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Pardon me... Camel!! If you wouldn't mind, could you PLEASE PM me, or email ([email protected]) about help with a wiring/audio (possibly) problem I have in my 89? I think I'm experiencing some sort of cross up that is blacking my dash lights out, but I'm in need of some help. Thanks :)


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The fuses are in the kick panel on the drivers side. I would suggest that you get your dad or a friend's dad with some marginal car experience to help you. If you don't know where the fuse box is on your car, you are going to need some guidance. Especially with the radio wiring. (NO DISRESPECT INTENDED AT ALL.) You are just new to the game. Print off this post and have someone that can help you with the car read it. That will probably help you the most.

skazzi - you probably have something mis-wired to the dimmer circuit. If you use a test light on the wired behind the radio. you can check for the dimmer circuit by checking each wire(theres only like 11 or so) run the dimmer up and down, when you hit the dimmer circuit it will dim the test light the same as the dash lights. more than likely it is wired to your radio ground wire. most new stereos don't have a dimmer circuit on them so you can cap the wire off and hide it. it has no use other than to screw up your dash lights.

and good hijack btw....hehehe...

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I tried..hehe. :) Thank you very much, will give that a shot.

Well... I seriously don't want to hijack but it is stereo related.

edit: My stereo is an Alpine and does have a dimmer setting. Is this just something I'm going to have to sacrifice in order to SEE THE LIGHT!?

When I've tested the wires at the switch it appears there is only power in the two red wires and not elsewhere (assuming the two black are ground??). When I've jumped wires at the switch (can't recall which) the lights will come on. They're ALIVE! But of course I can't use that as a solution, I'm not Minny Mouse. :)

Thanks Camel

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dak2007, u should invest in these intelligent fuses that light up when they are blown. theyre great, and they actually light up haha. but theyre a little more pricier than your regular 10A fuses

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Hehe I can see it now:

LED FUSES in someone's mod list.

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I suppose it is a type of mod...

skazzi - did your problem start happening when you put in the stereo? also, eliminate your variables, pull the stereo loose and check your dimmer again. if it works without the stereo attached, cut the dimmer lead. theoretically you could relay off of the parking lights to create a new lighting circuit for use with the radio dimming function. you must have a seriously old apline to have a dimming circuit. my 7930 that is 6 years old didn't have one. and it was top of the line.

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The Alpine I just bought has a dimmer line and it works fine in my 96. Not sure if its variable or open/close, it only dims the button lighting though, the display is unaffected.

cda9807 is the one i have.

Hope this doesnt hijack too much.

-Slip

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i'll look into those light up fuses

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Got to find the fuse box first...........(Sorry, that was a little too easy of a target. :smile)

slip- wasn't aware they started doing that again, i have been out of the business for a while.

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Camel - I was surprised to see that wire as well, although I probably would have left it disconnected if I had known how little effect it was going to have :)

Dak - Did you find the offending fuse?

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camel > When I purchased the car, the stereo (a sony) was not connected, the dash lights were not on and I was told by the seller that they would be when it was hooked up. So I'm not sure if this had been a lasting problem or if it's just my deck.

My current deck (CDA7844), was installed in store, not by myself. I do have the deck instructions for install that I can work from and will print out your suggestions here and have a go after work. The dimmer would only dim the display on the deck and also changes from Alpine Green to Red. Oh Joy!

Theoretically, sounds not so difficult but I'm not an electrician. lol.

Technically, I'm not sure this is a hijack anymore... the original question was answered & solved. :) I'm learning lots from this thread, thanks guys (and girls, if there are some :) )

edit: Hey, hey. Here are the specs for the Alpine CDA-7844http://www.ifb.pl/~mateo/car-a...l.pdf

Ummm...now somebody translate that please. :P

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ok i found the fuse it's not blown. my clock, seatbelts, etc. still don't work. i have tried using the wire diagrams ppl have posted and still no luck hooking up my cd player. i'm starting to think i'm going to have to take it somewhere. i realy dislike the guy i got the car from for taking out the factory wiring harness.

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did you check ALL the fuses with a test light to be sure? this is not the fuse marked radio that we are talking about. you need to check the ones in the kick and the ones under the hood. everything except for ones that say srs or airbag or are wrapped with yellow tape (but you shouldn't have any of those at all)

You can have a bad contact without having a blown fuse. it is best to test them in the slot. on both sides of the fuse with the ign off. go to autozone and get a 12v test light, it will be a good five dollar investment into your toolbox.

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ok i'll try that

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skazzi - the dash lights are not dependant on the stereo, the stereo is dependant on the dash lights. get the dash lights working before you try to mess with the dimmer on the radio. i would disconnect it from the radio altogether and try to trace your problem, starting with checking dimmer lead operation with a test light or volt meter at the radio harness, then i i would check the dimmer lead in another harness that should be lighting up on the dash. take two aspirin and call me in the morning. hehehe. seriously, check those to things and let me know. you should see voltage (light) that varys with the dimmer switch; from the radio harness. if you don't, you need to start checking fuses.

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skazzi - what do you need to know about that diagram specifically. and also do you want to buy a 12 disc changer that will work with that head unit? I have one in my garage.

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ok checked the fuses and my lighter and radio don't light up

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And i also have the AI eq (era-g320) for sale also.

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so if i change the fuse my radio should be working?

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can someone post so i can try to fix this i only have like another hour of sunlight

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ok changed the fuse nothing happend i think where the fuse plugs in is bad how do i fix that

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[quote=" Camel You can have a bad contact without having a blown fuse...[/quote]

This was a problem I had in my old Nissan. It was a royal pain in the behind! My stereo used to cut in and out constantly as the fuse bounced around loose. It was the same fuse as the interior dome light in my car.

edit: If my problem is the same as yours, I either tried pulling the contacts in the fuse box toward the center, or added solder to the fuse so that it fit tighter. ????

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is there any other way to fix it

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Camel. Thanks so much some more. :) 15 minutes I'm off of work and will play with the car. Will let you know the progress. It's too bad that so called professional installers can't wire these things correctly. Little ol me with the help from people in another country have to try and do the dirty work. Tis annoying.

Ummm. I'm a tad bit strapped for cash post xmas, car accident and new, old car problems. lol. I'm interested though. Could you please PM me what you're looking to get for it? Or them, not so sure I could handle the EQ. =o) or email please, [email protected]

Thanks.

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twist one of the fuse legs with a pair of pliers and shove it in there. don't twist it too far tho, just abou 10 degrees

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not like they are going anywhere. 225 for the eq if my buddy doesn't want it and 150 for the changer. the eq is the mac tho. time alignment and everything.

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dak, it is not going to be the radio fuse, that is ign powered. if you turn on the ign then check that fuse it will work. you need to find the dome light fuse. that is the one that is most likely blown. it has constant 12v to it even when the iign is off. be sure to check both sides while it is in the slot to be sure. if that aint it, we have some more searching to do.

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where is the dome light fuse located under the hood or kick pannel

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i think it is in the kick panel in an s13, check the cover plate for a diagram of all the fuses. however, it may be under the hood beside the battery.

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dak, hit me up on msn im if you want. where are you located?

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