i need advice opna twin t25/28 vh45de s14

[tylerd10230]

would it be possible to run topmount turbo setup on each side of a vh45de in a s14 with a t25/28 turbo on each side. if possible who could make a manifold and downpipe for that to work . i am very interested and i am trying to get feedback on peoples opinions becouse it would be a very sick setup to run. thankyou let me know what you think

[car nut]

Honestly, think of a different combination. Everything you just listed needs to be custom made.

[tylerd10230]

yea i am not worried about if it needs o be custom made or not i just want to see if it is even possible becouse if it is i wouldnt mind doing it . i am sure i can run them in front of the engine and that would have to be custom made too but i just wanna see if there is enough space for me to do that or what i would have to do to put a turbo in the front and then prob run 1 t70 . i just want opinions becouse this is a hard swap as it is and a tight fit but it would be a sick setup

[spooled240]

what do you mean "is it possible"? Anything is possible, but it may take some brains and some custom work.

This would probably work pretty well but since it is a 4.5L you may want to use the t-28's at least, considering the z32 folks upgrade their 3.0L VG's from the small t-25's for waaay more power

[tylerd10230]

i just want advice bassicly on how to run it and if possible the maf setup for it if i just run 1 t70 or 2 t25's and perhaps tune or if it is possible does anyone make the manifold and downpipe setup for aa single tubro vh45 in a s14 s240sx

[tylerd10230]

yea i no anything is possible but i want to know is there enough space lol. im not worried about the space at all

[Chris28]

i want to know is there enough space lol. im not worried about the space at all

What?

It's going to be a tight fit. All the piping, as well as the engine being fairly large is going to be quite complicated.

[car nut]

does anyone make the manifold and downpipe setup for aa single tubro vh45 in a s14 s240sx

Dude, nobody makes ANYTHING for the VH45. You can get an ECU and a transmission adapter (VH to Z32 5sp). Intake/exhaust would all be custom. Custom internals (can't run more then about 7lbs on pump gas). That's why my first post said what it said.

If you really want a VH45, supercharge it. Much less custom fabrication. Otherwise, RB, LSX, etc. etc. Those would both be less work and much better support.

[heartofaskyline]

what a waste. go singe 88mm and figure out what fast is

[tylerd10230]

yea i already know that noone makes anything for a the vh swap but mazworx. lol i no what the transmission adaptor is i already planned on doing that. i was trying to get opinions about the turbo setup lol. i could runa 88mm setup but i want a reliable dd/ trck warrior. i no its a tight fit and i already no alot about the vh engine. i only need opinions and maybe advice. and i dont think anyone even makes a supercharger for the vh . the only ones i have seen were custom. i no its all custom

[simmode1]

1)Are you sure you're gonna need turbos? VH is already pretty beastly in an s-chassis.2)T25/T28 are too small even for KA's. Consider a T3 hybrid or a holset HX353)You should have asked this question in the VH hybrid forum. It has decent traffic.4) Supercharged VH45 is where it's at...

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[kapetaJR]

Local guy up here as a vh45dett in his drift car, but he runs twin gt3076's IIRC

zerothread/211183

car running:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHLACXi3R4U

[tylerd10230]

yea i like that setup thats what i want my setup to look something like that. even though it is alot fo work but i want t28's or something becouse it has the boost and poull but not to much for a stock engine . i want like 3psi each and i dont need alot of power becouse it alreaDY HAS AROUND 300 STOCK IN A s chassis. i just want to sit in the low to mid 400's range on 6psi combined and it be reliable plus t28's are easy to spool and cheaper to come by

[car nut]

If you feel like building everything yourself (or paying lots of $$$ for someone else to), do it. Otherwise, pick another swap.

[tylerd10230]

yea i know everything has to be custom made. but i also want something reliable

[simmode1]

but i also want something reliable

Then this is not the project for you. A twin turbo VH45DE swapped into an s14 is not something that you should have to rely upon. It is a toy car.

It seems like your idea is not very well thought out. T2 flanged turbos are not well suited for that motor at all. They will only provide low end power and that's the last place you need more power with a V8. You need turbos that will handle the massive amount of air that 4.5L of displacement is moving through them and that will make top end power.

Go ask your question in the VH forum to talk to ppl with more experience with this motor.

[hbpignosePA]

if ur asking this many questions then no you specifically probably cant pull it off

and a v8 is more than enough power in an s13; y bother turboing it?

[tylerd10230]

wen i say reliable for dd and all i mean like to drive a good amount but its a toy. i dont want to build something that will break everyday. i already had a sr20 that broke about a week or so after i fixed it everytime and it was far from reliable. but what yall are all trying to say is i need to run turbo that has top end power. like a gt3076r or t70's . what would yall prefer and yea i know it is alot of work but i want power through the whole rpm range and have fun

[ZootedS13]

for the pirce your going to pay for the setup you want you could replace every seal, gasket and pump on an sr and make it reliable.

[simmode1]

. i already had a sr20 that broke about a week or so after i fixed it everytime and it was far from reliable.

You clearly didn't know WTF you were doing then. Can you imagine the condition most VH45DE's are in? Most are high mileage and will require a rebuild before you can even think about starting the swap. And then you've got a shyt-ton of fabricating and customizing to do.

Look, I'm not saying do it. I great it's a great idea. But I think you need to have a sober awareness of just how difficult this project would be. It's pretty high on the S-chassis swap difficulty scale.

Plus, I think you should research and reevaluate:-your power goals for the car-what you'll use the car for in relation to your powergoals-the merits of turbocharging vs supercharging in relation to what you'll use the car for.

[RustspecS13]

yea i like that setup thats what i want my setup to look something like that. even though it is alot fo work but i want t28's or something becouse it has the boost and poull but not to much for a stock engine . i want like 3psi each and i dont need alot of power becouse it alreaDY HAS AROUND 300 STOCK IN A s chassis. i just want to sit in the low to mid 400's range on 6psi combined and it be reliable plus t28's are easy to spool and cheaper to come by

If you think 3psi + 3psi = 6 then you have a lot more research to do.

Also the SR20 is a very simple motor being 4cyl and turbo OEM. Very common and a lot tuners know the engine. Big knowledge base. Yeah its old but lots of people to supply parts or advice.

Vh45 is not only a new option, but its uncommon, almost completely custom every thing will be one off. And in addition a v8 has more parts to go wrong, and then your adding two turbos to add more problems.

If you cant handle an SR swap, your going to want to either wait on this swap or prepare your self for it to take a very long time.

Good luck swapping~Alex

[ILoveMyRHS13]

why not a large remote rearmount turbo?

but yeah, you clearly are way over your head here dude....

back to the drawingboard

[tylerd10230]

o lol i forgot to mention i still have my sr20 and it is pretty reliable know on 12psi and all . alot better then before i just had so many problems with it like the cas and maf and turbo gaskets. etc. i was thinking about a REAR mount turbo setup but that would be alot fo intercoooler piping to have i was also thinking maybe make a custom turbo flange that can bolt up in plate of the cat. convertor after the headers end. would that would the only thing i am worried about it the height from the ground becouse i want to dump the car

[Dattebayo]

As if you could pull off a remote mount set-up. You barely seem to be able to communicate your ideas to us, let alone pull off the fab for a job such as this.

This is many, many hours of labor and not something your average 17 year old can handle. Stick with your current set-up, kid.

[tylerd10230]

yea

You clearly didn't know WTF you were doing then. Can you imagine the condition most VH45DE's are in? Most are high mileage and will require a rebuild before you can even think about starting the swap. And then you've got a shyt-ton of fabricating and customizing to do.

Look, I'm not saying do it. I great it's a great idea. But I think you need to have a sober awareness of just how difficult this project would be. It's pretty high on the S-chassis swap difficulty scale.

Plus, I think you should research and reevaluate:-your power goals for the car-what you'll use the car for in relation to your powergoals-the merits of turbocharging vs supercharging in relation to what you'll use the car for.

my power goals are just above stock . i already planned on regasketing the whole engine and prob bearings and def timing chain guides and all. then tune the car. they make everything u would need to do the swap for thos eof u that think it is all custom work. mazworx makes everything for it from the converions harness so its plug n play to the transmission conversion plate, driveshaft,mounts, headers, i just want to modify the headers................ for boost. plus there is many q45's around my area for cheap so im not worried about the price for the swap

[tylerd10230]

im not the average 17 year old kid............. lol i have connections with people for custom pieces. that why i want to no and a rear mount setup isnt to hard. with a exeption u have to make flanges for the turbos and then run intercooler piping to the front of the engine. i can pay someone to do the work if it comes down to it . i just want to no specs. i didnt make this for people to tell me what i cant do . i made this for informations and adive on placement. im getting tired of the sr and i want a v8 poiwerhouse in a s chassis as a dd/ toy becouse the sr is soon getting a built engine and a gt3071r turbo setup and im not trying to dd it wen i can get a vh and swap it into a 240 and maybe boost and find parts for it all day anyday

[Dattebayo]

i didnt make this for people to tell me what i cant do . i made this for informations and adive on placement. im getting tired of the sr and i want a v8 poiwerhouse in a s chassis as a dd/ toy becouse the sr is soon getting a built engine and a gt3071r turbo setup and im not trying to dd it wen i can get a vh and swap it into a 240 and maybe boost and find parts for it all day anyday

Right. So you have the thousands of dollars to do this (ahem) and the technical know-how to get all this done by yourself and get a standalone for it so it will run?

Pardon me if I say prove it. I will stand down if you can, but I'm skeptical.

[AZ89two4Tsx]

Why don't you try conquering the english language before you try conquering a twin-turbo VH45 swap.

Or maybe even finishing high-school.

[simmode1]

Ok guys... we've all voiced our opinions on the subject. How about now the OP go get started? And we'll see if it ever gets finished?

OP, don't talk about it... be about it.

[Dattebayo]

OP, don't talk about it... be about it.

^This.

I have a sneaking suspicion that he will have his bought and not built. In which case IDC.