How would you go about building a unibody from kaizo industries?

[kornmanz]

Anyone have any knowledge on the subject? I'd like to see what kind of money we're talking about to build an r33.

Since no one is selling any.

[Encryptshun]

I'm 99% sure that what Kaizo is doing is illegal. So take that into account.

[kornmanz]

godamnit.

I really want an r33 but I have no idea how to get one. Or an s15. But its like impossible.

I just want to know where to go if I get the money. Which may be soon.

[norman_069]

I am in the process of getting a Kaizo R34, The car is currently getting an engine put in it right now. The guy simply asked how much it cost to get one not if it were legal. I'm 99% sure what they are doing is illegal but its the only way i can see getting an R34. If you are curious about them let me know and i will email you a phone number of someone who will tell you everything you need to know. Not sure what a price for an R33 is but price for an R34 is around $50,000. Keep in mind you will need a drive train as well.

It comes down to if you whether you want the car our not, regardless if it is illegal. I'm tired of people just screaming that its illegal and saying people can't have one. You can have what ever you want as long as you know people and are prepared to deal with the consequences.

[kornmanz]

email [email protected]

[Gold Digger]

I am in the process of getting a Kaizo R34, The car is currently getting an engine put in it right now. The guy simply asked how much it cost to get one not if it were legal. I'm 99% sure what they are doing is illegal but its the only way i can see getting an R34. If you are curious about them let me know and i will email you a phone number of someone who will tell you everything you need to know. Not sure what a price for an R33 is but price for an R34 is around $50,000. Keep in mind you will need a drive train as well.

It comes down to if you whether you want the car our not, regardless if it is illegal. I'm tired of people just screaming that its illegal and saying people can't have one. You can have what ever you want as long as you know people and are prepared to deal with the consequences.

$50K is alot of coin to spend on a "consequence", isn't it? It's not that we don't want people to own these cars, we just want to make sure they are educated on what they are spending money on.

Just because you haven't been caught, doesn't mean you won't be caught. That's when your high dollar investment now looks like a bad idea.

That last sentence is my favorite...

[norman_069]

Funny ... That last sentence is my favorite too, and just because i can be caught doesn't mean i will be caught.

People who can drop 50 to 100 g's on a car probably have thought about it for more then a minute and are aware of what they are getting in to. Your normal high school kid wanting a skyline and not caring about legality issues isn't going to have the money to dump on the car. I could spend the next 15 years waiting for this car to be legal or if i have the money and am content with what could happen then i am going to go ahead and get one. Hell its safer than the stock market in my opinion.

I understand you are trying to just inform people but i am tired of people just always talking about the legality instead of answering questions. I guess what i am trying to say is i would hope at this point when someone asks a question about the Kaizo car itself then they are asking with the assumption that they have come to terms with what they might be getting themselves in to.

[kornmanz]

Yeah I realize what I would be getting into.

Hell my 240sx isnt street legal.

[Encryptshun]

kornmanz, I respect you a lot so that's the only reason I'm butting in here. Obviously, you will (and should) do what you want, regardless. It's your money.

What I don't want to see happen is this:

1) you get an inferior product due to the nature of construction

2) you pay Kaizo a deposit to fund the work starting and then they get busted and shut down for running a greymarket kit car import operation and you are out all the money you'd given them.

Have you talked to anyone who doesn't work for Kaizo yet has been driving one of their cars? I would strongly suggest getting some unbiased testimonials regarding quality and stability before you plunk down some dollars.

[kornmanz]

sounds like a good idea but I dont know where to find ppl who own a car from them.

[norman_069]

Just to let everyone know i don't work for kaizo but i am in the process of getting a car from them. I should have the car in about 3 to 4 weeks if everything with the engine build goes as planned. I will keep everyone up to date as far as registering the car and what the law around hear has to say about it. I live in Houston and i know quit a few law enforcement personnel any where from a traffic cop to detectives so i should be able to get a good feel on what they think about the car.

kornmanz i sent you an email.

[CloudAkuma]

kornmanz, I respect you a lot so that's the only reason I'm butting in here. Obviously, you will (and should) do what you want, regardless. It's your money.

What I don't want to see happen is this:

1) you get an inferior product due to the nature of construction

2) you pay Kaizo a deposit to fund the work starting and then they get busted and shut down for running a greymarket kit car import operation and you are out all the money you'd given them.

Have you talked to anyone who doesn't work for Kaizo yet has been driving one of their cars? I would strongly suggest getting some unbiased testimonials regarding quality and stability before you plunk down some dollars.

Get an inferior product due to the nature of construction??

As far as I've seen I have not heard of any talk or complaints about stability or quality problems from kaizos. Why would there be some?

Have You even talked to anyone who has been driving them?

[Rex]

Anyone have any knowledge on the subject? I'd like to see what kind of money we're talking about to build an r33.

Since no one is selling any.

http://www.kaizoindustries.com...mid=1

I suggest you do some research on NICO regarding "Getting a Skyline"

Here's a great post by Greg regarding Kaizo

[kornmanz]

^will do

thanks for the feedback guys

[CloudAkuma]

Yea.

Anyone talk to kaizo owners?

[Encryptshun]

Always amazing how threads like these spawn new users who somehow either know exactly "what's REALLY going on" in this industry or manage to add little to no value to the conversation.

Korn, like I said, you aren't new around this block -- I know you'll do your homework. The bottom line is that the DOT has stated that you cannot register a vehicle as a kit car if that vehicle was available as a mass-produced model in any country (regardless of whether that model was originally sold in the US market or not).

Caveat emptor. But you will drop a helluva lot of panties.

[AZhitman]

Always amazing how threads like these spawn new users who somehow either know exactly "what's REALLY going on" in this industry or manage to add little to no value to the conversation.

I agree.

Especially when I can see them in the Admin panel, I can see what threads they're reading, I can see what search terms they enter, and I can see their IP address and location.



Then again, they're probably used to dealing with other forum members who are a little less intelligent.

If you have $50-$60K to drop on a car, plus the cost of insuring (stated value) said car, I'm pretty sure you'll consult with an attorney or a professional auto broker or importer (like Dr. B did to get his '65 Silvia).

Korn, you got $60K laying around, there's some new GTR's starting to hit the used car market.

Not to be an a$$, but I'm pretty sure you're not dropping that kind of jack on a ride.

[raremotive]

Especially when I can see them in the Admin panel, I can see what threads they're reading, I can see what search terms they enter, and I can see their IP address and location.

So what my admin panel say? Stay way at all costs?

[norman_069]

Ive been on this forum for over 3 years but i have less then 10 post. According to you guys that means i know absolutely nothing about any of this. Weird! I find it funny how y'all compare knowledge with how long someone sits in from to a computer all day and types about things they might or might not know. Forums have a lot of good information but for some reason people like to rub the fact in some ones face that they are new. Yes new to the forum but not new to life. I think people on here should keep their personal opinion to themselves and just answer the questions people ask. I'm not trying to start any crap and i do agree people need to be on the look out for scams but it seems like the people who don't have the money for an r34 are quick to hate on others and tell them it impossible. Nothings impossible and I'm pretty sure that purchasing an r34 illegally isn't the first time someone has broken the law.

Encryptshun you said that "The bottom line is that the DOT has stated that you cannot register a vehicle as a kit car if that vehicle was available as a mass-produced model in any country (regardless of whether that model was originally sold in the US market or not)."

That may be true but the bottom line is people are registering r34's as kit cars and getting away with it. Just because it written somewhere on a piece of paper doesn't mean its impossible.

[AZhitman]

You're missing the point.

Our role here is to educate. NOT to play footsie with people, NOT to pander to fanboi dreams, NOT to promote some wannabe importer's business, and NOT to ignore the cold hard facts.

Purchasing the car isn't the issue. Building the car isn't the issue. Hell, DRIVING it isn't the issue.

But as we've said, over, and over, and over, and over again... Go try to register it. Go try and insure it. Get in an accident and try to make a claim. Better yet, get in an accident and try to DEFEND yourself against a lawsuit.

I think I've mentioned this as well - I can buy one. Hell, it's a writeoff for me. Guess what? Not interested in the stress.

For all that jibber-jabber, the truth is this: There have been very FEW (if ANY) R33 / R34's registered as a "kit car" in the 50 contiguous States in the past several years. VERY few.

And a "little birdie" tells me those "unibodies" (LOL) aren't selling so well. Laughable.

[CloudAkuma]

Always amazing how threads like these spawn new users who somehow either know exactly "what's REALLY going on" in this industry or manage to add little to no value to the conversation.

Caveat emptor. But you will drop a helluva lot of panties.

uhhh.. Yea.

DID YOU speak to any kaizo owners or not?

By YOUR own suggestion btw..

[AZhitman]

uhhh.. Yea.

DID YOU speak to any kaizo owners or not?

By YOUR own suggestion btw..

LOL - They're pretty few and far-between... Like I said above, biz is not going well for them.

If you had your ear to the rail (as I do), you'd know that there's a lot of "official" attention being paid to these loopholes and exceptions.

Not that I agree with it, but rules is rules.

p.s. There's no NEED to talk to any of the handful of people who have bought one, about "construction" or "build quality" issues, because they don't BUILD anything. It's a gutted Nissan. Fanboi ignorance at its worst.

[raremotive]

Fanboi ignorance at its worst.

[CloudAkuma]

p.s. There's no NEED to talk to any of the handful of people who have bought one, about "construction" or "build quality" issues, because they don't BUILD anything.

That was my assumption. But they do do things to modify the body like strengthen the A pillar, stuff with the doors, etc., and so i was wondering how that affected things once he made the implications.

[themadscientist]

I think I may be one of the few here who has crashed a Skyline. They are as tough as any unibody, crush zones work as designed. The DOT does not have the same confidence.

These cars are illegal, period. No gymnastic nomenclature is going to change that. You can call it a ham sandwich, it's still a Nissan Skyline.

[DJ Raijin]

I read in Super Street that that last F&F movie's R34 was from Kaizo Industries and that Paul Walker now owns that car.

Anyone got his phone number or email? We'll ask him how the build quality is and how hard it was to register

[themadscientist]

Paul says you creep him out, stop calling his house.

[AZhitman]

I wanna meet up with Paul on a road course.

I'll drive my G, he can bring his Skyrine.

[CloudAkuma]

I wanna meet up with Paul on a road course.

I'll drive my G, he can bring his Skyrine.

no offense but i think his skyline would win..

[themadscientist]

Not with Greg's wingman backing him up with the shock gun, he'll hit another parking meter.