Im so sick of the SR!!!

Post by **Phax** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

I have an SR20DET and I like it a lot. Yet reading this thread has just made me feel rather stupid. To the point where if it were possible, I'd consider selling the SR20 to some guy and taking the money to build a KA-T.

Though at this point, that would just be going backwards. Oh well, live and learn as they say.

Post by **Silent Drifter** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

Im not dissing the SR, Im just sick of ppl who think just cause I have a 240 I should get the SR. The SR is a good engine just IMO I rather have a KA-t.

Post by **Structure240sx** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

yea after im done with my s14 im buyin an s13 to put an sr in. i was set on a couple but a convertable with a silvia front end and SR with a 5spd swap would be sweet

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

Phax wrote:I have an SR20DET and I like it a lot. Yet reading this thread has just made me feel rather stupid. To the point where if it were possible, I'd consider selling the SR20 to some guy and taking the money to build a KA-T.

Though at this point, that would just be going backwards. Oh well, live and learn as they say.

yea most def do not go back to the KA, im sure u have spent alot of money and time getting and installing the SR. its a great engine, its just that alot of us are fed up with how all the magazines make it sound like the SR is the only way to go fast and people who dont research the other engines are ignorant to the fact that there are alot of options for a 240.

Post by **Silent Drifter** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

that would look *****in sick, post pics when ur done.

Post by **Structure240sx** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

r u talkin about my future plans silent drifter? if u r of course i will have pics up but it prob wont be started until next summer. i have to get my KAT into the low 12's til ill be happy

Post by **StanBo** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

I am going KA-T because I want to be able to have spare blocks for when stupid stuff breaks.

I am trying to get a picture of it but I blew up an endtank on my stock radiator at the local drift event. I was out on the course for 10mins or so and it blew up when I parked it and it was running at idle.

I have a bunch of friends going SR and I am just going to stockpile their engines.

I am done (pretty close) with the rest of the car and I need a turbo to grow now.

I like SRs. I drove one and it felt like my civic motor but had balls at the end. It revved like crazy and was fun to drive.

I have not driven a turbo KA but I hope to get the same results.

Post by **Silent Drifter** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

Yea I was talkin bout your future plans Structure.

Post by **Structure240sx** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

yea im still debating but the convertable is lookin kinda good as long as i keep the top down when ever i drive it, but thats not for a while i got plenty to do with my s14 still

Post by **gani** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

o.k i get this is a Ka-t forum but i just had to come and runt my thoughts . first its that if you have never driven a CA or Sr equipped car you should not even comment here. im from Africa where we get all the JDM cars (as you call them) as standard and i mean silvia and 180sx`s with ca and sr`s try and live in a place where evo`s are sprolling starletGT`s , big subaru legacy turbos and now fast forward to me now ariving here in the states only to find a 180sx equiped with that god forsaken engine you call a KA so enough said. i did my swap within the first month of buying my 180 oh sorry 240.

Post by **Nathan** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

Ahhh, but did you even give a KAT a try? If not...you limited yourself

Post by **erich** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

I've driven both. I'll take the KA over the SR any day.

Post by **bbandit** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

i've driven an SRbut i've never driven KA-Tand im going KA-Tso i cant say anything

Post by **cnichols** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

gani wrote:o.k i get this is a Ka-t forum but i just had to come and runt my thoughts . first its that if you have never driven a CA or Sr equipped car you should not even comment here.

Seeing that this is the KA forum, YOU should not even comment here if you've never driven a KA-T. If you want to talk bad about the KA's N/A performance, fine, but compare it to the SR's N/A performance, not a turbo'd SR. Last time I checked, the KA puts out more HP and TQ naturally aspirated.

And, why are we dissing Nissan motors in the first place. This thread was not started to compare motors gani, but simply to complain about all the idiots out there who automatically assume the SR is superior and that your setup cannot be as good if you don't have the SR. I'll put my KA-T up against your SR any day.

Post by **gani** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

i get the argument i just wanted to show you where my thoughts are coming from as in back home we didnt have all this crazy hype going coz we got a selection of high performance cars that arenot in production in the states. so yeah it does piss me off when all this guys come up like they know what they are talking about but all they got in their heads is from magazines that are obviously biased towards a certain motor. anyway it all upto the individual you want to make 600 with a KA good for you and good luck atleast youll be the first to do this well for me i m just used to the CA n SR

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

first person to make 600 in a KA? i think not there was a post on the FA forums of a guy that made 504 rwhp on his shake down run. no tuning and he wasnt done modding. that was a couple months ago so im sure hes up to the 600 mark.

Post by **Silent Drifter** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

gani wrote:ianyway it all upto the individual you want to make 600 with a KA good for you and good luck atleast youll be the first to do this well for me i m just used to the CA n SR

Who said anything about makin 600hp???? An how many ppl with an SR make 600???? Its not a common goal for dailey drivers which 95% are. So hp has nothing to do with this thread.

Post by **HolyShiznit** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

I dunno about 600 HP.... but a 275-350ish WHP KA-T would be dope. Especially becaues we have FLAT TORQUE CURVES. Ya know we don't have to wait till 5grand to get our power.

And before anyoen says anything I have driven an SR car.

Post by **Structure240sx** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

yea waitin until 3k on my kat was enough turbo lag for me. waiting until at least 4k with an sr would suck a lil. although like i said before im goin to do an sr swap in a year

Post by **gani** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

i give my respects to all you guys coz youre doing things with that motor that the highly paid engineers in nissan couldnt percieve so to all you KA-T owners meet you at the road toward more horse power..............

Post by **cnichols** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

Well said.

Post by **McAdam** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

I'll pitch in my 2 cents here, not that its worth much... (pad pun)

I am sure the SR is fine. its just not the all conquering motor that the magazines make it out to be. I'll admit I was looking at an SR swap for a while, but I canned the idea after getting a 1993 SE-R (for sale, by the way). I liked driving my 1988 pulsar with teh CA18DE much more than the SR. Its a nice motor and all, its just stuck in the middle. stuck between a KA and a CA. its got more low end torque than a ca, but not nearly as much as a KA. It likes to rev more than the KA but not nearly as much as a CA. Its a good compromise motor.

thats why I am buillding my CA19DET with a VNT turbo. that and I have a love for frankensteining stuff. my next project will probably be a KA22DET. KADE head on a Z20E block with a big bore and fully counterweighted shoret stroke crank. should be fun. I'll stick a T3/T04E on it for fun.

McAdam

Post by **cnichols** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

Definitely keep me updated on the KA frankenstein....I've always wanted to do something similar and think that a KA22 or KA23 would be an amazing motor.

I was thinking about getting a custom crank that shortened the stroke to 90mm and make the bore 90mm as well for a perfectly square motor. I would assume that it would rev to 7500 fairly easy and would be a KA23.

Wasn't there a huge thread on FreshAlloy about doing something similar to your plan, but they kept finding out nothing would work?

Post by **Silent Drifter** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

Just to remind you this thread is not to compare motors. Its stating the fact the just because I own a 240 doesnt mean I want to do a SR swap.

Post by **cnichols** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

Remind who? I already explained earlier that the thread wasn't about comparing motors. McAdam and I got sidetracked talking about building Frankenstein KAs...we're not comparing motors, but I apologize for hijacking.

Post by **Silent Drifter** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

haha sorry thats alright ive been known to hijack from time to time.

Post by **MN31323** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

If i had to pick i would definetely go with a KA24DET for drag racing and maybe even for drifting and daily driving. Reason being:Torque. Oh and the fact that they are more resistant to ping because of the quench(?) area. And you can use 93 octane with higher boost than an SR.However. I like the SR more as an all around motor. A good point was made when it was said that it's a compromise motor and i like the compromises that it makes.

Post by **F4ucc** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

Well, KA SR or CA. it's more a personal taste.

Though, I wish that we got 240SXs with either CA18DET or SR20DET motors straight from Factory instead of Crappy NA KA24DE or E though.

later

Post by **Silent Drifter** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

How you gonna call the KA crappy??? The block is made for boost. Just change out the pistons an your good to go. Plus theres alot of potential for it.

Post by **Xero** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm

he was comparing N/A to turbo, he wishes we didn't have to deal with the fact that we have to ADD a turbo, he wishes ti would have come like that from the factory,

Im so sick of the SR!!!

So SAD

Re: So SAD

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