im trying to add power !!!!! please....

[manvan]

wow what a hater, i talked to that guy from fox racing w the turbo V and he said he spanked a 350, but any ways 1) we dont have the luxury of owning 2 new cars like your self. 2) maybe we just want a little more pep to our step when we get intakes and exhaust or what ever it is. and 3) i see more GT-R and fenders with vents on 350's then versas you tard, they dont even have fenders out. i really hate people that try to discourage peoples dreams and wants, especially when there rich ****s

[Versa350Z]

Not trying to discourage a person from "their dreams", but come on, the Versa is a 122 hp econo box, not a sports car.. you know, I could go out and buy a Honda Civic for $18 k new, put another $15 k in improvements and have a car that can pretty much spank most everything out there sold stock.. But I chose to buy a 350Z and have all that power + warranty to cover it + a REAL sports car.. not some sooped up ricer.

If you want a cheap way of improving HP and sound on the Versa, just buy a CAI for it.. just stay away from the GT stickers.. they add drag to the car

wow what a hater, i talked to that guy from fox racing w the turbo V and he said he spanked a 350, but any ways 1) we dont have the luxury of owning 2 new cars like your self. 2) maybe we just want a little more pep to our step when we get intakes and exhaust or what ever it is. and 3) i see more GT-R and fenders with vents on 350's then versas you tard, they dont even have fenders out. i really hate people that try to discourage peoples dreams and wants, especially when there rich ****s

[rafa2210]

im not trying to increase the horsepower to 300+ in the versa. i just want it to have more power that other 1.8 cars and since its a small car, i want good acceleration..... I dont have 30000$ to buy a fast-sport car... otherwise i would have it... but i would still want it to be faster than the otherones of its class....just my personality.... although, i have to say that i wouldnt buy a 350z cuz it only has 2 seats :s i have family and friends.... i understand u can afford two cars!! i cant :s ... CAI and exhaust are two things almost everyone has, thats why i wanted something extra.. not wings! just one more step

OH!!! about warranty, i have had big issues with my V and the general mgr of Universal Nissan (where i bought it) told me on my face that they're not responsible for the cars after they sell them.... and nissan corporation said they were sorry but there was nothing they could do..... so no one responded to the cluking noise or the damages caused by the axel falling off twice!!!! what warranty is it that i should worry about?

[Versa350Z]

CAI and exhaust prolly net you 25+ HP but add a sound to the car that makes it seem more powerful then it really is.

As for speed, I find myself spinning the tires in the Versa from time to time, thinking im driving my 350Z... to me, the Versa seems to have good pickup for a small engine.. fuel economy is good too..

overall, i'm very pleased with the Versa and it's much more commuter/travel friendly than my 350Z, which is one reason I bought it.

[Bubs daddy]

Quote »i really hate people that try to discourage peoples dreams and wants[/quote]Anyone can dream all they want to. Look, we're going to give people advice when they ask for it. Hey, if you want a story with a fairy tale ending, I can say anthing you want. But I'm going to be realistic and the fact is, the Versa is an econobox, no more, no less.

Someone wants to put on an exhaust and airbox, that's great. I'm sure we don't have enough cars that sound like angry hornets.

Anything can be done to any car if you spend enough money. There are Vegas with V-8's in them. Wasn't cheap to get them running right after the frame, transmission, drivetrain, axles, and assorted welding, bracing and bolting.

Personally, there's an entry version of the 2010 Camaro being released in March. 300 bhp from a V-6 that gets 26 mph on the highway. 14.5 1/4 mile. Sounds peppy enough for me.

But then , the Versa's peppy enough for me.

Not bad for estimated $22,500.

[mightyversa]

Well, I guess I will try to simple it all up in one post on ways of getting our Versa's to go faster or add Horsepower (With available parts today)

1. Install a Cold Air Intake, not a Short Ram since Short Ram takes less dense air from the heated engine bay. Cold Air is meant to be long and extend to the part of the car in which heat is not present. In our Versa's, most likely place is in front of the front left tire behind the wheel shroud. Thats where my Fujita Intake is located, and thats a proper place for them. Although in order to install it you need to take off the front bumper, only took me 1 hour to take off and install everything necessary to put the Fujita Intake on. Oh, and try to drive in colder climates, the colder the air and the more volume of air, the more dense and the more oxygen and hydrogen. It must be hard in the lower 48 states, always warm isnt it?

2. Bore out the Throttle Body, bigger the diameter the more air flow. Unless it is already bored out to the max, but I dont know, I never sized it up.

3. Always do your scheduled oil changes, it saves on engine life and keeps your engine running at peak performance. Also your transmission filters, gotta get the power to the wheels!

4. If they made a hedder for the Versa, install that and a hedder back exhaust, making sure the hedder and rest of the exhaust components can fit the sensors.

5. Lighten up the car, install a carbon fibre hood and hatch, take out non essential parts in your car like seats, trim, spare tire and tools. But then its not much of a car, just a fast hollow unibody.

6. Dont turn on your Air conditioning, that uses a couple horsepower, beileve it!

7. Lowering your car apparently reduces drag, but I think it affects top speed, I am not 100% sure, correct me if I am wrong. But I guess that depends on the drag ratio your vehicle already has.

I guess if anyone has anything else to add, thats pretty much alot of things that can be done with a decent price tag, but im sure like everyone else said, in a couple years, they will have bigger bore throttle bodies, intake manifolds, hedder, and then I guess you will have to upgrade engine internals, to take a turbo and nitrous. Other than that, Engine swap would have to take place. Thanks for reading!

[rafa2210]

THANK YOU!!!! Thats what i was looking for.... advice of parts i can change and what difference they make..... thanks very much.... question. where is the transmition's filter? how often do change that?

[Sentientbydesign]

THANK YOU!!!! Thats what i was looking for.... advice of parts i can change and what difference they make..... thanks very much.... question. where is the transmition's filter? how often do change that?

Mightyversa gave you some poor information. Most of those things can be done to a car designed for moderate performance or an actual performance car.

I would personally say that 50% of those items will either never be made or will actually decrease usable performance.

A long-ram intake ("True CAI") may increase peak HP but it usually does so at the cost of throttle response and midrange power (you normally don't drive at redline all day long).

A better option would be a short-ram with heatshielding that drew air from the front of the car. This design is much more difficult to construct, but yields better results too.

Boring out the throttle body? The design of the engine was not for high HP or massive torque. Freeing up intake and exhaust obstructions can definitely help release parasitic losses, but I highly doubt that the Versa suffers from suffication via the throttle.

Fluids might actually be one of the best suggestions on here. Synthetic lubricant have been shown to release power that is lost due to friction. Look into something like royal purple or amsoil. I don't think the transmission filter is replaceable. It's usually a metal screen that collects metal shavings.

When they drop the transmission pan and clean your filter, that's when it gets serviced.

Weight reduction will definitely help. Rotating mass will have the most useful improvement. Things like accessory pullies, wheels, tires usually have lighter alternatives that will make acceleration better.

Going with heavy 17" rims was probably one of your worst decisions (I'm assuming you went with something affordable and that looked cool. A 16" or 17" gramlight would have yielded much better benefits. Different tires also weight differing amounts for the same given size.

Also, lowering the vehicle should improve both your fuel economy AND top end speed. The limitation on top end speed usually comes from drivetrain friction and aerodynamic drag. Reduce either and you should improve your top end speed.

But realistically, when are you going to be driving 120+?

[mightyversa]

Not to be a d!ck or anything, but did you take the Automotive Service Technician Course to? Or do you get all your information from reading brochures?

Some little tidbits that are true, and believe it!

Short Rams make less power OVERALL!

The parts I listed was never made for a Civic or Cavalier at one point either!(And why not make them, my Versa takes all the Civic's around my part of the world, except for the new SI's, but you cant complain about 197 HP under their hood, it was put their for a reason)

The more air you can get into your engine the better, no matter how, I think in order to say our Versa's restriction is not through the throttle should be left to the Nissan Engineer's to decide.

Aerodynamic drag, reduce it on a Versa, the thing is larger than a Dodge Calibre, I think redicing aerodynamic drag is useless, unless you redesign the body. But that's kinda out of the question right now.

All in all, I was just TRYING to help the kid, I am not no expert on Nissan Vehicles, and I think as the months go by, if there is a demand for these items, they will be made, and hope the god they are. But what you really got to consider is the amount of tuners that are going to buy a Versa? the more people that can buy it, the more potential for companies to make money through performance parts, thats the way the world works and will always work, and that everyone can agree on.

[Sentientbydesign]

Not to be a d!ck or anything, but did you take the Automotive Service Technician Course to? Or do you get all your information from reading brochures?

Some little tidbits that are true, and believe it!

Short Rams make less power OVERALL!

The parts I listed was never made for a Civic or Cavalier at one point either!(And why not make them, my Versa takes all the Civic's around my part of the world, except for the new SI's, but you cant complain about 197 HP under their hood, it was put their for a reason)

The more air you can get into your engine the better, no matter how, I think in order to say our Versa's restriction is not through the throttle should be left to the Nissan Engineer's to decide.

Aerodynamic drag, reduce it on a Versa, the thing is larger than a Dodge Calibre, I think redicing aerodynamic drag is useless, unless you redesign the body. But that's kinda out of the question right now.

All in all, I was just TRYING to help the kid, I am not no expert on Nissan Vehicles, and I think as the months go by, if there is a demand for these items, they will be made, and hope the god they are. But what you really got to consider is the amount of tuners that are going to buy a Versa? the more people that can buy it, the more potential for companies to make money through performance parts, thats the way the world works and will always work, and that everyone can agree on.

Let's get a few things straight. First of all, if you look at that little number in my profile. It says that I have close to 5000 posts on NICO. Second, I am an articles manager here on NICO which means I see most of the how to articles and also write a few myself.

Where do you get off saying that short rams make less power? I never said a WAI. That should under most circumstances make less power. There are exceptions to that too. WAIs have the potential to make more power than a CAI in very cold weather where IATs are on the lower extreme and do not produce optimal combustion.

Here are two dyno sheets from a 350z. One is with a JWT Pop-charger. It's basically a short-ram with heat shielding. The other is a traditional long-ram.





The other aspect that a dyno run doesn't consider is the low pressure that usually exists in the wheel well and the higher pressure that exist around the grill and hood of the car.

This is speculation, but in my opinion a Header-back exhaust might yield 10 hp. Add on another 5 from an intake and you're at 15 PEAK HP.

That's using "ricer math". So total output might be improved by 10-12%.

I may not be a master tech, but I've been around the modding scene long enough to know what's worth it and what's just a joke.

[mightyversa]

Ok, fair argument, but what stops one dyno from having a colder temperature than the other, which one has worn piston rings than the other, there are more factors that can affect horsepower gains, but its not worth fighting over on CAI and SRI, different models of all cars have different outcomes, and I realized that just now, every model has different outcomes and it depends on location and mod types. Lets just say that anything is possible for the Versa and in years to come, we will see where it goes and hope that we can have our fun with our cars, truse? Thanks

[Versa350Z]

I just think people should realize that the Versa is a 122hp tin can, not made to run 5 seconds from 0-60..

[rafa2210]

I just think people should realize that the Versa is a 122hp tin can, not made to run 5 seconds from 0-60..

I do know that the versa is not a fast car, and that it will never be a sport car or a racing car... im just trying to make it a lil better or not as bad... I dont like my V , since i bought it,. ... its a long story why i bought it.... and i dont have money to replace it with a sport V6 car... I am just trying to get myself to like the car at least a lil,.... the rims (17" aluminium) helped me , i did lower it (tanabe), and i have an audio system (very heavy btw lmao)....

I appreciate all of the advice from all of you..... really... imma buy the fujita right now cuz its cheaper,... im just gonna by a muffler and remove all the silencers (dont have money for an exhaust system )

[Versa350Z]

I think getting the rims will make a nice difference to the car.. as long as they are tasteful.. audio system definitely a plus too.. make it your own car, enjoy it

I do know that the versa is not a fast car, and that it will never be a sport car or a racing car... im just trying to make it a lil better or not as bad... I dont like my V , since i bought it,. ... its a long story why i bought it.... and i dont have money to replace it with a sport V6 car... I am just trying to get myself to like the car at least a lil,.... the rims (17" aluminium) helped me , i did lower it (tanabe), and i have an audio system (very heavy btw lmao)....

I appreciate all of the advice from all of you..... really... imma buy the fujita right now cuz its cheaper,... im just gonna by a muffler and remove all the silencers (dont have money for an exhaust system )

[rafa2210]

i dont think they look bad.. i'll post some pics next week, probably wednesday so i can get a opinion

[mightyversa]

We all, overtime, get sick of seeing the same vehicle parked in our driveways day in and day out, eventually we would like to just jump off the map and do our own things. So what if its not a ten second car, I knew that to begin with, but whether you have a Civic, Cavalier, Cobalt, Sunfire, or whatever, there are aftermarket parts for them and its inevitably up to the owner on what he/she wants to do with their ride, whether it be performance robbing or performance tuning. I love the new 370Z coming out next year, what are your thoughts on that mr 350?

[Versa350Z]

I don't like the headlights on the new Z.. other then that, it ok. I'll probably upgrade to a 370 in 3-4 years after i've paid on my Z more

We all, overtime, get sick of seeing the same vehicle parked in our driveways day in and day out, eventually we would like to just jump off the map and do our own things. So what if its not a ten second car, I knew that to begin with, but whether you have a Civic, Cavalier, Cobalt, Sunfire, or whatever, there are aftermarket parts for them and its inevitably up to the owner on what he/she wants to do with their ride, whether it be performance robbing or performance tuning. I love the new 370Z coming out next year, what are your thoughts on that mr 350?

[BWG]

I knew this topic would be hillarious. I just joined today and I thought the same thing everyone does.

"I wish my Versa was faster"

I swear. If you make this car faster you are going to blow it up! The day I drove up the hills in WV and hit 6000rpm trying to maintain 70 mph was the day I said it just is not going to happen..

But, making it lighter sounds like the best option I have heard so far. A huge engine mod and turbo someday would work but by the time you do it you might as well have bought another car!

[Sentientbydesign]

Trying to make the versa fast is like trying to take Kraft EZ mac and make it gourmet.

[raventare]

I just read an article in Car and Driver about the HKS Fit Sport. In the article after spending a total of $27K (including the original car price) this "company" was able to knock .4 seconds off the 0 to 60 time...that was four tenths of a second for only $9000 dollars I am positive for only $10,000 more they could knock off another five tenths and make it almost a full second . It also gave it 24 MPG

The point I am trying to make is that we CAN make our cars faster but it WILL cost some...what you DON'T want to do is go the other way by putting heavy weights on the car, especially if they rotate, or don't do anything. (stock steel wheels weigh 19 lbs (bet the stock cast wheels weigh more) and any wheel that weighs more will slow you down and suck gas...)

We need people to post products that take weight off without compromising the rest of the cars attributes, so here is my first offering

Enkei RFP1 wheels 15X6.5 10lbsMotegi Tracklite wheels 15X 6.5 10lbs

We also need manufacturers to make more products for us. If someone thinks of a product that could be helpful like lightweight pulleys or lightweight flywheels then post it for all to know with a manufacturer and then the rest of us can ALL email that manufacturer (even if you don't want it at that time) and ask for that part...when the company gets a request from 100's of people all over the world, it will make it more reasonable to create and we all get the benefit.

Now all we need is a website "manager" that could set that up

So much for my 4 cents (pennies cost 2 cents to make)

[VersaMG08]

I've noticed a lot of guys on the fitfreak forums try too hard to make their Fit's faster than stock and end up spending too much money on them for little results. Please, we do not want to be like them! I learned my lesson doing that to my old '98 Civic. Heheh

[Vahagn23]

it aint gonna happen, save the headache of a broken car. Just go sell it and add the money you would spend on moding it and buy a faster car. Like an Altima

[Red Devil]

Trying to make the versa fast is like trying to take Kraft EZ mac and make it gourmet.

Perfect

[lovesaga]

I suggest tires that grip better.Lowering weight of car. Carbon fiber hood/hatch. Race/performance Rims.Getting a buddy to write a program for you car instead of a fake chip. Underdrive Pulley kit.

[superskunk]

yeah but then again the fit is able to house the K20... thats a big improvement on its own... and we need to work on a crazy swap too... so get crack'n...

[Skim302]

I don't think that anyone on this forum wants THEIR v to be too much faster because if you think about it the V is a fat ***. If you take out all of the stuff you don't need (seats, radio, a/c, carpet) you would have a lighter V which in turn would technically be a "faster" v. And if you weren't too short on money you could put a carbon fiber hood and hatch on aswell as new rims to lighten it up as much as possible. The versa acctaully has too much power for what is really supposed to be used for which is an econobox, but because of the power to weight ratio that power is NOT seen at all.

I mean thats just my suggestion lol.

[Sentientbydesign]

I'm not even sure why I'm still contributing to this but here goes:

I would suspect that rebuilding the engine for speed could be done. Possibly modifying compression and using stronger valves and valve springs for a higher redline. This might squeeze another 10 or 20 hp (complete speculation).

The car is a little on the heavy side too. My wife's celica weighs 200lbs less and has 15 more peak hp than the V. The 1.8L 1ZZFE has a similar displacement and peak torque, but it revs higher and utilizes VVT-i.

If I had a V and wanted to make it faster and more agile, I'd look into reducing weight AND stiffening the chassis.

Maybe FI too for the hell of it.

It's not that the car can't be fast. It's that the car is a poor platform to build on. Hopefully the OP and all of the "Super V" supporters will understand that.

[zratedversa1]

make the car really stiff. the handling will give the illusion of speed.lol

or talk to zpi about a turbo kit. lol

[Red Devil]

It's not that the car can't be fast. It's that the car is a poor platform to build on. Hopefully the OP and all of the "Super V" supporters will understand that.

I wouldn't bet on that.

[9Blazin]

try a wet 55shot nitrous kit! I haven't been on in awhile, but i've had a zex wet kit on my versa since October and absolutely luv suckin' up civics and integras. It wasn't too bad to install a little custom work with me and my boy, but there is a difference. Not in the power of 350Z or STI's but the car is a lot more fun to drive and my friends love it when the Versa sucks other ricers up!