How many people are actually driftng with R26dett?racing

[jrsink]

Just like the topic title says..."How many people have RB26dett powerd cars, and are drifting with them". i was at an event this weekend and it was straight SR's. I know RB is badass for dragrcing, hence the name "race bread", but an RB26...too front heavy? is the weight distribution thrown off?

[Joe]

RB does not mean race bread, even tho the 26's are one of the best road racing engines, thats a myth. the weight distribution change isnt as bad as you would expect, its a very small margin of change and nothing that cant be compensated for very easily by a driver.

[Slo_240sx]

People like using Sr's because of:1 - weight, keeps the car more balanced. Yeah people like to argue this one but you can adjust your driving on a differently balanced car if you are good enough.2 - Sr's power is perfect for drifting. Whos needs more than 300 HP to drift? If you wnt more power add a turbo and you are good to go on an SR. Yeah Rb makes that stock but look at the diffence in cost. 3 - Mentioned before, Cost. Drifting is an expensive sport. So you try to make decent power with not too much money. Sr's are pefect.4 - Everyone else and their brother has an sr's. They have more of an aftermarket so if they break something it can br replaced easier than an RB motor.I can keep going but those are the main reasons.-Alex

[Joe]

1) MYTH! it upsets the overall balance like 5%, 95% of drivers will never even notice the change!

2) if nobody needs more than 300hp why do most top tier drifting cars have 400-450whp.

3 and 4 i somewhat agree with. RBs arent cheap, most people use them for a hey look at me engine, rather than a performance engine. ive been doing grip and drift events on mine for some time. i love it.

Alex please resize your signature, its flipping huge.

[biglipzit]

One main factor is that the sr produces more torque in the lower rpm range than the rb and somehow drivers use this to easier drift the car i guess for easier loss of traction. Also the sr sits further back in the engine bay which helps with the centre of gravity and weight distribution.

[gawdzilla]

i think its mostly a cost issue. drifters spend money on tires/suspension/body repair. like others said, the SR and KA-T are sufficient (3-400 whp) for drifting, and cost less. RB is more for higher horse applications, or the "uniqueness" factor.

i cant really see the SR producing more tq at lower rpms than the RB w/ similar power output. if anything it would be the opposite. Traction can be easilly lost for drifting as theres more weight in the front w/ the RB. less weight on the rear wheels = easier to lose grip.

[Joe]

One main factor is that the sr produces more torque in the lower rpm range than the rb and somehow drivers use this to easier drift the car i guess for easier loss of traction. Also the sr sits further back in the engine bay which helps with the centre of gravity and weight distribution.

more torque?! are you high? displacment = torque, RB 's have more displacment than a SR (except the bastard RB20).

and show me HARD NUMBERS how it screws up weight distribution, im getting real sick of arguing this same **** day after day. it DOES NOT MESS UP YOUR WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION.

[gawdzilla]

and show me HARD NUMBERS how it screws up weight distribution, im getting real sick of arguing this same **** day after day. it DOES NOT MESS UP YOUR WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION.

not a week passes w/o the "weight distribution is KILLED by going RB". but i still think its 2nd to the "im looking into getting an RB2XDET(T) motor, where to buy/get swap instructions" post

not flaming this particular thread, just posting an observation about the RB forum

[Joe]

seriously, we need a full time moderator. its getting really bad.

[krayton]

the extra weight kills the car. makes drifting worthless. you want your proof? heres 2 examples of s14s with RBs "drifting"

[krayton]

and another!

...sorry joe, had too

[Joe]

yea at least post a pic of me when i look like i know what im doing along with when you make fun of me hahaha. dont make me dig pictures up from when you first started.

look at that no-drift-action

i should have swapped a SR

[krayton]

holy body roll batman!!!!

looks like i had the SAME EXACT body roll back in the day!

hmmmm, wonder why.....

[Joe]

LOL i could never imagine

i bet Blair had the same body roll when he started also? hahaha

stupid hand me down springs, cant wait to get a real suspension.

[Nameless EJ6]

I just took the hugest ****!! You guys have no idea!!

Kamin, your car rocks.

jrsink: Do the swap, go drifting, come back.. and tell us what the FUK you think.

Stop making these ghey threads about RB26's.

[JonPowell]

I know RB is badass for dragrcing, hence the name "race bread"

I always like to have little race BREAD on my sandwiches before I go out driving...gives me the extra energy to really throw my car sideways. So much more than regular white bread or wheat bread.

RB=Race BreadSR=Street RacerKA=Kills AllCA=Can't AccelerateGA=God AwfulVH=Very HeavyVG=Very GoodVQ=Very QuietVK=Volleyball KickerFJ=**** Jon

THE LETTERS DONT MEAN ****! JUST SOMETHING THE ENGINEERS THREW TOGETHER TO DIFFERENTIATE THE MOTORS!

LS1, LT1 Dont mean anything either!

[Nameless EJ6]

Well said Jonathan. Is that your name? Jonathan?

That's an awesome name.

In fact, my step fathers name is Jon.

Actually, also in fact, I do enjoy race bread myself! I carry a loaf in my trunk for those rare occasions. You know.. when you're kicking it in the parking lot of your local starbucks and some guy wants to have a showdown of sandwich proportions. I bust out the Race Bread. Wins every time.

And now, I have a story to tell. Because this thread has become so inspiring, I will set forth my beautiful hiperbole of sarcastic bullsh!t.

This one time, I was checking out my race bread and some guy pulls up in his 240 claiming to have an SR. You know, Sourdough Rye. That is the ultra hybrid bread, as we've all know. It is in NO WAY PLAYED OUT. It really didn't faze me, because the Race Bread is known to pull it's own weight. Race Bread speaks for itself. It's the Donkey Kong of Nismo. Nismo is the manufacturer of our breads, but we all know that? Right?

So anywhoo. I proceeded to whip out my loaf. The guy immediately put his SR back into his bag and went home. I knew the outcome before we even started actually. But ya know, I like to flaunt my RB. Aint nothin' better.

I set an example to onlookers that day. From that day forward, all of the witnesses have decided on RB's as their choice. But little did they know, the SR had enough flavor for them already. They were all blinded by the glory of my ONE loaf of RB.

I hope I've made a point in there. And I hope this thread goes to hell in a handbasket.

[Slo_240sx]

LoL time to end the thread its just getting to goofy. I'll fix my sig later I just woke up. I'll have the scambled eggs and race Bread to go please. -Alex

[rb250sx]

I like my Race Bread with PB Blaster and Jelly!
Modified by rb250sx at 2:54 PM 5/4/2005

[Scott Buwalda]

I personally like cinamon swirl race bread.

Scott

[JonPowell]

I now love this thread!

Jonathan is my name...Jonathan Breckenridge Powell.....no joke...thats my real name.....Can you believe my parents?

Such a cruel joke.

[rb250sx]

seeing this thread is completely off topic now(not that it ever had a topic). Mr. Jonathan Breckenridge Powell, I moved back up to Western NY a little while back and would love to see your car. Do you still have the 240 or just the Z? Albany is about 3 hrs from me (im in buffalo) Maybe some weekend i could drive my car down that way.

[gawdzilla]

jumping in before the lockdown hahahaha

i vote for the sticky though.... everything is here!

1) what RB REALLY stands for (along with all of nissan's other engine codes). Go Sourdough Rye!2) how to do all RB swaps3) why you can't drift in RB powered 240s, followed by factual pics4) JP's full name!

[Joe]

jumping in before the lockdown hahahaha

i vote for the sticky though.... everything is here!

1) what RB REALLY stands for (along with all of nissan's other engine codes). Go Sourdough Rye!2) how to do all RB swaps3) why you can't drift in RB powered 240s, followed by factual pics4) JP's full name!

i agree this should get stickied.

[JonPowell]

I sold my 240SX with the RB25, I have now a 1977 280Z that I am gonna start prepping for my wife to learn drifting....a 1987 300ZX GS that I am gonna start prepping for a MAJOR motor swap(Top Secret, don't ask!) and my wife also has a 2001 Altima...If you wanna see any of these, not really impressive right now I know, get ahold of me on AIM or email and we can set something up.

I have a HUGE install I am doing for one of my customers if you wanna see it you can also come by & check that out. Pics are on my Yahoo group if you wanna look there.

One of the members on my Yahoo group, xctnewmanx, has an RB26 S13 RHD out near you that is getting built to the teeth. try getting ahold of him if you wanna see something closer to ya.

[BoostFab]

did you know jonathan means in chineese, says "here" ahahahaha

[Bluefire]

more torque?! are you high? displacment = torque, RB 's have more displacment than a SR (except the bastard RB20).

and show me HARD NUMBERS how it screws up weight distribution, im getting real sick of arguing this same **** day after day. it DOES NOT MESS UP YOUR WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION.

Here's your hard evidence

zerothread?id=86857

FACT: IT DOES MESS UP YOUR WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION. But that doesn't necessarily mean that you can't compensate for it and have an RB 240 handle great! Keep in mind weight distribution is not everything. But the bottom line is, when looking at front to rear weight distribution, the sr is much better suited!!

-Bluefire

[Joe]

Here's your hard evidence

zerothread?id=86857

FACT: IT DOES MESS UP YOUR WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION. But that doesn't necessarily mean that you can't compensate for it and have an RB 240 handle great! Keep in mind weight distribution is not everything. But the bottom line is, when looking at front to rear weight distribution, the sr is much better suited!!

-Bluefire

it CHANGED IT yes but its still a more balanced car than 90% of the FR cars out there. if you really think a 2% change in weight "messes up" your weight distribution i feel bad for you. if you cant compensate for a 2% change in weight balance you shouldnt be doing ANY form of high performance driving. 99% of drivers will never even NOTICE a 2% change. thats the difference between a full and empty tank of gas.

a stock 240 weighs in at around 52-48 and your at 54-46?

wow look at that huge change, now the car is worthless because all of the weight is over the front wheels.

[Slo_240sx]

What do you guys want for lunch? I might stop by ARBY's and get some arby melts with Race Bread. Or I can goto mcdonalds and get Cinnamon Apple pies.

I need FRIESSSS! Biggie Size! and hey, I'll need them by tonight. Youre lucky that double shot of barbecue sauce didn't blow seams on the nugget box. I live my life by a quarter pounder at a time. For those 500 calories I'm free. Hey its like this - If you win you get my happy meal. If I win then I get your BURGER and the TOY. To some people thats more important.

[BoostFab]

often times those that b1tch about the weight distribution issue on the rb+240sx swap are the ones that never own nor driven one. ironic!!