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Well I guess they still have to work on it a little. The first crash was not as good as hey were hoping so. Check this website out. No airbag deployed. It will be pricey for Hyundai.

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/articles/013.shtml

Anybody is up for buying a Genesis coupe?



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I see two FAILS for Hyundai.

1) Faulty safety equipment.

2) So f$#king boring that you'd fall asleep while driving it

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LOL

No kidding.

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lol. time to check if the g's airbags deploy.

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zozoka1212 wrote:Anybody is up for buying a Genesis coupe?



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Nope, I'll pass! Love my G's!!!

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The X naughty is my favorite.

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Wow. How did they overlook this??

I'm probably the last person on the planet that would buy a Hyundai.

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you get what you pay for...

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joe603 wrote:you get what you pay for...
This is beginning to sound like a BMW forum. If I substitute "Infiniti" or "G37" for "Hyundai" or "Genesis" and "BMW" or "335i" for "Infiniti" or "G37", I would swear I was on a BMW forum.

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zozoka1212 wrote:Well I guess they still have to work on it a little. The first crash was not as good as hey were hoping so. Check this website out. No airbag deployed. It will be pricey for Hyundai.

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/articles/013.shtml

Anybody is up for buying a Genesis coupe?



zozo
I Don't think that is funny or something to laugh at; and even on the website, it states it can't verify the accuracy.


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Not sure where you get the impression I was laughing. I was not. Believe me. Lost my mother and father in accidents. Indeed it is a sad storry.

You are right about they can't verify if they were injured badly or not. But it is clear the airbags did not deploy. With this type of crash the chance is pretty good to get injured with no airbag.

That's why I put there if anybody is interested to buy one.

Hope this clears it.

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wow this must of not happened in the untied states... one of the few places where you can fall asleep at the wheel and sue the car company for injuries...

or spill hot coffee on your self.. and sue the restrurant for making too hot coffee...

still sad the air bags didnt deploy... yep i agree quality control must be an issue with hyundai. been seeing way better cars from them though... since the 2006 sonatta came out... actually test drove it... it was very roomy... and had all the features you can name on a bmw/infinity... their brand image is tainted though... maybe they should of let them selves get brought out (or made it look like it) so it looks like "new management"...

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How do you know this?

It is dated on Nov/6/2008. To me that is a production car in Korea and if you see that that was in Korea not in the STates. So they had nothing to do in Seema with that car.

To me that's what the picture shows.

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Heels1010 wrote:Ok so I guess you guys don't know the story behind this crash? First of all at the time the Genesis Coupe was not available and is still not available. This coupe was a project car that was given to some company. The car was wrecked shorty after they recieved it. This car was intended to be in a few shows including SEMA to promote the upcomming release of the car. There was no reason other than stupidity that the car was even on the road in the first place. And why are they posting it on a wrecked exotic site anyway. That is and never will be considered an exotic car.
Umm...that crash did not take place in the states....look at the building behind it - does that look like english to you?

I agree with the aforementioned comments on you get what you pay for...you want a "bargin" for your sports car? That's what you get - a cheap car. Sorry, Hyundai still is a low-tier auto maker that uses inferior parts and receives negative insurance scores for the low saftey and crappy builds. The only reason people buy them is for the warranty.

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notalk wrote:
This is beginning to sound like a BMW forum. If I substitute "Infiniti" or "G37" for "Hyundai" or "Genesis" and "BMW" or "335i" for "Infiniti" or "G37", I would swear I was on a BMW forum.
I would say something different for a quality car like a BMW. I would say that I wouldn't expect a car like that to fail in airbag deployment. However since we're talking about about Hyundai, I'm not as surprised.

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Heels1010 wrote:Ok so I guess you guys don't know the story behind this crash? First of all at the time the Genesis Coupe was not available and is still not available. This coupe was a project car that was given to some company. The car was wrecked shorty after they recieved it. This car was intended to be in a few shows including SEMA to promote the upcomming release of the car. There was no reason other than stupidity that the car was even on the road in the first place. And why are they posting it on a wrecked exotic site anyway. That is and never will be considered an exotic car.
It looks to me the car is in Korea. I lived there for a year so I think I can make that call, by the Korean writing on everything. Plus the tags on the cars look like what I remember the tags looking like.

There may not be safety laws there that require the vech. to have aibags. So that would explain the lack of deployment.

If you looked on wreckedexotics, there is a section for "bad wrecks" that has all different types of vechs in it.

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I loved how he came here and told us we don't know jack about the story behind it. I guess he knew even less.

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joe603 wrote:
I would say something different for a quality car like a BMW. I would say that I wouldn't expect a car like that to fail in airbag deployment. However since we're talking about about Hyundai, I'm not as surprised.
I think you missed my point. There seems to be an unlimited number of posts of BMW forums where BMW owners view Infinitis like you all are viewing Hyundai. In other words, people here are talking about Hyundais just like BMW owners talk about Infinitis.

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Damn good observation, so what is your point.

I'm happy bashing Hyundais until you're blue in the face, makes no difference to me.

It's about Pride of ownership. We here are proud of our Nissan/Datsun/Infinities.

I understand why bmw owners are proud, same as we are proud right? My friend owns an M3, and has gone to the BMW school of racing. He doesn't hold any grudge on me for my G, and I would no sooner hate on him for his M3.

But I think you need to keep things lighthearted on the forums, this is just a discussion.

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And I'm sure the Hyundai forums talk trash about Scions and the Scion forums talk trash about VW's and so on and so forth. What good is having something nice, if you don't have something lesser to compare it to? It reminds me of an episode of "Cops" I was watching this weekend... some prostitute told the cop that she was a Ho, but not a Crack Ho! Everybody is better than somebody else in the world... that's the American way!We're all just proud of our cars here... I'm sure we mean well!

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G35/37 owners seem to get really sick of BMW owners looking down at their noses at us. G35/37 owners seem to think BMW owners are bad/wrong/snobbish, etc for trashing our G's. Yet, a number of G owners are engaged in the same behavior these same G owners dislike when done to them by BMW owners.

I guess my point is, if you don't like it being done to you, then don't do it to others.

P.S. If you truly believe "Everybody is better than somebody else in the world... that's the American way!", then I feel sorry for you.

P.P.S. I don't think I am better than anyone else, either on this forum or anywhere else. Either my thinking is totally backward or I am in the wrong place.

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notalk wrote: P.S. If you truly believe "Everybody is better than somebody else in the world... that's the American way!", then I feel sorry for you.

P.P.S. I don't think I am better than anyone else, either on this forum or anywhere else. Either my thinking is totally backward or I am in the wrong place.
A) Although I don't subscribe to the belief that "everybody is better than somebody else in the world", I do believe that is the general concensus in this overprivelaged society... I'm not going to get in depth, but I truly think this is the result of a "Have all now" generation...

B) Your thinking is NOT backwards... you fit in well here... just know that we (Nicoclub members) take pride in our ownership privelages and wish nothing but goodwill and healthy comroderie on this board... we work very hard to set the bar to be the best car enthusiast forum on the web & comparing us to BMW forums will come with some scrutiny.

You're definately in good company, we're all friends here and I apologize if I feel that we were rejecting your opinion. We value your membership and hope that you take our well intended jabs as friendly sarcastic banter.

Welcome to Nicoclub BTW...

Look forward to talking to you in the future...

ZOZO- Sorry for the threadjack and more importantly, I'm sincerely sorry for your loss.

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Dave,

Thanks and no problem here with hi jaking threads. We all know I am one of the worst one. God knows how many threads I hijacked.

It has been few years now.

What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others.

I try to leave this way and not think about too much. Not always easy since my father died on Boxing day and it is hard to enjoy Xmas without the memory but try to at least not to show much to my loved ones so they can enjoy the holiday the way they should.

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notalk wrote:
I think you missed my point. There seems to be an unlimited number of posts of BMW forums where BMW owners view Infinitis like you all are viewing Hyundai. In other words, people here are talking about Hyundais just like BMW owners talk about Infinitis.
with all my respect you miss a point too.

Who Hyundai can blame all these unconfidences people have in Hyundai? Only themself. What pops in people's mind when Hyundai comes as a talking. Hyundai Pony and all these crapy cars they made 10 years ago or so. Yes they improved a lot and they are I believe better than the big 3 in North America. But those bad cars they made a decade ago hunt them. They will hunt them for years more.

Just name as many bad cars from Toyota, Nissan or Honda they made in the last 10 years. I don't think you can. That is the difference people see.

To be honest with you I don't really care too much what people say about Infiniti. If I end up in a conversation I put my thought in and that's all. But to note Infiniti/Nissan been there behind,beside and sometimes front of BMW for years. I bet you if BMW had a chance to take one of the competition out of the league, they would pick Nissan. They know Nissan is too close and stealing smart shopers from them.

Perhaps thats what needs to be done by Hyundai too. Put there products in high quality for years and years then people will buy into Hyundai step by step till that you'll see people put their experiences from the past into words. That's what you see/read here in this thread.

Don't forget takes months to get a costumer and takes seconds to loose one. Once you lost a costumer it might never come back or takes years to get that costumer back. Just ask my Old Telco brother how he feels about Ford. He owned one 50 years ago. Still not buying one since. Can't blame him. He lost his confidence in Ford. Would he buy one. I don't think so. If you ask him about Ford he would say POS. Can you blame him for that? Not really he speaks from experience.

I am sure we most are the same way. I walked out from stores and never went back due to costumer service or crapy products. If somebody would ask me about the store I would tell them not to go there because they are horrible. I hope this opens a little light for you to see where people comming from.

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first of all, the guy didnt slam head on into the pole. secondly, you cant tell if the side impact deployed. third this is a car manufactured for korea. who knows if they even have airbag regulations in korea.

imo the car held up pretty well, and the fact that the air bag appears it didnt deploy means it wasnt hit in that direction, it did deploy, or it malfunctioned. im betting its not the last option.

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LOL

So because it was not perfectly hit the center of the car it should not deploy the airbag? Hope you are kidding.

Here is what I think. It hit probably the bumper first from the left side maybe fender and bumper. Also if it had side airbags you woulsd be able to see itf that was deployed. But that just my thinking.

The car has to be equiped with air bag. The reason is because I just searched thru another website and found more pictures. If you zoom the picture you can see the SRS sign on the wheel. That indicates the car was eiped with airbag.

Check out for yourself if you don't believe me.



here is the website

http://carbl.com/2008/11/13/hy....html

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Um...how bout these apples....i got into an accident last jan where i hit a patch of black ice, slid off the road and hit a tree square on the license plate where my G had to be repaired....no airbags deployed even though i was doing about 25 mph when i hit the tree....

I'm still waiting for my official response from infiniti as why they didn't deploy. They did a full diagnostic check on the electrical system of my car and replaced both front airbags as a precaution and everything passed their tests....still no word on why they didn't deploy though....

Don't scoff at hyundai...they've have made wonderous leaps in the last several years regarding the quality, durability, and class of their cars. Till you actually go drive one yourself and see how you like it, you can't put them down for trying.

Yeah they may not be up to an equal standard yet...but give them some time. I mean it took Infiniti till the G37 to really start giving the 3 series a true push.....how many other models have tried prior?

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25 MPH crashes shouldn't throw the airbags. I believe they aren't supposed to go off til 30 MPH +. This is because under 30 MPH the airbags can do more damage than good.

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Obviously it was not as hard hit as this one since they repaired it. Also never seen pictures of your crash. It does not have to deploy all the time. It can make it worst. There would be another 3k damage easily if it deployed. It did the job. The hit wasn't hard enough to cause damage so it did not deploy. But that is not the case with this hyundai.

What kind of damage your G got? How much was the repair?

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Focusedintntions wrote:Yeah they may not be up to an equal standard yet...but give them some time. I mean it took Infiniti till the G37 to really start giving the 3 series a true push.....how many other models have tried prior?
This brings up the whole "What qualifies a car for luxury status?" debate.

In the 90s Infiniti was all about standard luxury features, minus the g20. 2000-2002 was a huge joke and got Infiniti near bankruptcy.

The cars since then have had a nice balance of luxury and sportiness with sportiness taking the front seat. I've only driven 2 Bimmers and I absolutely HATED both of them. They felt top heavy, torque-less, and the transmissions were very jerky. Granted one was a 2003 and the other a 2001, so there has definitely been time for improvement.

As for the Hyundais They've built garbage for sooooooo many years. I think I'm entitled to continue on with that opinion until they can prove themselves worth of a different opinion. You have to realize...I didn't just develop a baseless opinion of them, they produced garbage and that's where the basis for my opinion was. As such, they DESERVE the reputation that preceeds them.


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