How ready would you be to swap in a VQ if more info was public, and cheap kits.

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Sweet...


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IRAX please update me im just waiting for pictures and a price so i can order i may just run mine stand alone tho to save some trouble unless i find a wiring genius soon

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email sent to dan.

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dan14sweeney wrote:no problem i went with the rwd vq only because i bought it from a guy local who got rear ended...i bought the entire drivetrain from the engine to the differential for $2000...but i will let you know which way will be easier i just want to get it in
Keep in mind I haven't done any research on the matter so this might be a noob question. Is it possible to keep the stock driveshaft/differential with the VQ35 swap? It would be a shame for people to lose their one piece driveshaft and S15 HLSD for example.

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simmode1 wrote:
I have heard, and this is a big issue for me, that using a standalone management system will disable the motor's variable valve timing system, robbing both power and gas mileage. Almost makes the swap pointless.

I heard that if you send a '96 Maxima ecu to JWT, they will reflash it so that your vq swap retains full functionality. This is the only way to go IMO.

Now, I could be wrong about this, but this is what I mean about more info needing to be more readily available...
That is also what would scare me away from the swap. The complex tuning of the ecm. vq's also have an abs based speed sensor and use a bcm. its a complicated swap to do it right. If you can do it cheap, you probably skipped something. haha

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you will need a new drive shaft as with majority of swaps anyways.

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there is alota stuff that i think your forgetting like wouldnt the suspension have to be changed to handle the heavier engine and the driveshaft and many other goodies taht would run up the bill while on a sr (which i dont like) and the ca swap the chassis is already set up for the engine. there arent really many things that you need to buy to make the swap work

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squbafreak15 wrote:there is alota stuff that i think your forgetting like wouldnt the suspension have to be changed to handle the heavier engine and the driveshaft and many other goodies taht would run up the bill while on a sr (which i dont like) and the ca swap the chassis is already set up for the engine. there arent really many things that you need to buy to make the swap work
If you're swapping any higher HP motor into an 11-20 year old car and planning on leaving the suspension stock, then you're a retard and shouldn't even be attempting this...

Plus, The VQ is documented to weigh the roughly same as the heavya$$ KA...


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Aww you beat me to it.

I guess you could say if you are doing this swap you are not likely going to use a stock shock/strut combo.

I am not really seeing a problem here.

Aren't most nissan motor sets about 330lbs?

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no the vg and rb series are quiet a bit heavier.. ca and sr lighter but if you set up your suspension right with any motor swap there should be no problem...I will be running gr+ coilovers and over haul the entire suspension...my base model 240 has lsd stock and the only thing that will change is my ring&pinion that is coming out of the 350z's diff. speedo will be run from my cars abs using a dakota digital signal box...I also plan on running a stand alone a stand alone with a lightly modded NA vq tuning will not be that big of an issue... glad to see more people from DFW...Hope fully I will be ordering the mounts and the AEM at the end of this month...and yes I will be documenting the swap and posting it on here just have to sell my frontier to fund this.

PS. Anyone know of a complete gasket, bearing set for the vq?

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im ready to purchase as soon as i can get some picks in of fitment and such. i have a rwd complete motor set transmission and harness. was in the works of creating my own swap kit but after seeing the quality of your fwd kit im sold. as soon as you hit me up with a price ill send the money. btw im a nissan tech well tied into the performance crowd so word will get around once kit is installed. i appreciate your tire and dedication. keep up the good work.

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I really appreciate the enthusiasm but right now there is now RWD kit from me, only fwd kits.

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irax wrote:I really appreciate the enthusiasm but right now there is now RWD kit from me, only fwd kits.
actually... interesting enough I might have a RWD block pretty soon so RWD kits might actually be on their way!

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woo hoo keep us posted

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yeah its funny, right after i posted that first comment i just got a pm from a buddy that is willing to loan me his block! funny s***!

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Please please PLEASEEEEEEEE get this done in the next couple months. I would love to swap this motor in, instead of doing an ls1 swap. I need that 6 cylinder purrr.

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I actually have had KA-T on my mind for a long time. I think once more information on this comes up I might change my mind. Big thing for me though ti having it legal, I seem to be seeing mixed answers on this. With KA-T I can switch back to stock form in a day easy, pass smog the next, then switch back the day after that. If I have to swap the whole engine....f*** that. If it is legal and I can leave everything how it is, I think I'm in. Plus I wanna pull my motor to paint my engine bay, lol.

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Really looking into VQs. Keep up the good work.

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i work for nissan and a buddy of mine is doing a vq in a ser sentra. he already has pretty much everything he needs except the mount kit. pm me price and how soon can we get this. please its the only things holding back this swap. thanks.

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i dont know how to PM on NICO... does it even have a pm system?

and I am sorry but we are not doing FWD engine into FWD cars we are doing FWD vq engine into RWD 240sx only and soon a RWD vq into RWD 240sx too.

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Mounts are not an issue on VQ. They are very easy to fab. The issue is the steering rod not clearing the exhaust and the starter clearing the motor mounts.

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Any news on the rwd kit?

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irax wrote:it is a federal illegal motor
source?

so you're saying that adding a turbo to an SR20DE (which was sold here stock btw,) is against FEDERAL law, which would make supercharger kits for any motor sold here illegal also. so dealerships that install the TRD and NISMO superchargers are committing federal crimes?

there is no motor that is illegal by FEDERAL law. i can install a turbine from an M1A1 Abrams in my 240sx if i wanted to, i don't have to deal with the kookyfornia smog nazis, or the retard carpet-baggers in the northeast states that have "emissions" testing.

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EviL inside wrote:
source?

so you're saying that adding a turbo to an SR20DE (which was sold here stock btw,) is against FEDERAL law, which would make supercharger kits for any motor sold here illegal also. so dealerships that install the TRD and NISMO superchargers are committing federal crimes?

there is no motor that is illegal by FEDERAL law. i can install a turbine from an M1A1 Abrams in my 240sx if i wanted to, i don't have to deal with the kookyfornia smog nazis, or the retard carpet-baggers in the northeast states that have "emissions" testing.
lololol

seriously

lololol

ill give a good reply to this after work

lolol

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EviL inside wrote:
source?

so you're saying that adding a turbo to an SR20DE (which was sold here stock btw,) is against FEDERAL law, which would make supercharger kits for any motor sold here illegal also. so dealerships that install the TRD and NISMO superchargers are committing federal crimes?

there is no motor that is illegal by FEDERAL law. i can install a turbine from an M1A1 Abrams in my 240sx if i wanted to, i don't have to deal with the kookyfornia smog nazis, or the retard carpet-baggers in the northeast states that have "emissions" testing.
It is against federal law to install a motor into a road going car that was not sold here. In other words having an sr20det from a silvia is illegal. Having an SR20det from a blue bird is illegal. Having a ZC crx motor is illegal. Look this stuff up. Not all power adders are illegal for road use. Though a lot of it is already labeled as "For Race Use Only". If it is a dealership addon part then chances are it is legal.

you can find some of the info here

http://www.epa.gov/compliance/...h.pdf

you can find more info at

http://www.epa.gov

if you have a question about federal emissions laws [email protected]

It is required by federal law that if your vehicle has a catalytic converter that it needs to stay there and stay in operating condition. Just because your state/city/farm doesn't test for emissions it doesn't mean you can do anything you want.

Is it legal to convert an SR20DE from a sentra to rwd? that is kind of a gray area that I still don't understand. From what I understand is that kind of stuff is dependant from state to state because they may have different emissions laws and legality of exhaust manifolds n such. In california though a FWD sr20de is not legal as RWD. A FWD VQ30DE-k as RWD may not be legal. FWD VQ35DE as RWD is legal.

swapping a 99 LS1 with all emissions into your older than 99 rwd anything.. yes that is legal. Swapping an 79 LT1 engine into your 80 and newer rwd anything is NOT legal.
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irax wrote:Is it legal to convert an SR20DE from a sentra to rwd? that is kind of a gray area that I still don't understand.
Why bother trying to understand it? It's a stupid idea! Seriously! Who is going to go thru the trouble of converting a FWD N/A SR20 to an FR platform and then add turbo kit? Are there any legal turbo kits for that motor anyways?! Who cares! So off topic... It's like comparing apples to oranges alongside the VQ swap.

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lol good point

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I would love to swap in a VQ... that was my first choice for a swap. But, my hesitation is the limited info on the swap. Ive seen it in a Kouki and it was hella clean. So yea, if this is affordable and you can make it work... be the pioneer and all, Im all for it.

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I know the SR engine isn't illegal (it's in several USDM cars), and turboing an engine is very rarely illegal, so where's the illegality here? There's no difference (smog-wise) between an FWD and a RWD engine, so I'm struggling to see the reasoning that the SR20DET should be illegal. >_>

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I would have done the vq instead of my RB if there was lots of info but I got overexcited at the asumo-ness. Would have had more bang for the buck.


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