could easily buy a higher performance car that would have more power and more of a "fun factor" to toss around than the V ever could. Hell, look at the new Hyundai Genesis Coupe. A factory turbo 4 cyl/ V-6 with options such as Brembo brakes and a factory LSD. It starts out at $23k. I'm entitled to my opinion on the matter, so please dont tell me what I NEED to do.

I do give you kudos for trolling for something with the whole "afraid" thing.

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I would of spent the money on a Sentra SE-R if I wanted power. No need to waste money on the V engine.

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don't like the way Sentra feels Mile High, and Red Devil, nothin' but respect, it's just a little funny when you suck up a Honda or other ricer out there with the Versa. We got nothing to lose!!!! We already know, it's a Versa!!!!

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lordthygod wrote:
2)you'll find that at 75 mph and higher the versa pulls harder in 6th than anything else, that dinky lil scoop does a very good job of getting rid of alot of the vacuum after 75-80 mph, you'll find that at the same throttle pressure it'll just slowly keep creeping up in speed as it gets more and more air(@65 i get 32 mpg @ 75 i get 45mpg @85-90 i get 60mpg, i made it from buffalo to Illinois and back on a single tank of gas, was driving origanalwheelman and our buddy to pick up that black Z32)
I have to say that i didnt believe it when i read it because "IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE"... but when i go to tampa at 70mph, the gas-light comes off at 91-94 miles...... i went to miami this past weekend, and i drove at 80mph, and surprisingly i put gas at 310 miles and the light had not come off yet ...... so i could not prove u wrong lmao

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Well he can't be talking about a Versa.

1. No hood scoop on the darn thing.

2. The Versa can't build boost because it isn't forced induction.

There's no way anyone can get high mpg going over 70 mph. The engine is running at higher RPM which means more fuel used. There's also aero drag that requires more fuel to overcome it and go faster.

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i never said scoop on the hood, i said under, its part of the air intake, its mounted right behind the grill, and connects to your air intake box

you don't need forced induction to get rid of vacuum, just ram air with a scoop, you are right 99% sure its not actually getting boost, but i did put (or at least less vacuum ) there so that the idea of more air into motor was there, cuz most people don't seem to make the connection between less vacuum=more combustible air in the motor

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how would u explain why my Versa ran so many miles without the light coming off at 80mph? and it runs less at 70mph? all i have is, 17 rims, springs, and cold air intake (fujita)......

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rafa2210 wrote:how would u explain why my Versa ran so many miles without the light coming off at 80mph? and it runs less at 70mph? all i have is, 17 rims, springs, and cold air intake (fujita)......
One hell of a tail wind?

A good push from the truck behind you?

Poor math?

All of the above?

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rafa2210 wrote: when i go to tampa at 70mph
Why the hell would you come to Tampa. I live here and don't even want to go here!

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You added more fuel in one fill than the other.

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Ok ya'll keep talkin this MPG thing. I have had my 07 Versa for a year now and the best mileage I ever got was 387 on a tank coming home from the beach. 5 1/2 hour trip averaging about 70 mph the whole way. Now I can't even get 280 on a tank. And that is with regular oil changes, that I do myself btw. I have the Stillen Cold Air Intake and Axle Back Exhaust (sux btw), also running 225/40 18"!! Yeah I know heavy rims and tires, but hell they look good. One thing I am lookin at to reduce weight is complete carbon fiber exterior. My boy does good carbon fiber work and we will be making molds of all the exterior pieces so it won't be overlays. But anyway, got any ideas about the MPG thing? Don't understand why I can't get the mileage out of it that I should.

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She Devil wrote:Ok ya'll keep talkin this MPG thing. I have had my 07 Versa for a year now and the best mileage I ever got was 387 on a tank coming home from the beach. 5 1/2 hour trip averaging about 70 mph the whole way. Now I can't even get 280 on a tank. And that is with regular oil changes, that I do myself btw. I have the Stillen Cold Air Intake and Axle Back Exhaust (sux btw), also running 225/40 18"!! Yeah I know heavy rims and tires, but hell they look good. One thing I am lookin at to reduce weight is complete carbon fiber exterior. My boy does good carbon fiber work and we will be making molds of all the exterior pieces so it won't be overlays. But anyway, got any ideas about the MPG thing? Don't understand why I can't get the mileage out of it that I should.
Wheels and tires and going 70mph. It also depends on the exterior environment. I've gotten better mileage in the warm than in the cold.

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I was about to ask if you two were husband and wife or dating, but then I noticed the locations LOL

She Devil
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OMG darlin!!! That is too funny!!!

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I'll bet your mileage went down the tubes after those 18" wheels went on...carbon fiber body is not going to change your MPG, but 10 lb wheels sure will. There just isn't enough "body" to replace with CF...although go for the CF wheels and the "ceramic disc brakes", NO NOT pads but the actual ceramic discs with the appropriate pads. That option will more than double your car value with NO stress on the engine. Your mileage will go well into the 400's, even at 70 average.

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raventare wrote:I'll bet your mileage went down the tubes after those 18" wheels went on...carbon fiber body is not going to change your MPG, but 10 lb wheels sure will. There just isn't enough "body" to replace with CF...although go for the CF wheels and the "ceramic disc brakes", NO NOT pads but the actual ceramic discs with the appropriate pads. That option will more than double your car value with NO stress on the engine. Your mileage will go well into the 400's, even at 70 average.
What? Carbon Fiber wheels? Ceramic Disc brakes? Last time I checked there is CF wheels for motorcycles and a $12,000 set developed by a company. There are no ceramic disc brakes for the V out there. I don't even think there are any on the aftermarket. You only see supercars upwards of $100,000 using them.

Carbon Ceramic disc brakes advantage isn't so much lightness, it's more related to better heat dissipation. It can dissipate heat better, reducing brake fade and improving performance.

If you replace panels with CF and gut the interior then you will get better acceleration and handling. You'll also be doing something extremely pointless IMO. You'll be spending the same amount you bought the car for, trying to make it faster, and get only half the performance of something comparable.

Let's say that you spent all this money on the V and you got a grand total of $25,000. You can EASILY buy a used 240SX for $3000, buy a Tomei SR20DET engine package, upgrade the suspension and basically prep it for drifting/racing. And that $25,000 is being conservative. If we were more realistic at around $30,000 you could easily get a 350/370Z.

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Red Devil wrote:
What? Carbon Fiber wheels? Ceramic Disc brakes? Last time I checked there is CF wheels for motorcycles and a $12,000 set developed by a company. There are no ceramic disc brakes for the V out there. I don't even think there are any on the aftermarket. You only see supercars upwards of $100,000 using them.

Carbon Ceramic disc brakes advantage isn't so much lightness, it's more related to better heat dissipation. It can dissipate heat better, reducing brake fade and improving performance.

If you replace panels with CF and gut the interior then you will get better acceleration and handling. You'll also be doing something extremely pointless IMO. You'll be spending the same amount you bought the car for, trying to make it faster, and get only half the performance of something comparable.

Let's say that you spent all this money on the V and you got a grand total of $25,000. You can EASILY buy a used 240SX for $3000, buy a Tomei SR20DET engine package, upgrade the suspension and basically prep it for drifting/racing. And that $25,000 is being conservative. If we were more realistic at around $30,000 you could easily get a 350/370Z.
Or maybe he can do what he wants and be the only Versa owner with that type of setup. Its better to be different than to most of the times be the same. I hate when I see Mustangs, Cavaliers, Civics, Tiburons and the like most of them with the same body kits, parts, headlights, tail lights.

Same shat Different Pile IMO, I wouldnt want a 240 that everyone else can relate to, but I would love to mod my Versa that NOONE can relate to. Go for it bro, Red Devil, our opinion doesnt matter to people who are gung-ho about modding their rides, I could care less what anyone though about mine. One thing I like are Altezza Tail Lights, but I heard they had alot of problems with them not fitting, I dont see anyone here with them so why cant anyone get them and say they are different?


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